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[Kusy]

About the "high planet radiation".
I'm afraid that Mass Effect 2 canceled all cool and interesting pseudo scientific explanations to anything. Now the only explanation for it is "BEACUASE IT LOOKS ICONIC"

[AdmiralCheez]

Nashiktal wrote...

Oddly enough, Quarians actually don't have remarkable hips, its just their waist is very thin which enhances the other parts of their body.

That rule applies to Garrus, too.

[SaY4cT]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

Oddly enough, Quarians actually don't have remarkable hips, its just their waist is very thin which enhances the other parts of their body.

That rule applies to Garrus, too.

Woah:Oobviously some kind of unmentioned Turian butt work-out going on there 

[AdmiralCheez]

AwesomeName wrote...

I fail to see any inconsistency   What did Garrus say exactly? "I'd be complimenting you on your fringe"  Is that about right?  I don't remember him actually describing what a female fringe looks like.  Did he?

He didn't, but the comment seemed to imply that they'd have enough fringe for the gentlemen to compliment on.  Add to that the need for radiation protection and the fact that Dark Horse's art (and the stories they illustrate, BTW) has been known to fall short of expectations quite frequently, and you can understand the rage.

It doesn't break the lore, per se, but it's way off the mark from what BW seemed to be implying.

[Kusy]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
That rule applies to Garrus, too.

Because both races seem to share quite few features. That is another reason why female Turians are expected to have diffrent look from male (except for the head). And I support that expectations.

Come on, let's face it. The whole Asari race was made so it looks atractive to guys, basicaly they are all hot chicks with blue skin, Quarians are made to look atractive to latex fetishists, they have boobs and dem hips. Let's stop pretending that females in this game were made to make sense from the lore point of view, they were made to look atractive, ugly females is not what I expect from Turians or from Mass Effect alltogether. I do expect Salarian females to be something like a broodmother... or Alien Queen (and by Alien I mean Xenomorph) because salarians were desinged for the lolz... but Turians being bald dudes? Nope.

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 03 mai 2011 - 01:29 .

[Nashiktal]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...
That rule applies to Garrus, too.

Because both races seem to share quite few features. That is another reason why female Turians are expected to have diffrent look from male (except for the head). And I support that expectations.

Come on, let's face it. The whole Asari race was made so it looks atractive to guys, basicaly they are all hot chicks with blue skin, Quarians are made to look atractive to latex fetishists, they have boobs and dem hips. Let's stop pretending that females in this game were made to make sense from the lore point of view, they were made to look atractive, ugly females is not what I expect from Turians. I do expect Salarian females to be something like a broodmother... or Alien Queen (and by Alien I mean Xenomorph)... but Turians being bald dudes? Nope.

Actually Quarians being attractive was an accident. If I remember correctly, devs didn't make Tali a love interest in ME because they didn't think anyone would date a girl with "chicken feet."

[AresXX7]

I agree with Cheez on this, BW should include female Turians in ME3.

I also agree there is no need to 'Barbie doll' them in anyway as well.

There is one note of concern I have, I remember once hearing someone (from BW) say something along the lines of 'who's to say we haven't already seen a female Turian & just didn't notice it?' a while back (can't remember where though). Which, I sincerely hope, isn't some lazy dev's excuse not to include them.



On a side-note, the only differentiating feature I've read so far, is from the Wiki:

"Males and females do not differ greatly in physical appearance. Female turians lack the crest of horns found in the males of the race."
Not too sure what the crest of horns means exactly. 

[Pwener2313]

AriesXX7 wrote...

I agree with Cheez on this, BW should include female Turians in ME3.

*SPOILER*

Garrus has a "special" mission, regardless if he died or not, in Palaven. I assume it's about his sister and sick mother, so there alone is two.

[AdmiralCheez]

Pwener2313 wrote...

*SPOILER*

Garrus has a "special" mission, regardless if he died or not, in Palaven. I assume it's about his sister and sick mother, so there alone is two.

SOURCE DAT.  CONFIRMATION REQUIRED.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 03 mai 2011 - 01:38 .

[CulturalGeekGirl]

AwesomeName wrote...
Pretty much - but more because consistency is cool.  Why do you think it's inconsistent?

Here's the issue I have... I actually discarded a post I had written about this earlier, when I thought we might have finally reached a consensus, hehe, silly me, this is the internet!

As a developer with a property, you have two choices when you license it: 
1. Control the HECK out of that license. The artist doesn't draw line one without your approval.
2. Lightly control that license, hoping that the resulting fiction will get more right than it does wrong.

Both ways are fine, though the former is far more expensive and limiting. I think it's likely that Bioware did the latter, probably for cost reasons.

Now here's where I have a problem: I don't like the idea that the original game devs are bound to follow any new piece of lore introduced in a supplementary text. I don't care what it is: comic, tie-in-novel, advertising campaign, whatever. In an IP where all the lore is originally created by the devs (in contrast to a licensed IP), the devs should have the final say.

I've seen too many devs shake their heads at some inconsistent piece of supplementary fiction. The only thing that calms their aching hearts is the fact that they usually don't have to change their creation to suit it. I trust Bioware devs, and want them to have the freedom to do what they think is best, even if it conflicts with some piece of media they did not create.

