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By the way DA 2 is a real heap of $4!t, just my opinion, but it's just as valid as yours, look I'm glad that you enjoy a game that is subpar, I really am, I just have a hard time grasping how anyone could play origins, then prefer this garbage "Laidlow" dumped on us

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Mad-Max90 wrote...

By the way DA 2 is a real heap of $4!t, just my opinion, but it's just as valid as yours, look I'm glad that you enjoy a game that is subpar, I really am, I just have a hard time grasping how anyone could play origins, then prefer this garbage "Laidlow" dumped on us


And this surely qualifies as a definition of maturity. Not.:pinched:

Are you incapable of voicing your opinions without rudeness, vitriol and name calling?

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Mad-Max90 wrote...

By the way DA 2 is a real heap of $4!t, just my opinion, but it's just as valid as yours, look I'm glad that you enjoy a game that is subpar, I really am, I just have a hard time grasping how anyone could play origins, then prefer this garbage "Laidlow" dumped on us


I don't prefer it per se, but I do think that the series should keep a few things:

  • sped up combat, but slow down 2H attacks just a tad
  • voiced protagonist, but I think choice should be given as to what the voice is. Picking from a few voice sets and that's the voice you hear in conversations.
  • Keep giving companions a home base of sorts, but give more options to talk with them on your own terms

those are the ones that immediately spring to mind.

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Jane Austin witty? Ummm no howabout dante alighieri, the guy wrote his enemies into his own fictional Hell, that his religion then took on as their own view as well that is witty, that guy had game, so he gets banned from Florence, what does he do write his rivals into hell only to portray himself as merciful to them in the book, that is pure genius

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Persephone wrote...

Mad-Max90 wrote...

By the way DA 2 is a real heap of $4!t, just my opinion, but it's just as valid as yours, look I'm glad that you enjoy a game that is subpar, I really am, I just have a hard time grasping how anyone could play origins, then prefer this garbage "Laidlow" dumped on us


And this surely qualifies as a definition of maturity. Not.:pinched:

Are you incapable of voicing your opinions without rudeness, vitriol and name calling?

If he did not call DA2 a piece of crap every time he complained about the game, I would have a heart attack.

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Mad-Max90 wrote...

Jane Austin (Sic!) witty? Ummm no 


Um, yes. She is world famous for writing witty characters. (Elizabeth Bennet, for example)

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I'm sorry when did I come here and say "hi, I'll be you mature guide to the Internet!" I didn't, but at least I never tried to ban a guy for an obvious joke, but to writer redux I do agree with you there but the main thing that made this game **** to me at least was the lack of any real choices to be made that would effect the main plot

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Persephone wrote...

Mad-Max90 wrote...

By the way DA 2 is a real heap of $4!t, just my opinion, but it's just as valid as yours, look I'm glad that you enjoy a game that is subpar, I really am, I just have a hard time grasping how anyone could play origins, then prefer this garbage "Laidlow" dumped on us


And this surely qualifies as a definition of maturity. Not.:pinched:

Are you incapable of voicing your opinions without rudeness, vitriol and name calling?


Tis the eloquence that one expects from the likes of those named Mad, Jabba, and Booger. IMO.

AFWIW - It was I that reported you, lest another catch the fly off the handle berations. FYI

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Elhanan wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Mad-Max90 wrote...

By the way DA 2 is a real heap of $4!t, just my opinion, but it's just as valid as yours, look I'm glad that you enjoy a game that is subpar, I really am, I just have a hard time grasping how anyone could play origins, then prefer this garbage "Laidlow" dumped on us


And this surely qualifies as a definition of maturity. Not.:pinched:

Are you incapable of voicing your opinions without rudeness, vitriol and name calling?


Tis the eloquence that one expects from the likes of those named Mad, Jabba, and Booger. IMO.

AFWIW - It was I that reported you, lest another catch the fly off the handle berations. FYI


Whoa, whoa. Let's not use each other's user names as insults. That's what started this whole mess, after all.:(

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Persephone wrote...

Mad-Max90 wrote...

