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!Do not buy the DLC!

You are contributing to the problem future games will face, you are betraying your fellow gamers and you're betraying yourself.

It is up to each of us to take a step back and resist the temptation to buy this just because it's Dragon Age and think about what we could have gotten if this was a proper sequel and full game.


Oh really? Betraying our fellow gamers are we? Well I'm glad we have you around to guide us then. 

Gee thanks! <_<


You can thank me when they do Dragon Age 3 properly. :lol:

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CRISIS1717 wrote...

!Do not buy the DLC!

You are contributing to the problem future games will face, you are betraying your fellow gamers and you're betraying yourself.

It is up to each of us to take a step back and resist the temptation to buy this just because it's Dragon Age and think about what we could have gotten if this was a proper sequel and full game.


If it means betraying you, I think I'm gonna buy me some DLC.

Twice.

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Fake story, no one on the internet has any real friends.

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I certainly won't be buying any of the DLC. I own every ME1, ME2 and DAO DLC, and have every single achievement on all 3 of those games and their respective DLCs. I won't be buying any DA2 DLC after making the mistake of purchasing it.

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CRISIS1717 wrote...

!Do not buy the DLC!

You are contributing to the problem future games will face...



I agree, if you do not like a game, then the best signal that can be sent to the developers is not to pay them more money for it.

In this world, money talks and I fear that in this case, it's the only language Mr. Laidlaw and Bioware will understand. Afterall, they still seem to be in complete denial of the games flaws, as we know, Laidlaw stated in one of the interviews that anyone not satisfied with the game should simply play it on hard difficulty.

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Since I like the game the question is not aimed at me. So I will go and purchase all the DLC I want. But as far as stupidity is concern there is a whole series of books (Duh!) written on the stupidity of the human race.

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Rockpopple wrote...

CRISIS1717 wrote...

!Do not buy the DLC!

You are contributing to the problem future games will face, you are betraying your fellow gamers and you're betraying yourself.

It is up to each of us to take a step back and resist the temptation to buy this just because it's Dragon Age and think about what we could have gotten if this was a proper sequel and full game.


If it means betraying you, I think I'm gonna buy me some DLC.

Twice.


This sounds even better when reading it with Avery Brooks' voice (and not just because everything sounds better when read with Avery Brooks' voice).

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OP - eerily enough, I had a similar experience. A friend of mine saw me playing DA:O a couple of times and had heard me raving about it. He bought it about two weeks ago and to all intents and purposes vanished...the only evidence he was alive and well was the plethora of achievement updates to his profile. I believe he's currently on playthrough 4, and has picked up all of the mission-based DLCs. ;)

...and he asked about DA2. Hardly surprising. So I loaded it up, ran through a quick mission to demo what it plays like once you know what you're doing, pulled up various screens, steadfastly avoided spoilers, etc.

I didn't give any particular opinion when doing this (although I think he knows I liked DA2 a lot less), but he was clearly underwhelmed. I don't believe he plans to get DA2 in the foreseeable future - although there was an unexpected twist, as the "free" ME2 means he's now seen that and will probably pick it up, as he liked the original Mass Effect. ;)

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Wozearly wrote...

OP - eerily enough, I had a similar experience. A friend of mine saw me playing DA:O a couple of times and had heard me raving about it. He bought it about two weeks ago and to all intents and purposes vanished...the only evidence he was alive and well was the plethora of achievement updates to his profile. I believe he's currently on playthrough 4, and has picked up all of the mission-based DLCs. ;)

...and he asked about DA2. Hardly surprising. So I loaded it up, ran through a quick mission to demo what it plays like once you know what you're doing, pulled up various screens, steadfastly avoided spoilers, etc.

I didn't give any particular opinion when doing this (although I think he knows I liked DA2 a lot less), but he was clearly underwhelmed. I don't believe he plans to get DA2 in the foreseeable future - although there was an unexpected twist, as the "free" ME2 means he's now seen that and will probably pick it up, as he liked the original Mass Effect. ;)


And in the sales numbers, that counts as a sale of DA2... Image IPB

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Aermord wrote...

I saved my friend the other day. He was visiting and praising Dragon Age Origins, which he bought only recently, and like me he absolutely loved the game. He knew I had DA2 and that I hate it, but to do him a favor and save him from any nagging thoughts on "what if I would like DA2 anyway" I showed him the gameplay.

