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[armass]

Clonedzero wrote...

armass wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

armass wrote...

Again how is one reaper going to succeed against a reconstructed Citadel fleet with thanix cannons that can be mounted on fighters and destroy the collector cruiser in 2 shots? How can reapers be so stupid they think the plan that failed already can work a second time with fewer forces.

You can see where im going with this, can't you? For a reaper, Harbinger really isnt that smart.

yeah, because theres no way they can rebuild a reaper inside the galaxy to indoctrinate people to work as agents to get them past the citadel fleet. that'd be way too smart. you know with the whole indoctrinating influential people to get past their defenses thing. that would be a dumb idea right? using their greatest tool of indoctrination to manipulate people into getting them citadel access. that'd be silly to even try right?

oh....wait.....

Conjecture, but could work, in time. Just how much time do the collectors or this second reaper have, millions of humans have dissapeared, if not Shepard, then someone is bound to be sniffing around in that time for the reason and discover their plans. Why wait for decades or maybe even centuries for another opportunity when they can just fly into the galaxy in 2 years, I say again, what is Harbinger really thinking.

a couple decades is NOTHING to the reapers. vigil himself said that sovereign had been preparing for centries before ME1.  they don't care about waiting 2 years, they dont care about waiting 50.

theyve been using that attack plan for millions of years. having a vanguard open up the back door in so they can easily take everyone out at their own pace. they dont want a frontal assault because THEY are the ships. they'd probably prefer to no do a full on assault of the galaxy as thats stupid if you have options.

i mean what indication do you have that the reapers are in a big rush?

More time they take the larger and more advanced their enemies fleets grow. I doubt one reaper can indoctrinate all the armadas, besides the indoctrination victims die within certain time. And there is proof now of their intent going around in the galaxy, not to mention all the scientific studies of mass relays.  They are taking heavy risks (but the priiize:P).  

Modifié par armass, 03 mai 2011 - 05:01 .

[Manic Sheep]

Perhaps all of this was meant to be supplementary to the rest of reapers attacking? perhaps it was just going to start indoctrinating and causing havoc so the galaxy would be weakened before the rest arrived or they were just getting a head start with the reaper making process so the human reaper could back them up latter or it was part of something else that has yet to be explained and will be explained in ME3.

Modifié par Manic Sheep, 03 mai 2011 - 05:05 .

[Clonedzero]

they've been doing this for millions of years, the harvesting process alone according to vigil is supposed to take centuries. plenty of time for people to grow and advance, but they'e been doing this millions of years.

the key for their success everytime has been cutting people off and surprise attacks not brute force. thus them caring about the surprise attack far more than the possibilities of larger fleets.

hell ideally even if they build fleets, the vanguard reaper could probably manipulate a war between people to thin their fleets out. thats probably the way the reapers would deal with that.

reapers are methodical and manipulative above all else, just because they're super big badass death machines doesnt mean they dont want use that unless forced.

shepard has sorta backed them into a corner where all they have left is brute force.

[applehug]

We still don't know exactly how the Reapers work. I really wish people had enough sense to realize the series has not concluded it and we still don't have all the answers. But why should we expect people to actually THINK?

[Thompson family]

13 of 54. Woot! We're under the 25 percent barrier, and it only took 50+ replies to get there.

[Clonedzero]

Thompson family wrote...

13 of 54. Woot! We're under the 25 percent barrier, and it only took 50+ replies to get there.

to get to what? lol

[JunMadine]

I fear that the third game will be too fast paced and too short. The Reapers are the biggest threat ever faced it should take years to defeat them at least. However, Bioware could pull something off that might avert that logic. Game should be the longest of the three still.

[ckriley]

This would take some big, hairy balls on BW's part, but how pissed do you think everyone would be if it turned out the whole thing was imagined by Shepard? Like he/she was a schizo like the guy from A Beautiful Mind. And all the missions, party members, everything was just an act put together by Alliance high command to get you under control. Kind of like in that movie Shutter Island. Or have some kind of an ending that showed you were the REAL bad guy and the REAL threat all along. Talk about a huge twist...and dare I say KOTOR-like...

[armass]

ckriley wrote...

This would take some big, hairy balls on BW's part, but how pissed do you think everyone would be if it turned out the whole thing was imagined by Shepard? Like he/she was a schizo like the guy from A Beautiful Mind. And all the missions, party members, everything was just an act put together by Alliance high command to get you under control. Kind of like in that movie Shutter Island. Or have some kind of an ending that showed you were the REAL bad guy and the REAL threat all along. Talk about a huge twist...and dare I say KOTOR-like...

If this would come to pass it would create a lynch mob.

[applehug]

ckriley wrote...

This would take some big, hairy balls on BW's part, but how pissed do you think everyone would be if it turned out the whole thing was imagined by Shepard? Like he/she was a schizo like the guy from A Beautiful Mind. And all the missions, party members, everything was just an act put together by Alliance high command to get you under control. Kind of like in that movie Shutter Island. Or have some kind of an ending that showed you were the REAL bad guy and the REAL threat all along. Talk about a huge twist...and dare I say KOTOR-like...

That would be ****ing stupid.

[InvincibleHero]

armass wrote...

Since we know about all the errors the second part has made, and the same writers are doing the third part, how worried are you about the overarching plot?

