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[DanteCousland]

Questions in the title.

[Darkhour]

DanteCousland wrote...

Questions in the title.

Devs only A.) lock threads. B.) tell people to be nice and C.) reply to ass kissing threads.

They do not reply to anything negative. They don't have the balls.

[88mphSlayer]

i dunno, i like CoD, i also like DAO and DA2, my favorite rpg is Planescape Torment, and i can never get into any Fable games

[delikanli]

Darkhour wrote...

DanteCousland wrote...

Questions in the title.

Devs only A.) lock threads. B.) tell people to be nice and C.) reply to ass kissing threads.

They do not reply to anything negative. They don't have the balls.

the truth is here..

[Cutlass Jack]

They certainly couldn't have done any worse than COD did attracting my business. And they didn't alienate this old fan.

[Andraste_Reborn]

They certainly couldn't have done any worse than COD did attracting my business. And they didn't alienate this old fan.

Same here. I haven't played a shooter since my C64 days, but I liked DAII just fine.

[billy the squid]

Well by the look of things the percieved audience(I don't think it was aimed specifically at CoD fans)hasn't materialised in any great number. The FPS/TPS/Sport game etc. exclusive crowd won't touch it anyway, a proportion of others will be turned off by the graphics/art design etc. whilst other gamers simply don't like the whole concept of RPGs.

Of the core audience a portion of people who bought the game are pi**ed off, others went "meh" and stuck DA2 on a shelf, whilst other's enjoyed it. And at leas some have held off on buying the game altogether.

So, no they didn't really get the CoD style exclusive crowd, were they ever going to? and managed to alienate or at least irritate a proportion of the existing fan base, but not everyone.

[thatbwoyblu]

They damn sure attracted the Gears of Wars bwoys because a lot of my peepz got da 2 and loved the **** out of it. The only bad thing bout Da2 is the enemies spawning from thin air, all up in your rogue or mage face. Besides that annoying crap DA 2 is Woo Woo Woo approved.

[Aaleel]

Well I guess the real question is, did they bring more new customers to the DA franchise than they lost?

My guess is no, because no matter how you wrap up an RPG is will not appeal to that crowd.

Now, have they lost these fans forever? Depends. Have they lost a lot of people who will pre-order the next DA game, probably. Will some or most of these fans return if they make a great game next time, probably.

[Dr Bawbag]

Surely the Gears of War crowd would be more apt than the CoD crowd? GoW has a lot more in common with DA2 than CoD does.

[AkiKishi]

Played the first one (GoW) found it so-so. A game has to be exceptional to draw me out of my typical genres.

[Slayer299]

I like CoD (2 and MW1 only) myself, but I haven't seen DA2 really pulling in any serious numbers from that crowd (4,5,6 million). I think all BW did was really ****** off a lot of their core fans and make sure they'll have more than a few second thoughts about any future purchases.

[DanteCousland]

I was an rpg gamer who went to COD rather than vice versa.

[Nerdage]

Darkhour wrote...

DanteCousland wrote...

Questions in the title.

Devs only A.) lock threads. B.) tell people to be nice and C.) reply to ass kissing threads.

They do not reply to anything negative. They don't have the balls.

It serves nobody to have devs arguing with everybody who comes to this forum with a chip on their shoulder, this sort of thing is what benefits us. What it comes down to is they'll respond if you have a good, well phrased question and they have something to add, but if your question contains phrases like "the COD crowd" you're probably just raging, which will result in 'B' and probably 'A', too.

Also, I like DA2. I liked Origins, and loved Baldur's Gate, but I've also been know to play Killzone, God of War and even Soldier of Fortune. You know what I consider myself? A gamer. Let's cool down on the generalisations.

Modifié par nerdage, 03 mai 2011 - 02:10 .

[LeBurns]

Well I like both types of games, but I do want them separated. When I'm in the mod for a CoD game I'll play one. When I'm in the mood to immerse myself into a deep role playing experience, I want a game that does that. Mixing the two is absolutely the wrong thing to do in my opinion. So while I like both game types, and can't stand the DA2 hybrid they made.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

LeBurns wrote...