After having finished a standard mission in five-ten minutes, with some parachuting enemies dropping into the battle from nowhere, and the combat moving at a pace twice as fast as it's humanly possible to move, while clicking the "awesome" button to make the enemies explode ever so nicely. I noticed is face growing pale. Then after having told him that I knew that area very well, because I had visited it several times before littered with other kinds of enemies, and after I'd told him that it is not possible to speak with companions when I want to, AND after showing him the very populated city of kirkwall, and telling him a bit about the -bad- story, I knew I had saved him from making the same mistake as the one I did - Which is buying this game.

As I told him: "As far as I am concerned, DA2 never happened, it doesn't exist, it has no connection to Dragon Age Origins, its a mistake, and it should be forgotten asap."

Now, what I dont get is that on these forums, where I am far from the only one feeling this way about this faliure of a game, I see people, who have the same gripes as I do, WAITING for a DLC to come out. Are we really that stupid as consumers? We buy something we end up hating because we think its a bad product, and still -some- of us wants to invest more money into this thing?

I wonder why? Is it a hope that a DLC will fix all the things that is wrong with DA2? That Bioware will miraculously turn this game 180 degrees and suddently make it good? The chances of that is like buying an old wreck of a car and think that if you put on new tires, you'll get a hot rod.

I dont get it, why would you buy a DLC if you dont like this game? (for those of you who like the game, fair enough if you want to spend money) Why support a company with more money if you think they've failed?


EDIT: Funny how many of the comments given below sounds like they were in the room with my friend and I by telling me that I did not give my friend a fair chance to make his own oppinion. Well, to give all the troubled minds some ease, let me state that my friend is perfectly able of forming his own oppinion, and the reason why I did not describe in precise detail how we explored the game together, going through its good and bad sides, is because this topic is really not about this. Let me also state that nor my friend, any animals, or anything living for that matter, were harmed during the demonstration.


Sigh.. another hipster douche complaining about parachuting enemies and missing out the fact that you can survive meteor showers, lighting bolts, 50 arrows, 100 swords cuts is just a bit.. hypocritical.
Nothing about the game combat is real, duh. Infact, rpg's are all about imaginary worlds with imaginary physics, again, duh.
So stop complaining about something that can be easily ignored by any mature person and start enyoing the game for what it's worth. It has the same good qualities that marked DAO( amazing story, great lore, incredible companions), so you can't say it's worth nothing. 

 

Modifié par Guliver, 04 mai 2011 - 09:57 .


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Guliver wrote...

 

Sigh.. another hipster douche complaining about parachuting enemies and missing out the fact that you can survive meteor showers, lighting bolts, 50 arrows, 100 swords cuts is just a bit.. hypocritical.
Nothing about the game combat is real, duh. Infact, rpg's are all about imaginary worlds with imaginary physics, again, duh.
So stop complaining about something that can be easily ignored by any mature person and start enyoing the game for what it's worth. It has the same good qualities that marked DAO( amazing story, great lore, incredible companions), so you can't say it's worth nothing. 

 



ROFL so now the argument is Hipsters don't like respawning?   HAHAHAHAHAH

Respawning enemies is a CHEAP AND QUICK game design 101 element.  It has nothing to do with hipsters.

That was a really lame stretch there kid.  But it is humorous to state that "mature" people can "ignore" it.  Wow

Modifié par Haexpane, 04 mai 2011 - 11:02 .


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Let's keep it civil, please. Thank you.

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Guliver wrote...

Sigh.. another hipster douche complaining about parachuting enemies and missing out the fact that you can survive meteor showers, lighting bolts, 50 arrows, 100 swords cuts is just a bit.. hypocritical.


Sigh... another person who thinks that fantastic element X always excuses silly element Y.  Oh well.

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CRISIS1717 wrote...

!Do not buy the DLC!

You are contributing to the problem future games will face, you are betraying your fellow gamers and you're betraying yourself.

It is up to each of us to take a step back and resist the temptation to buy this just because it's Dragon Age and think about what we could have gotten if this was a proper sequel and full game.


Sounds like you have enough sand up your kitty to fill an entire litter box.  Because of you, I'll buy two of each DLC so I can giggle at your rage.  Image IPB

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TheTranzor wrote...

CRISIS1717 wrote...

!Do not buy the DLC!

You are contributing to the problem future games will face, you are betraying your fellow gamers and you're betraying yourself.