Jane Austin (Sic!) witty? Ummm no 


Um, yes. She is world famous for writing witty characters. (Elizabeth Bennet, for example)


That she is famous does not mean everyone needs to agree with you. I do not find Jane Austen witty as well, however you may not found other writers I like witty as well. That is how the world works. But If you want anyone take you seriously at not harrasing people about they opinion od DA2, than you should not harass them for their opinion of (fro example) Jane Austin - which is what aou are doing now. I agree with you on DA2 matter but now you are doing the same thing as those DA2 haters you are criticising. jane Austin is not the only famous writer on the world you know.

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And no house I don't call it a piece of crap, I call it devolution of the rpg genre, a sequel of the poorest quality, and so on and so on, it's like they took all the complaints the mass effect team had with 2 and threw it out the window, and made the same mistakes with this franchise

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Mad-Max90 wrote...

And no house I don't call it a piece of crap, I call it devolution of the rpg genre, a sequel of the poorest quality, and so on and so on.

Are you talking about ME2?

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one thing I didn't like were the massive gaps in time. I would've been happy if Varric had told Cassandra "I'll tell you the most important parts about Hawke". That way, it implies that Hawke didn't just sit with his thumb up his ass for 3 years until the Qunari got pissed and then another 3 years until Meredith went bat**** insane.

However, I just choose to imagine that Varric says that. In fact, I found a youtube clip of cut dialogue that had Cassandra addressing the very same issue. Gaps in time.

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It was only a matter if time until my rival Gary Oa... I mean my Elthanan came here to say hello

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You are not alone OP. I'm on my 9 play throe and I love the game. I have always hated playing mage in other games, DA 2 is the first game I really enjoyed being a magical guy=). I can even play as a female and that is something I usually don't do. I love the game and the fighting in it. Most of my friends say the same, so here we have a loving DA 2 group^^. Keep playing and enjoying the game for many more hours. It's worth it=D

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Galien wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Mad-Max90 wrote...

Jane Austin (Sic!) witty? Ummm no 


Um, yes. She is world famous for writing witty characters. (Elizabeth Bennet, for example)


That she is famous does not mean everyone needs to agree with you. I do not find Jane Austen witty as well, however you may not found other writers I like witty as well. That is how the world works. But If you want anyone take you seriously at not harrasing people about they opinion od DA2, than you should not harass them for their opinion of (fro example) Jane Austin - which is what aou are doing now. I agree with you on DA2 matter but now you are doing the same thing as those DA2 haters you are criticising. jane Austin is not the only famous writer on the world you know.


Oh, I know that not everyone has to agree with me. I'm fine with people liking or disliking Miss Austen's writing. And I also know that Jane Austen isn't the only famous writer in the world. (To cite the example used before, I do love Dante myself. His "Inferno" is a masterpiece)

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Hm, I still haven't finished RDR so I haven't yet returned to my family. I'm curious now :) But it will have to wait, I'm too deeply immersed in Dragon Age 2!

Also, I agree that the Dragon Age ruleset is clearly meant for a video game and would not match with a tabletop game. There actually is a DA tabletop game and it's quite different.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

one thing I didn't like were the massive gaps in time. I would've been happy if Varric had told Cassandra "I'll tell you the most important parts about Hawke". That way, it implies that Hawke didn't just sit with his thumb up his ass for 3 years until the Qunari got pissed and then another 3 years until Meredith went bat**** insane.

However, I just choose to imagine that Varric says that. In fact, I found a youtube clip of cut dialogue that had Cassandra addressing the very same issue. Gaps in time.

This sadly happens when a rpg is rushed. Gaider himself stated he did not enjoy the short time he had to write the game. EA needs to relise this fast and not make this same mistaker again. You can't rush a rpg like you can with a shooter.

Modifié par Mr.House, 03 mai 2011 - 08:23 .


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Mad-Max90 wrote...

It was only a matter if time until my rival Gary Oa... I mean my Elthanan came here to say hello



Gary motherfukking-Oak.


I mean....