Well I like both types of games, but I do want them separated. When I'm in the mod for a CoD game I'll play one. When I'm in the mood to immerse myself into a deep role playing experience, I want a game that does that. Mixing the two is absolutely the wrong thing to do in my opinion. So while I like both game types, and can't stand the DA2 hybrid they made.

[Rockpopple]

I'm an old fan, and I'm still here. =P

As for CoD, I like the occasional match. It does rub on you after a while.

[Rockpopple]

delikanli wrote...

Darkhour wrote...

DanteCousland wrote...

Questions in the title.

Devs only A.) lock threads. B.) tell people to be nice and C.) reply to ass kissing threads.

They do not reply to anything negative. They don't have the balls.

the truth is here..

Sure, sure. If by "truth" you mean "total bullpucky".

Odd definition of "truth", but... well... that's our modern education system for ya. Dictionaries be damned!

[jimmy_smith]

I like CoD and I like DA:O, both are good game
but DA:II is not on my good game list, it's just decent at best.

[88mphSlayer]

billy the squid wrote...

Well by the look of things the percieved audience(I don't think it was aimed specifically at CoD fans)hasn't materialised in any great number. The FPS/TPS/Sport game etc. exclusive crowd won't touch it anyway, a proportion of others will be turned off by the graphics/art design etc. whilst other gamers simply don't like the whole concept of RPGs.

Of the core audience a portion of people who bought the game are pi**ed off, others went "meh" and stuck DA2 on a shelf, whilst other's enjoyed it. And at leas some have held off on buying the game altogether.

So, no they didn't really get the CoD style exclusive crowd, were they ever going to? and managed to alienate or at least irritate a proportion of the existing fan base, but not everyone.

truth is FPS people pick up an rpg in the same frequency as RPG people pick up an fps

usually it's just due to popularity/word of mouth/a desire for something different, in which case it rarely matters what type of sub-genre your game is in - just that it's considered universally good and is somewhat accessible

[Edhriano]

Never Played CoD, I played Counter Strike from time 2 time.

[wowpwnslol]

Darkhour wrote...

They do not reply to anything negative. They don't have the balls.

You really think devs will admit their game was a fiasco? This doesn't have anything to do with "having balls". This has to do with saving the face of the company. They already know their console action-adventure game was a failure, but they'll never admit it.

[Darkhour]

wowpwnslol wrote...

Darkhour wrote...

They do not reply to anything negative. They don't have the balls.

You really think devs will admit their game was a fiasco? This doesn't have anything to do with "having balls". This has to do with saving the face of the company. They already know their console action-adventure game was a failure, but they'll never admit it.

I can assure you, mate, that lying never saves face.  It makes you look untrustworthy and devalues anything you say. If 90% of people say DA2 suck (not saying that's necessarily an accurate number) and Bioware says it's great, it wasn't rushed, we thought reused area was a good idea, the waves were just fine, DX11 made any noticable difference, etc. then all they're saying is "we have no ****g clue how to make a good game and this is what you can expect from now on". That does not save face and is not good for business. No one is going to read that and say, "Oh, well I guess DA2 was excelent afterall. Consider your face saved. Crisis averted. Can I pre-order DA3 yet?"  What they are going to say is, "You either have no clue as to what the F your doing or you're an untrstwoorthy pack a lying snakes who'll say anything to move product". No face saved. Your words become hollow. Your reputation is dragged through the mud.
 
You have to acknowledge your mistakes. Humility is not weakness. Otherwise people may expect you to keep repeating your mistakes. Which means people will pass on future products.

[Stanley Woo]

I think that anyone who wanted to have an honest discussion of this would a) show far less hostility and more sincerity in their question, and realize that the general gaming audience is not as polarized as many people here make it out to be.

Stop trying to pick fights with us, stop goading us into giving you ammunition to shoot back at us, and maybe we'd be more interested in talking. Just saying.