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[Cutlass Jack]

Booger wrote...

I'm so sorry I bothered some of you people so much. Ha, not! But really I'm glad you got your own thread to love on DA2. I do feel badly that you can't just enjoy it sometimes in the threads. In way of explanation tho, some of us players really love rpgs, and its just so dissapointing when they crap on a great one like Origins. And lets face it, nothing personal, but players like you who like substandard games are partly responsible, because you just encourage more of the same. I hope you realize that you can demand more from them, otherwise don't expect anything better in DA3. It will just be cheaper and faster and crappier.

'Nothing personal, but I'm going to insult you and your tastes now.' Its near impossible to read posts like this now and not hear Kanye West saying it.

[Einherjar420]

Booger wrote...

I'm so sorry I bothered some of you people so much. Ha, not! But really I'm glad you got your own thread to love on DA2. I do feel badly that you can't just enjoy it sometimes in the threads. In way of explanation tho, some of us players really love rpgs, and its just so dissapointing when they crap on a great one like Origins. And lets face it, nothing personal, but players like you who like substandard games are partly responsible, because you just encourage more of the same. I hope you realize that you can demand more from them, otherwise don't expect anything better in DA3. It will just be cheaper and faster and crappier.

I love Role Playing Games more than any other genre. I enjoyed Dragon Age II far more than Dragon Age: Origins. Your opinion is that Dragon Age II is sub-standard, don't try to pass it off as fact. I feel it is a great game, far more enjoyable than Dragon Age: Origins. The story was far better than Dragon Age: Origins, it just needed more time.
I'll take that over the cliche "kill the big bad guy and save the world" story any day.

Dragon Age II didn't ruin Dragon Age: Origins in any way, so I'm not understanding this "its just so dissapointing when they crap on a great one like Origins."

I'm sure plenty of people are playing Dragon Age: Origins along side Dragon Age II and are enjoying the experience.  I've been considering playing Dragon Age: Origins again, although I can't decide on which class to play, and I fear my choices will be the same as my first playthrough.

Both Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age II are great games. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Cutlass Jack]

Einherjar420 wrote...

I'm sure plenty of people are playing Dragon Age: Origins along side Dragon Age II and are enjoying the experience.  I've been considering playing Dragon Age: Origins again, although I can't decide on which class to play, and I fear my choices will be the same as my first playthrough.

True. I've been considering another DAO playthrough. Well more specificially finally getting around to getting past Ostagar on my Mage playthrough. I really want a playthrough where I have two Amell cousins tormenting Cullen over both games. Which would be about perfect if DA3 featured the Cullen romance people started asking for.


Unfortunately I'm still suffering from a bit of DAO burnout, so I'll probably come back to that plan in a few months.

[Cutlass Jack]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Do eeeet!!! And make it an elven mage. You're an elf, AND a mage. Best. Playthrough. Ever!

Then she wouldn't be an Amell sadly. And I don't think the elven mage gets the mentions from the Merril/Dalish.

But my wife does have a 'confirmed bachelor' elven mage playthrough. But I don't think he got Cullen flirt options.

[AkiKishi]

Origins gave me 6 quite different characters because of how they tackled the origin story. Nothing so obvious as being put into a personality catagory but changing depending on the nature of the situation.

The City Elf saw the world in a very different way to Human Noble and how I played them reflected that.

[Einherjar420]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Einherjar420 wrote...

I'm sure plenty of people are playing Dragon Age: Origins along side Dragon Age II and are enjoying the experience.  I've been considering playing Dragon Age: Origins again, although I can't decide on which class to play, and I fear my choices will be the same as my first playthrough.

True. I've been considering another DAO playthrough. Well more specificially finally getting around to getting past Ostagar on my Mage playthrough. I really want a playthrough where I have two Amell cousins tormenting Cullen over both games. Which would be about perfect if DA3 featured the Cullen romance people started asking for.


Unfortunately I'm still suffering from a bit of DAO burnout, so I'll probably come back to that plan in a few months.

Dragon Age II introduced a new love for Mages for me, I never played them until Dragon Age II.
I do somewhat want to try a Mage, or maybe an Archer. I was interested in the Arcane Warrior, but the more I read up on it, the more it seemed to be just a tank. I'd rather play a Sword and Shield warrior (I loved how the shield was finally used, most games I played before Origins just had the shield there)

So, that's my standstill. I really enjoyed the Sword and Shield warrior on my first playthrough, but I don't think I should play that again without first trying a new class. I'd like to play a mage, but I'd be aiming more for a War Wizard, or Spellsword, if you will. If that's not possible, then I may just have to play a warrior again. I don't think I could play 60+ hours as an archer, haven't read up on what it's like though.
 
