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[Beerfish]

This last play through I have gone the total A-hole route and did pretty well every despicable thing through out the game but at the end I just couldn't tell Meredith to kill Bethany when you have the choice to stop Meredith or egg her on.  Does she really strike Bethany down if you tell her to?

Modifié par Beerfish, 03 mai 2011 - 03:02 .

[kcman5]

YES

[LobselVith8]

If Bethany is a Circle mage, then Meredith will execute her unless Hawke stops her.

[IanPolaris]

LobselVith8 wrote...

If Bethany is a Circle mage, then Meredith will execute her unless Hawke stops her.

Not only that but if you try to stop her, Meredith is within her legal right per chantry law to kill you as well (a point that Cullen somehow forgets).

-Polaris

[kcman5]

You were doomed anyways, since she bought the idol for her sword.

[Annarl]

LobselVith8 wrote...

If Bethany is a Circle mage, then Meredith will execute her unless Hawke stops her.

Wow  :oI didn't know that.  I always end up helping.  

[Beerfish]

IanPolaris wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

If Bethany is a Circle mage, then Meredith will execute her unless Hawke stops her.

Not only that but if you try to stop her, Meredith is within her legal right per chantry law to kill you as well (a point that Cullen somehow forgets).

-Polaris

Hawke and his cronies get a free pass because every one of the smart high level characters (that do not go insane) knows he/she can wipe the floor with them.  Both Orsino and Meredith before they go bonkers realize that the champion is an important politcal ally and also such a force that they would surely lose any attack.

I agree with you in that I'm sure that in Chantry law and the rite of annulement the templar commander probably has free reign to get rid of anyone standing in the way of their duty.

[88mphSlayer]

yep, it's kind of an unsatisfying death tho

<---- should've lopped that head off

[kcman5]

88mphSlayer wrote...

yep, it's kind of an unsatisfying death tho

<---- should've lopped that head off

 Lol and the remaining Templars play soccer with it for entertainment purposes. 

[IanPolaris]

PurebredCorn wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

If Bethany is a Circle mage, then Meredith will execute her unless Hawke stops her.

   That is so brutal...Bethany is like a sweet little lamb.

That's sorta the point when it comes to the Right of Annulment.

-Polaris

[88mphSlayer]

kcman5 wrote...

88mphSlayer wrote...

yep, it's kind of an unsatisfying death tho

<---- should've lopped that head off

 Lol and the remaining Templars play soccer with it for entertainment purposes. 

Bethany: "I hope it was all worth it..."
Meredith lops her head off, says: "game of soccer anybody?"

Aveline kicks it across the gallows, Fenris passes it to Hawke, Hawke for the goal!
"GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!"

Hawke: "yes sister, it was worth it!"

[Trophonius]

Beerfish wrote...

This last play through I have gone the total A-hole route and did pretty well every despicable thing through out the game but at the end I just couldn't tell Meredith to kill Bethany when you have the choice to stop Meredith or egg her on.  Does she really strike Bethany down if you tell her to?

In fact, she's more the happy to oblige.

[CalJones]

I feel bad just watching that. I still haven't managed to make myself even side with the templars yet, heh.

[TobiTobsen]

We will all burn in hell just for watching that.

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 04 mai 2011 - 05:44 .

[Forst1999]

I feel already sick when i see scenes of betraying Samara, Alistair or Fenris. But this is somehow the worst of all possible betrayals in Bioware games.
Nice that the game gives you a chance to come to your senses, although you already agreed to it (Meredith:"EVERY mage in the circle is to be executed! Immediatly" [...] Hawke "Okelidokeli"). Otherwise my templar playthrough would have been impossible.

[Cerbrus operative]

My heart broke after watching that damned scene

Modifié par Cerbrus operative, 04 mai 2011 - 06:33 .

[IanPolaris]

Anyone else think siding with the Templars is the morally right thing to do?

Killing Bethany IS the logical extension of siding with Meredith.

-Polaris

[Bigdoser]

What do you expect its the rite of annulment. This is one of the main reasons why I sided with the mages hell i would of killed cullen when beth was taken away but bethany stopped me >_>

[IanPolaris]

Bigdoser wrote...

What do you expect its the rite of annulment. This is one of the main reasons why I sided with the mages hell i would of killed cullen when beth was taken away but bethany stopped me >_>

Indeed. This is EXACTLY what siding with the Templars means.  I fault Bioware for not showing more of it such as our "hero" slaughting rooms of little mage children Anakin style.  That at least would be an honest protrayal of the Right of Annulment.

-Polaris

[Rifneno]

IanPolaris wrote...

Anyone else think siding with the Templars is the morally right thing to do?

Killing Bethany IS the logical extension of siding with Meredith.

-Polaris

So true.  I'm sure a templar sided Hawke kills many Bethanys, but it's somehow okay because we never knew them.

Edit: Forgot to reply to this part..

Forst1999 wrote...

I feel already sick when i see scenes of betraying Samara, Alistair or Fenris. But this is somehow the worst of all possible betrayals in Bioware games.

Samara's is more a mercy than anything.  I don't know about you, but I'd rather not live with myself if I had to do what Samara had to do.  Though it is tremendously stupid on Shepard's part.

Fenris was...  wow.  Just a terrible, truly evil option.

Alistair's I only tried once and I couldn't go through with it.  I made the mistake of trying it when I was playing a female Warden that was in a romance with him.  When he said "I didn't think I deserved to be this happy, but I never thought you'd agree..." in that defeated, sorrowful tone I just had to alt-ctrl-del to end the process and then go feel terrible about myself somewhere for a few hours.  That was brutal.

Modifié par Rifneno, 04 mai 2011 - 06:39 .

[Beerfish]

When you are the biggest dawg on the block it is "Don't do as I do, do as I say."

[IanPolaris]

Beerfish wrote...

When you are the biggest dawg on the block it is "Don't do as I do, do as I say."

Ah yes, the so-called "golden rule" i.e. He who has the gold (has the power) makes the rules.

That's nice as long as you're the one with the power....but such things don't last forever...and then payback can be a real female dog.

-Polaris