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[Walker White]

ReveurIngenu wrote...

I don't understand the hostility people are showing to the TC.

The forums were spammed by this topic a while back. The issue is that features cost time and money and we would rather BioWare spend that time and money on something other than 3D.  3D is not just an automatic "flip a switch" feature.  It is very expensive as it slows down the rendering process, and has to be treated very, very carefully.

In addition, ME is a third person perspective.  I have seen a lot of 3D game demos, and I just don't get the advantage in third person.  In first person, I understand it; you get distance and a sense of body that you do not get in 2D first person.  But in third person, I just get a headache.

[YipLee]

I just find it hard to believe that Bioware isn't with the times yet.     When the unreal engine 3 flat out supports stereoscopic 3d and you don't implement it that's just being mean and rude to your customer base that uses 3D.

For those of you who don't understand 3D tech, it doesn't effect you flat 2d people at all.

Unreal Engine 3 flat out supports stereoscopic 3D, there is no reason not to flip the switch for ME3.

[Bogsnot1]

YipLee wrote...

I just find it hard to believe that Bioware isn't with the times yet.     When the unreal engine 3 flat out supports stereoscopic 3d and you don't implement it that's just being mean and rude to your customer base that uses 3D.

For those of you who don't understand 3D tech, it doesn't effect you flat 2d people at all.

Unreal Engine 3 flat out supports stereoscopic 3D, there is no reason not to flip the switch for ME3.

Tell you what. You do all the coding, rendering, and fine tuning of the engine so framerate isnt affected, and theyll implement it for you.
Until then, STFU and GTFO.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Sweet, it's this guy again. It's like a magical journey through time!

Still having trouble selling those boxes of 3D glasses you have stockpiled?

[Gatt9]

YipLee wrote...

I just find it hard to believe that Bioware isn't with the times yet.     When the unreal engine 3 flat out supports stereoscopic 3d and you don't implement it that's just being mean and rude to your customer base that uses 3D.

For those of you who don't understand 3D tech, it doesn't effect you flat 2d people at all.

Unreal Engine 3 flat out supports stereoscopic 3D, there is no reason not to flip the switch for ME3.

It is more labor and rendering time,  for relatively low payback,  as stereoscopic 3d isn't widely used.

Personally,  I look forward to the day when TV's come with whatever the 3ds is using.

[Kusy]

I don't see why people mind it. I wouldn't play it because I don't even have a TV like that but it is kind of cool... another thing is that I would mind if adding that feature would hinder development of other content as it is not exacly neaded.

[DxWill10]

Too much resources required that are better spent somewhere else.

[DTKT]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

I don't see why people mind it. I wouldn't play it because I don't even have a TV like that but it is kind of cool... another thing is that I would mind if adding that feature would hinder development of other content as it is not exacly neaded.

It's a strange situation. On one hand, you are spending time developping a feature that will be enjoyed by a small audience of both the console and PC audience. 

Yet, it's a good bullet point on the box. So you spend little ressources and time because you know it's a feature that actually very little reach. You end up with a broken 3D, not an enjoyable experience or a diminished performance. What was the point of that feature again?

If I had to make a choice, I would take the time invested in 3D and allocate it somewhere else.

[AL JA]

The reason the replies seem a little hostile is this guy makes this topic routinely, one time he made a topic discussing heat sinks that generated 10 pages of replies, then changed the topic title to 'reply here if you want 3d in mass effect 3'. He has a strange fixation with the gimmick.

[massive_effect]

ReveurIngenu wrote...

I don't understand the hostility people are showing to the TC. I'm not sure about PC games, but PS3 games available in 3D are also playable in 2D, so I don't get why people are acting as if ME3 being available in 3D would force everyone to play it in 3D. You don't want to play it in 3D? That's not a reason to want to deprive those who have the equipment and the desire to play in 3D of the possibility of doing so.

I personally would really like for 3D to be available on the PS3 version. I recently bought myself a 3D-TV but haven't had anything interesting to use the 3D on. None of the current PS3 games available in 3D (with the exception of maybe WipeoutHD, but I haven't had a chance to buy it yet) interest me. And I'm not really into Uncharted or shooters. As for movies, none of the movies available in 3D interest me or I have already seen them in 3D in theaters.

So, I really need 3D material! In the topic about everything we know about ME3, it says that there's a possibility of it having 3D and I share the TC's desire to know if the game will indeed include it or not. If it doesn't, it's ok, but I'd be happy if it were and it'd be an extra selling argument.

We haven't mastered frame rate issues for regular HD resolutions. If ME3 was 3D, it would cut the frate rates in half.
I want 120 FPS in 2D before I would consider it for 3D.

[Flayling]

DxWill10 wrote...

Too much resources required that are better spent somewhere else.

lol, UNREAL ENGINE 3 supports stereoscopic 3D... What don't you understand?

Many of you speak out of ignorance.. Every bioware game I played in Stereoscopic 3D was played with 40-60 FPS no problems. Yes it does demand more GPU power but as long as you're computer isn't ancient you'll be fine.

As long as you have an 8800gt minimum you're good to go with DAO, ME1 & ME2 ...

Also unreal engine 3 supports stereoscopic 3D already. Bioware would just have to flip the switch. There is no reason not to implement it.

Modifié par Flayling, 03 mai 2011 - 05:27 .

[marshalleck]

Oh, he logged in his other account to make it look like more than one person cares about 3d.

[lawp79]

Personaly I would rather not sit there looking like Yoko Ono/Roy Orbison while I am playing a game. I would rather they spent the time and money elsewhere.

[Kusy]

Point is, if he's right and it's just a setting you switch on or off in the UDK you all sound like raving loonies insulting him.

[Skilled Seeker]

I will repeat, all PC games can be played in 3D whether the developer supports it or not! If you game on console then sucks to be you. Pay more, get more.

[ScepticMatt]

Seeker: Yep.
I hope that ME3 achieves a '3D Vision Excellent' rating from NVIDIA.
Because ME2's 3D was pretty bad, I think.

http://www.nvidia.co...n-3d-games.html

Modifié par ScepticMatt, 03 mai 2011 - 11:51 .

[Skilled Seeker]

I wouldn't trust those ratings. Shogun 2 is apparently not recommended but it looks excellent in 3D. Also ME1 got an excellent and ME2 a fair so neither are bad.

[Katamariguy]

Mostly for me 3d makes things excessively blurry.

[Fredvdp]

YipLee wrote...

I just find it hard to believe that Bioware isn't with the times yet.

BioWare is developing the game for consoles. Stereoscopic 3D cuts framerates in half and Mass Effect 2's framerate wasn't impressive to begin with (30fps in combat, 20fps in cinematics at 720p). The PC version could get 3D support but since the ME2 devs already ignored the strengths of the PC platform (bad textures, no shortcuts, bad user interface) I would hope that 3D isn't high on their priority list for the PC port of ME3.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 03 mai 2011 - 12:37 .

[The Harmonizer]

WHy the hate? obviously 3D is something you can turn on/off so why spam posts with no 3D please...that's just pure trolling.

Would like to have an option for 3D in cinemtatics only, now that would be sweet

[Jesse Houston]

YipLee wrote...
It's the year 2011 bioware, just a heads up.

NO WAI?!?!