EDIT: I, personally, still get upset when I see the Heavy Armor in Dragon Age: Origins. I can't concieve of how it would be physically possible to engage in combat with a 2 handed weapon, or a Sword and Shield, for more than a minute with those huge shoulderpads.

Modifié par Einherjar420, 04 mai 2011 - 02:38 .

[Alex Kershaw]

Mike Laidlaw's private account clearly.

[fightright2]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Booger wrote...

I'm so sorry I bothered some of you people so much. Ha, not! But really I'm glad you got your own thread to love on DA2. I do feel badly that you can't just enjoy it sometimes in the threads. In way of explanation tho, some of us players really love rpgs, and its just so dissapointing when they crap on a great one like Origins. And lets face it, nothing personal, but players like you who like substandard games are partly responsible, because you just encourage more of the same. I hope you realize that you can demand more from them, otherwise don't expect anything better in DA3. It will just be cheaper and faster and crappier.

'Nothing personal, but I'm going to insult you and your tastes now.' Its near impossible to read posts like this now and not hear Kanye West saying it.

LOL. 

[fightright2]

Alistairlover94 wrote...


Do eeeet!!! And make it an elven mage. You're an elf, AND a mage. Best. Playthrough. Ever!

Yeah, back when an elf looked like an elf.

[Joe Barnin]

Thank you, OP. I concur wholeheartedly.

[Einherjar420]

fightright2 wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...


Do eeeet!!! And make it an elven mage. You're an elf, AND a mage. Best. Playthrough. Ever!

Yeah, back when an elf looked like an elf.

Isn't the only defining feature of an Elf their long ears? Those existed in both Dragon Age games

[Einherjar420]

Alex Kershaw wrote...

Mike Laidlaw's private account clearly.

If that is targetted at me,  you're clearly mistaken. I've never met Mike Laidlaw. My name is Matt, from Alberta, Canada.

[fightright2]

Einherjar420 wrote...

fightright2 wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...


Do eeeet!!! And make it an elven mage. You're an elf, AND a mage. Best. Playthrough. Ever!

Yeah, back when an elf looked like an elf.

Isn't the only defining feature of an Elf their long ears? Those existed in both Dragon Age games

You would think, huh?
But apparently now protruding noses and :alien:eyes are added to them.  

[Fishy]

It's the internet.Hate spread  very fast.A lot of people were pissed at bioware for the change.So when they release a game that was not up to par to Origins ...Well that fuel their hate and give them more option for spamming picture.

Modifié par Suprez30, 04 mai 2011 - 10:06 .

[Jon Jern_]

Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?
On a serious(?) note, I think Dragon Age 2 was a solid game. 

Modifié par Jon Jern , 04 mai 2011 - 10:53 .

[Einherjar420]

fightright2 wrote...

Einherjar420 wrote...

fightright2 wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...


Do eeeet!!! And make it an elven mage. You're an elf, AND a mage. Best. Playthrough. Ever!

Yeah, back when an elf looked like an elf.

Isn't the only defining feature of an Elf their long ears? Those existed in both Dragon Age games

You would think, huh?
But apparently now protruding noses and :alien:eyes are added to them.  

In my opinion, they look more like elves in Dragon Age II than they did in Dragon Age: Origins. In the end, an elf can look like anything, as long as they have the long ears. That's the main physical trait of an elf. So, really, no elf design is wrong nor right. It's all a matter of what the person designing the elf wants it to look like. Again, this is more my opinion. I'm sure that's a topic that can be opened for discussion, although I won't be the one to do it.

[-Skorpious-]

I also have discovered something great about DA2

Being somewhat constructive, I felt that the players should have played a more active role in Hawke's rise to power (aka DA2's "plot"). Should Hawke support X or Y? What will be the ramifications of doing so? Allying himself with the Carta could provide short-term benefits at the possible expense of being black-mailed by them later. Should Hawke expose the guards corruption, possibly crippling their authority (even if it is the right thing to do)? Can Hawke use the mage/templar conflict to further his own agenda?

Basically, the player should have been involved more in the shaping of the plot. I won't go into specifics, but everyone knows that a certain cleric/mage were the catalysts behind the war; not Hawke.