I don't object to consistency. But consistency with outside media merely for the sake of consistency doesn't seem fair to the devs. While I'd like to see a design that pleases everyone, ultimately I'd prefer to allow the original devs freedom, rather than have them bound by designs created by someone not on the primary team. If they decide that perfectly echoing the Dark Horse designs is the best design, more power to them. But I think the ultimate decision should lie with the creators.

(That's how it works in other licensed IPs, when the situation is reversed. If I make a Spider-man game where Spider-man is all of a sudden a six-foot-tall Russian Acrobat, that doesn't mean Peter Parker has to start calling everyone Comrade in the comic books. Also, it means that I will probably be fired.)

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 03 mai 2011 - 01:40 .

[Someone With Mass]

AriesXX7 wrote...
"Males and females do not differ greatly in physical appearance. Female turians lack the crest of horns found in the males of the race."
Not too sure what the crest of horns means exactly. 

I guess it means the lack of fringes or horns or whatever you want to call them on their heads.

[Epic777]

Nashiktal wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...
That rule applies to Garrus, too.

Because both races seem to share quite few features. That is another reason why female Turians are expected to have diffrent look from male (except for the head). And I support that expectations.

Come on, let's face it. The whole Asari race was made so it looks atractive to guys, basicaly they are all hot chicks with blue skin, Quarians are made to look atractive to latex fetishists, they have boobs and dem hips. Let's stop pretending that females in this game were made to make sense from the lore point of view, they were made to look atractive, ugly females is not what I expect from Turians. I do expect Salarian females to be something like a broodmother... or Alien Queen (and by Alien I mean Xenomorph)... but Turians being bald dudes? Nope.

Actually Quarians being attractive was an accident. If I remember correctly, devs didn't make Tali a love interest in ME because they didn't think anyone would date a girl with "chicken feet."

Attractive? We have no idea what quarians look like under those suits. 

[-Skorpious-]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Pwener2313 wrote...

*SPOILER*

Garrus has a "special" mission, regardless if he died or not, in Palaven. I assume it's about his sister and sick mother, so there alone is two.

SOURCE DAT.  CONFIRMATION REQUIRED.

Seconded. New Garrus information is always welcome.

[Pwener2313]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Pwener2313 wrote...

*SPOILER*

Garrus has a "special" mission, regardless if he died or not, in Palaven. I assume it's about his sister and sick mother, so there alone is two.

SOURCE DAT.  CONFIRMATION REQUIRED.

GameInformer. Casey said it in a very implied manner. He called it "special mission" wathever he is dead or not. I don't remember where, but I heard it was in Palaven. Im just putting the pieces together.

[AdmiralCheez]

Pwener2313 wrote...

GameInformer. Casey said it in a very implied manner. He called it "special mission" wathever he is dead or not. I don't remember where, but I heard it was in Palaven. Im just putting the pieces together.

Oh.  So you're jumping to conclusions and filling in blanks.

Sigh.  False alarm, everyone.

[lolwut666]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Cool.

[Someone With Mass]

mrsph wrote...

Turian females.

Also how is Garrus supposed to have a special mission if he is dead? Is the ghost of Garrus going to kick some ass?

He's being reanimated.

[Bluko]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

(I would prefer if that shorter fringe, or some kind of visible plating, does cover the top of their heads even if it doesn't extend far past it, simply because on a radiation-heavy planet, that is the part that needs the most protection. It's why bald men have to use sunblock on their heads, whereas I can go hatless all summer.) 

Ding ding ding!

We have a winnar!

It makes no sense to me that female Turians would have no plating on the back of their skull. If anything their entire head should be heavily plated. I mean Turians are suppose to be like a cross between Birds and Raptors right? Aren't the Females suppose to guard the "nest"? Shouldn't they be the most heavily protected if they have to fend off predators and hunt prey? Also again the plating is suppose to protect them from radiation. Doesn't that mean they need their skull mostly plated then?

I get and am okay with males having the longer head fringes as "plummage".

Also straight from the words of a Turian himself:"Asari look just like Blue Turians look at the head-fringe!"

[Pwener2313]

Epic777 wrote...

Attractive? We have no idea what quarians look like under those suits. 

What? sure we do! *yes, another one of these*

http://t1.gstatic.co...qjYxVAT3tNg&t=1

[Kusy]

Point is quarians have boobs and ass some find atractive. And I'm not discussing if they are atractive Epic777, I'm stating a fact that a big ammount of people find them as atractive.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

mrsph wrote...

Epic777 wrote...

Attractive? We have no idea what quarians look like under those suits. 

Turian females.

Also how is Garrus supposed to have a special mission if he is dead? Is the ghost of Garrus going to kick some ass?

I still haven't gotten my GI (sigh, It will never come.)

That said, one of my proposed "squadmate solutions" was this: everyone has one mission "associated" with them. You get that mission whether they're alive or not. If they're alive, they're automatically in your party for that mission (either as a temp squaddie if they are not perm, or as a required choice, like on a loyalty mission). If they aren't alive, you just do the mission without them, and miss some extra cutscenes/dialogue.