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[Obsydian]

I really love the idea of turian females. BUT I dont like the way they look in the comics as much. I mean, if Garrus is talking about their fringe... shouldn't they have fringe? Just sayin. and that's probably been brought up before.

I've seen some beautiful fanart of possible turian females. all are tasteful and rather 'accurate' for what nature might create to compliment the males.

There's my two cents. I'd love to see them.

[Fat Headed Wolf]

Evercrow wrote...

hm, i guess they could avoid most of "lore" questions by showing a female in armor, and changing only faceplates and a silhouette

How exactly would you want the silhouette to change, though? Not attacking, just asking a simple question.

[Evercrow]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Be gone infidel!

So you want to see another Garrus with different facepaint? Because all other changes will require "scientific explanations" .Except if "because it's a female" count as one ))

[CulturalGeekGirl]

Yes, fanfic and fanart is in a really, really weird place in the US. In Japan laws are wildly different (and lawsuits spectacularly difficult to undertake), so you can get that huge fan-comic culture which is pseudo-legal and very much encouraged.

Here, there's actually a rule about infringement: If the creators "know about" infringement, they have to try to get it taken down. Years ago, the MST3K guys famously said "If you are doing an independent MST3K production, please please do not tell us about it. " Off the record, they encouraged these productions, because they were awesome (I saw the last few years of Mystery Anime Theater at Otakon, before they finally retired. /sniff). But they can't officially say "we know these guys are violating copyright but it's totally awesome because they are awesome," or they may lose the ability to defend their IP if someone unethical tries to steal it wholesale and profit from it in the future.

I am not a lawyer, and this information refers partially to copyright issues and partially to trademark issues. There are weird overlapping and contradictory rules for both, and the one lawyer I know who actually undertsands this stuff has told me "Want to understand US copyright law? become a copyright lawyer. No I can't summarize it for you." 

(Parody is fair use, as is using short excerpts in criticism. Fanart and fanfic are scary, though. brrrr.)

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 02 mai 2011 - 06:28 .

[xSTONEYx187x]

In my head Female Turians sound like Female Khajiit from Elder Scrolls IV.

[dcal31]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

The "she" they were referring to was Aria.

Similarly, that little guy in the Urdnot camp was an immature male, serving as an ambassador for the females.

I stand corrected. I rewatched the scene and that explination goes make more sense given the context. I guess there's another race that's missing all it's females.

[lovgreno]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
There's this weird unwritten rule for videogames: All Female Characters Must Be Sexy.

And the first paragraph of it says: To be sexy females must look like a young female human photomodel who haven't had any kids. NO exceptions.

Boring and unimaginative. As proved with Garrus, Thane and alien hunks like that you don't have to look like a stereotype to be sexy. This should not be hard to apply on the females too right?

Modifié par lovgreno, 02 mai 2011 - 06:35 .

[roflchoppaz]

I'm roflchoppaz and I approve of this message.

Seriously, the 'female' turian in the comic is ug-leee. I mean, I understand they're aliens and all, but they didn't look feminine at all. More X chromosomes for female turians!
I also (desperately) believe that the female turian in the comic is just... bald. As in Jack-bald. Maybe some birth defect, I don't know.

[Obsydian]

I really love the idea of turian females. BUT I dont like the way they look in the comics as much. I mean, if Garrus is talking about their fringe... shouldn't they have fringe? Just sayin. and that's probably been brought up before.

I've seen some beautiful fanart of possible turian females. all are tasteful and rather 'accurate' for what nature might create to compliment the males.

There's my two cents. I'd love to see them.

[Ashira Shepard]

Evercrow wrote...


I'm all for turian females though - my main idea was giving them different jaw ,hip and waist lines and more of a wing rudiments on arms and elbows.Loved your fanart btw, especially faceplates on second. Devs should forget about scientific explanations and just go with the best-looking design(not in sex appeal, but in sensibleness)

wat.

I would find it painful for my rather small and fragile ego if someone mocked my work, therefore I need to make up some believable reason for something being the way it is. Like why my Talinth are an all female race so I need a real way of explaining how they reproduce; otherwise it's just begging for being pointed and laughed at. But maybe that's just me being paranoid...

In any case, couldn't they just use one of the fan ideas and pay the artist?