We can already make some questions:

Why is Shepard on a trial, when She's a spectre, above the law?

What, if anything did she do or accomplish in the couple of months after blowing up the starsystem to gain advantage against the reapers? 300,000 batarians have been killed for a time of 2 months and the reapers still invade in the middle of her trial, like no one knew of their coming?

Why does TIM now suddenly want to kill you, the greatest hope for humanity, in the middle of a reaper invasion?

This is a bad omen, i would say. And the Evolution comic.

 No worries I enjoyed both games and both had quality writing. Of course some parts were of varying strength and weakness but that's down to opinion/preferences of individuals to determine.

1. Easy a spectre isn't above the law. The alliance could presumably imprision or kill a spectre and face little or no sanctions. Member nations are supposed to comply but we all know how well that works out for the UN. The council also may feed a spectre to the wolves for their actions. Yes they got the job done and since it is a bigger headache buh bye.

2. Common writng thread. Only the protagonist sees the danger that all others are oblivious to. Lovecraft does it better though.

3. No idea why Illusive man wants Shepard dead. Blowing up Collector base is one possibility or he is the keymaster having the forgotten cipher imprinted into his mind. It may play a bigger role in ME3. Killing Shep might prevent reaper win but Shep of course is not going to willingly comply.

[didymos1120]

armass wrote...

Again how is one reaper going to succeed against a reconstructed Citadel fleet with thanix cannons that can be mounted on fighters and which can destroy the collector cruiser in 2 shots?

Heretic virus ring a bell?  Or did you think the they just wanted all those geth to sit around in their space stations and digitally sing the Reapers' praises?

[armass]

If TIM is not indoctrinated or cuckoo, why cant he wait after we beat the reaper to kill Shepard then. Why try to kill the guy shooting at the bear that wants to kill you both?

Modifié par armass, 03 mai 2011 - 06:43 .

[armass]

didymos1120 wrote...

armass wrote...

Again how is one reaper going to succeed against a reconstructed Citadel fleet with thanix cannons that can be mounted on fighters and which can destroy the collector cruiser in 2 shots?

Heretic virus ring a bell?  Or did you think the they just wanted all those geth to sit around in their space stations and digitally sing the Reapers' praises?

Good point. Still Thanix mounted on fighters does alot of damage. And there are alot of fighters. Cant get around that fact.

Modifié par armass, 03 mai 2011 - 06:46 .

[HTTP 404]

why worry about things you can't control?

[ExtremeOne]

I have a feeling the story will suck . but if this was all in Shepard's head then Bioware better get a dose of that protection juice because the gates of hell will open and crush bioware

[008Zulu]

Not comfortable calling or it being called a trial. That would imply the matter is being disputed in a Batarian court by a Batarian judge.

An investigation would be more accurate. The Batarians may call for a trial, but something tells me there may not be many Batarians left to call for a trial since the Reapers have arrived in their space. The Council wont be too sad to see this particular relay destroyed, since with a small power boost it links with the relay near the Citadel.

It'll be handled quickly, quietly and without too much hassle.

[Terraneaux]

I am worried. We'll see.

[lolwut666]

I'm not worried, but I'm in the (seemingly) minority who liked ME2's plot.

[GodWood]

Mac is the lead writer

So yes...

[Tripedius]

ME1 is building the threath, ME2 is explaining the threath, ME3 is the threath. Or something like that. I didn't see the collectors as plan B, but just as part of the plan. Reapers reap organics to build more and more powerfull reapers, the collectors do this for them after sampeling the species. I think the were after the council races first, but after Shepard stopped Soverign they changed focus to them. A organic stopping a reaper is something special and that's why they were interested. Besides he was the only one who knew, killing him would supress their threath again.
On Cerberus, I think you we're mainly bait to lure out the collectors. That you made it to and from the SM (if Shep is alive) was probably a suprise for TIM (as it is a SM mission). That TIM is now out to kill you is probably a result of that, you weren't supposed to surive. On the other hand I would have liked the twist that Cerberus is part of the Reapers and the Collectors were building a human reaper to fight the reapers. Now that would have been a plot twist, destroying an ally you didnt know you had. Unfortunately that option is out of the window due to Harbringers involvement.

As for the story of ME3, it WILL be disappointing to a large part of the community. Everyone probably has his or her ideas about what should happen and that's not all going to happen. But the main plot isn't ME's strong point, it's all the companions, immersive universe and details (like the reference to the securom problems of ME1 in ME2).

[ExtremeOne]

Arcian wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

I have a feeling the story will suck . but if this was all in Shepard's head then Bioware better get a dose of that protection juice because the gates of hell will open and crush bioware

You don't have a shred of realism in you.

  



Then I will say it like this. If the story in Mass Effect 3 is garbage then Me and a lot of other people on here will have no problem in calling them out for their bull sh*t .   

[Antivenger]

ExtremeOne wrote...

Arcian wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

I have a feeling the story will suck . but if this was all in Shepard's head then Bioware better get a dose of that protection juice because the gates of hell will open and crush bioware

You don't have a shred of realism in you.

  



Then I will say it like this. If the story in Mass Effect 3 is garbage then Me and a lot of other people on here will have no problem in calling them out for their bull sh*t .   

To the eXtreme, bRo!