Eltha-motherfukking-nan

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No, because fortunately bioware knows where the money is, while mass effect took out some elements it left in bigger elements of an rpg like actual choices that have a effect on the overall ending even if it starts like a butterfly effect, I feel dragon age 2 would be better told in a book or animated film not a game

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Lord Deshwitat wrote...

You are not alone OP. I'm on my 9 play throe and I love the game. I have always hated playing mage in other games, DA 2 is the first game I really enjoyed being a magical guy=). I can even play as a female and that is something I usually don't do. I love the game and the fighting in it. Most of my friends say the same, so here we have a loving DA 2 group^^. Keep playing and enjoying the game for many more hours. It's worth it=D


Lovely post. We really should get this thread back on topic.

WOW, 9 playthroughs. I just finished my sixth and am waiting for Patch 1.03 before I start Nr. 7. In the meantime I'll play some more DAO and rent The Witcher 2.:happy:

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Good for you OP. I'm afraid I do not quite like DA:2 that much. This coming from one of the 'COD audience' (until the travesty that was Black Ops at least). I think that a lot of posters go completely over the top when criticising DA:2, as at the end of the day it was a decent game, and enjoyable for one playthrough. The problems I have with it, that make it significantly worse than Origins, are basically the inability to role play my own character, (I admit I don't play many rpgs, just Fallout, TES and Dragon Age), but from my limited experience I wouldn't class DA:2 as an rpg. The only options I have in terms of Character Creation are gender and class. Which kinda sucks.

Also, the dialogue wheel seriously sucks. Why do things need to be paraphrased? Why can't we have what Hawke will actually say, but in a wheel? That way, people who want to read dialogue can read dialogue, and people who don't want to read as much, can listen to the voiced protaganist? I personally would prefer to do both. I like being able to choose what my characters say, and I then like to hear the VA's saying it.

I'm not going to keep going on though, as I don't want to de-reail your thread too much OP. I'm off to play some MW2, still trying to unlock the spinning skull...

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Mr.House wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

one thing I didn't like were the massive gaps in time. I would've been happy if Varric had told Cassandra "I'll tell you the most important parts about Hawke". That way, it implies that Hawke didn't just sit with his thumb up his ass for 3 years until the Qunari got pissed and then another 3 years until Meredith went bat**** insane.

However, I just choose to imagine that Varric says that. In fact, I found a youtube clip of cut dialogue that had Cassandra addressing the very same issue. Gaps in time.

This sadly happens when a rpg is rushed. Gaider himself stated he did not enjoy the short time he had to writer the game. EA needs to relise this fast and not make this same mistaker again. You can't rush a rpg like you can with a shooter.


David Gaider gives me hope. He doesn't want to let us down. If EA recognized that you can't rush games and actually gave Bioware time to perfect the game, then I wouldn't have such an issue with them. I'd still hate them, but at least they'd have given Bioware what they need.

You can't rush art.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

one thing I didn't like were the massive gaps in time. I would've been happy if Varric had told Cassandra "I'll tell you the most important parts about Hawke". That way, it implies that Hawke didn't just sit with his thumb up his ass for 3 years until the Qunari got pissed and then another 3 years until Meredith went bat**** insane.

However, I just choose to imagine that Varric says that. In fact, I found a youtube clip of cut dialogue that had Cassandra addressing the very same issue. Gaps in time.

This sadly happens when a rpg is rushed. Gaider himself stated he did not enjoy the short time he had to writer the game. EA needs to relise this fast and not make this same mistaker again. You can't rush a rpg like you can with a shooter.


David Gaider gives me hope. He doesn't want to let us down. If EA recognized that you can't rush games and actually gave Bioware time to perfect the game, then I wouldn't have such an issue with them. I'd still hate them, but at least they'd have given Bioware what they need.

You can't rush art.


Indeed. He did mention that they are taking their time with story-related DLCs, so that gives me hope. (I want LOTSB quality at the very least!) :happy:

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I think the franchise should be given to the mass effect team after they complete 3, gaider can still be a part of it and the other writers, but I feel lime this is a franchise best left in more capable hands than Mike's