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 05 mai 2011 - 06:15 .

[erynnar]

-Skorpious- wrote...


I also have discovered something great about DA2

Being somewhat constructive, I felt that the players should have played a more active role in Hawke's rise to power (aka DA2's "plot"). Should Hawke support X or Y? What will be the ramifications of doing so? Allying himself with the Carta could provide short-term benefits at the possible expense of being black-mailed by them later. Should Hawke expose the guards corruption, possibly crippling their authority (even if it is the right thing to do)? Can Hawke use the mage/templar conflict to further his own agenda?

Basically, the player should have been involved more in the shaping of the plot. I won't go into specifics, but everyone knows that a certain cleric/mage were the catalysts behind the war; not Hawke.

This^ It would have made it less Fed ex fetch me quests.

[Addai]

Einherjar420 wrote...
In my opinion, they look more like elves in Dragon Age II than they did in Dragon Age: Origins. In the end, an elf can look like anything, as long as they have the long ears. That's the main physical trait of an elf.

Professor Tolkien begs to differ.

[Addai]

Einherjar420 wrote...
So, that's my standstill. I really enjoyed the Sword and Shield warrior on my first playthrough, but I don't think I should play that again without first trying a new class. I'd like to play a mage, but I'd be aiming more for a War Wizard, or Spellsword, if you will. If that's not possible, then I may just have to play a warrior again. I don't think I could play 60+ hours as an archer, haven't read up on what it's like though.
 
EDIT: I, personally, still get upset when I see the Heavy Armor in Dragon Age: Origins. I can't concieve of how it would be physically possible to engage in combat with a 2 handed weapon, or a Sword and Shield, for more than a minute with those huge shoulderpads.

You can equip medium armor if you prefer.

AW has some flexibility and need not be a tank.  Some of my AWs were straight casters and only switched to weapons for close-up melee.  Archer is rather weak in Origins, though better in Awakening.

[Tommy6860]

erynnar wrote...

-Skorpious- wrote...


I also have discovered something great about DA2

Being somewhat constructive, I felt that the players should have played a more active role in Hawke's rise to power (aka DA2's "plot"). Should Hawke support X or Y? What will be the ramifications of doing so? Allying himself with the Carta could provide short-term benefits at the possible expense of being black-mailed by them later. Should Hawke expose the guards corruption, possibly crippling their authority (even if it is the right thing to do)? Can Hawke use the mage/templar conflict to further his own agenda?

Basically, the player should have been involved more in the shaping of the plot. I won't go into specifics, but everyone knows that a certain cleric/mage were the catalysts behind the war; not Hawke.

This^ It would have made it less Fed ex fetch me quests.

I thought about this and while the term "fedex quests" has become known as something tedious and without meaning in the context it is used here, I really wouldn't have a problem with those quests if while doing them, I was "shaping the world around me". All the game had to do was allow for my chocies to really reflect in the game between factions and even in plots to come. Origins did this so well, even though it had fedex quests.

[Realmzmaster]

Fedex quests are a staple of CRPGs. Because it is an easy way to give experience points to build up a character. Another way is to have quests that have easier opponents like the kill the rats or kobolds in the basement quest. Other games used random encounters to help characters get experience points or get the points necessary to get to the next level. All of which can get boring except maybe you get a random encounter that could wipe out your whole party which use to happen in Temple of Elemental Evil before it was patched.
Fedex quests also serve the purpose of introducing noobs to the game usually these can be included in a tutorial quest along with learning the controls.
I have no problem with Fedex quests. Those type of quests happen in every single CRPG. How the quests are balanced is more of a concern.
A lot of the Fedex quests appear in the context of a bigger quest in DA 2 so it is not a big problem.
DA:O also had a lot of Fedex quests. I liked both games.

Modifié par Realmzmaster, 06 mai 2011 - 12:52 .

[SkittlesKat96]

Lesdeth wrote...

Sounds like another individual who didn't understand the mechanics of DAO enough to make combat better.

I understand that a lot of people don't like the game but the worst thing (and the thing Bioware is angry at and a lot of other users) are the people like you who make snide comments and can't accept the fact that some people enjoyed the game

Honestly just get over it 

[Cody211282]

"It's a CITY and not just a quest hub."

If by that you mean an area that disperses quests with static never changing environments and NPCs that your decisions have no effect on then yes it is a city. But by that definition so is the intro. Honestly the Normandy felt more alive then Kirkwall did and I'm talking post collector kidnapping.