[Confused-Shepard]

I have some beautiful concepts of female Turians where they essentially give them more slender body shapes and sharper facial features to give a sense of feminineness. Possibly sticking them in an elaborate gown for extra marks.

Then Dark Horse goes and makes vomit colored Skeletor.

I sincerely hope the artists browse deviant-art or at-least have some taste unlike Dark Horse.

[AdmiralCheez]

AwesomeName wrote...

See, I think the comic version we've seen is actually perfectly consistent with the lore - but few people ever listen to me when I try to explain why :/...  In any case, isn't the comic version the official, final design for them?  I don't see how they would still be um'ing and ah'ing over the thing (when Derek Watts said all that about female aliens, I got the distinct impression that he was just having a laugh about the difficulty of doing it - I don't understand why so people have interpreted what he said to mean that they couldn't be arsed with it *shrugs*).

I'd actually be fine with it if they used the Dark Horse concept so long as they actually included females in the game.  Am disappoint with sans fringe, but seriously, it's better than nothing.

Also, yes, it is possible that Watts was joking around.  It's hard to tell when they cut it out of context--we really don't know what question they asked or what else he said about it.  Maybe they're trying to avoid spoilers?

Nonetheless, I need a good rant every once in a while.

[Ashira Shepard]

Confused-Shepard wrote...
Then Dark Horse goes and makes vomit colored Skeletor.
 

Because re-drawing a more 'complex' scaley, elegant Fem-Skeletor would be too much work, hurr durr.

[Evercrow]

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

Evercrow wrote...

hm, i guess they could avoid most of "lore" questions by showing a female in armor, and changing only faceplates and a silhouette

How exactly would you want the silhouette to change, though? Not attacking, just asking a simple question.

well, the turians already have pretty thin waists even in armor, so the change here would be too subtle. I would concentrate on other turian distinctive features, like legs.Change proportions a bit between ankles and thighs(longer ankles, smaller knee protrusions).Also,  more of rudimentary wings on arms(elbow and forearm region, but arms themselves a little thinner ).And maybe remove the collar on armor, make it more streamlined(such collarbones will be a distinctively male feature). Oh, and almost forgot about height)

[Surmansuuhun]

There is a way that the females in the comics can still exist but are simply not the majority, sort of like how they explain in DA 2 that not all Qunari have horns. Could just be a genetic variance. I'd prefer a different look than in the comics, but really as long as they have females in the game, I'll be ok.

[roflchoppaz]

Surmansuuhun wrote...

There is a way that the females in the comics can still exist but are simply not the majority, sort of like how they explain in DA 2 that not all Qunari have horns. Could just be a genetic variance. I'd prefer a different look than in the comics, but really as long as they have females in the game, that doesn't look like in comics, I'll be ok.

Exactly my point. Not that anyone read it, of course.

[Surmansuuhun]

roflchoppaz wrote...

Surmansuuhun wrote...

There is a way that the females in the comics can still exist but are simply not the majority, sort of like how they explain in DA 2 that not all Qunari have horns. Could just be a genetic variance. I'd prefer a different look than in the comics, but really as long as they have females in the game, that doesn't look like in comics, I'll be ok.

Exactly my point. Not that anyone read it, of course.

I did! I should have quoted it, sorry! Plus, it doesn't necessarily have to be a defect, but more like recessive verses dominant trait.

[Labrev]

Chewin3 wrote...

Bioware: Ah yes, ../../../uploads_user/2465000/2464671/118005.giffemale turians../../../uploads_user/2465000/2464671/118005.gif

finally, a gif that's doing it right (one finger)

[aimlessgun]

Frankly I think Bioware might be afraid of tackling alien gender relations if turian females were prominently featured. Giving them dialogue and interactions with male turians and such...big ol' can of worms there.  

Potentially pretty interesting though, on questions such as what is femininity etc.  I get the feeling a lot of gamers would be like "no breasts/hipz = not female amg". And beyond the physical there are all the personality/social/cultural tropes to tackle.

Modifié par aimlessgun, 02 mai 2011 - 07:02 .

[Vena_86]

Dark Horse Comics suck. That is all.

[Tamahome560]

I don't care how they look but Turian females need to be in ME3. It is now or never.

[JeffZero]

I, Jeff Zero, shall knock BioWare all down... unless they put female turians in ME3!