It is up to each of us to take a step back and resist the temptation to buy this just because it's Dragon Age and think about what we could have gotten if this was a proper sequel and full game.


Sounds like you have enough sand up your kitty to fill an entire litter box.  Because of you, I'll buy two of each DLC so I can giggle at your rage.  Image IPB


How cute. Quoting for posterity. 

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I dislike the concept of DLC's for any company. At first I got a few because of the novelty, it turned out that 95% of them are pure crap and a waste of money. Now, the good old days of an expansion, choked full of content. I miss those days.

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While I don't think your friend is stupid, nor that you are not entitled to your own opinion, I do believe that this demonstration was a little biased. Firstly a demonstration a singular mission isnt a great foundation for judgement. Second did you inform him the nature of the story? Which is to say that the part you play takes place in the past and what matters series wise is how Varrics telling effects Cassandra and that the ending you always get sets the stage for DA3? Why don't you let your friend borrow the game if you have it for the console, or if its on PC let him come over and play it for a few hours, then ask him his reaction.

As for DLC's well is it so wrong for people to have hope? Or even if they hate it, whats wrong with still not being able to get enough of one of their favorite games?

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Guliver wrote...
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So stop complaining about something that can be easily ignored by any mature person and start enyoing the game for what it's worth. It has the same good qualities that marked DAO( amazing story, great lore, incredible companions), so you can't say it's worth nothing. 


Se this is where our opinions differ. I DO NOT believe DA2 has the same good qualities as DAO. I think DA2 got a terrible story that is far from captivating, it alters lore to the worse compared to the original, and the companions are shallow and uninteresting.

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And in the sales numbers, that counts as a sale of DA2... Image IPB


Only from my purchase, which I don't regret.

My friend's will only be counted as a sale of DA:O and ME2. ;)

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This will probably be the first game in this genre that I do not purchase DLC for, I do not hate DA:2, it just did not inspire me enough.

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Haexpane wrote...

Fake story, no one on the internet has any real friends.


But ... but... I do have real friend(s) ... honest ...
Believe me .. please (puppy dog eyes mode on).

Modifié par Edhriano, 05 mai 2011 - 07:41 .


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The very problem with this topic is the topic itself.
It's a yes or no question, with a story about how you lecture your friend about how much you hate the game.
As you've pointed out, the story is irrelevant, and i don't care about you being bossy with your friend.
But you let us choose between 2 responses:

Yes-(we are stupid because we like DA2)

No-(we aren't stupid because we hate DA2)

I dont doubt that you don't see a problem with that, given that in your mind, this mindset is solid. you don't think DA2 is bad, you *know* it is. For you, it's a fact.
Of course, we are all biased towards our own opinions, some are more aware of this than others, and you are seemingly blind to this.

But i'll let you digest this:
There are more answers such as, "no, i'm not an idiot, and i like da2"
People have different opinions and that doesn't make them stupid, even if that opinion clashes with yours.

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Guliver wrote...

amazing story, great lore, incredible companions, so you can't say it's worth nothing

 



im having a heart attack right now

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doloreg wrote...

The very problem with this topic is the topic itself.

...you let us choose between 2 responses:

Yes-(we are stupid because we like DA2)

No-(we aren't stupid because we hate DA2).


Sorry mate, but you misunderstood.

I write in my post that it's fair enough if you want to buy DLCs if you like the game, hence my question is not directed at those of you who -like- the game. Nor am I implying that you are stupid for liking the game. You are entitled to your opinion.

My question was directed towards those who doesnt like the game, but who continue to speak of future DLCs and how they consider buying them if the DLC do this or that to enchance the game. I'm asking that question simply because I find it odd in these times, where money talks, that you would support something you think was a waste of money, by throwing more money at the company that made it.

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neppakyo wrote...

I dislike the concept of DLC's for any company. At first I got a few because of the novelty, it turned out that 95% of them are pure crap and a waste of money. Now, the good old days of an expansion, choked full of content. I miss those days.


Then you should play Bethesda games. They only had one bad DLC that added nothing to the game, and they haven't done it since. On the other hand BioWare is putting out "horse armor" for every game they make now and adding nothing to the game... also you should check out Gearbox Studios' DLC... maybe not the games you like to play but to say all DLC is bad is a bit misinformed.

BioWare DLC = BAD... VERY BAD

Bethesda DLC = GOOD... VERY GOOD

Gearbox DLC = GOOD... but not Beth good.