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#251
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not husband, but definitely her lover.

Hmm could swear she'd explicitly referred to him as her husband in the dialogue. Either when you run into them or at some later point.


she just says that she loved him and that he was the best thing to ever happen to her. They could be married, but it isn't anywhere stated. And given the Circle's and Chantry's stance on marriage, I don't think that they were.

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My best guess is that she was busy with the mage underground. Given her "BLARGH MAGES" stance, it probably seemed far more important than a bunch of muscleheads in the Docks that her templars likely outnumbered anyway.


She was also very big on the Maker and all that. I don't think she would have ignored the biggest heathens in Thedas.
Unless she secretly sympathized with their methods, but still.

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true. But with Petrice it just doesn't do it for me.


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maybe it's the hair style....


She certainly has a severe look about her, but I don't think I would call her unattractive.

If she had lived she might have been able to go to the Flemeth school of makeover.

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Flemeth I find attractive

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Doesn't Sebastian refuse to sleep with Hawke for reasons of celibacy? And Leliana brings up the whole "forbidden fruit" thing with those who have taken vows.
But if it is just a marriage issue, well... my Hawke couldn't marry Petrice even if she wasn't a mother.


I am just going by what the wiki says here.

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Maybe that's why I am finding her attractive.

That expression is just begging for someone to make her smile.

I agree there, and the thought is surprisingly charming.

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
My best guess is that she was busy with the mage underground. Given her "BLARGH MAGES" stance, it probably seemed far more important than a bunch of muscleheads in the Docks that her templars likely outnumbered anyway.


She was also very big on the Maker and all that. I don't think she would have ignored the biggest heathens in Thedas.
Unless she secretly sympathized with their methods, but still.

I think that every time she referred to the Maker in Act 3, she was talking about her sword. But I don't doubt that she loved the saarebas method, and would have enjoyed implementing it.

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she may have actually thought the voice talking to her was indeed the Maker

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

she may have actually thought the voice talking to her was indeed the Maker

This seems likely (and who knows, it may have been), but she didn't seem devout as such before then, just obsessed with the idea of protecting the world from mages. I believe it was that, and not her religion, that led her into the templars.

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I doubt the voice talking to her was the Maker, because that means that Bartrand heard it too and just by hearing the Maker's voice you go insane.


No the voice is something else.

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You don't become Knight Commander of the Templars without having some visible faith in the Maker. The Templars as an organisation are supposedly pretty stringent in that regard.

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Wait, why are we even talking about this? Romances, people?

Hm. Now I can't get away from the idea of a Petricemance. Argh, how would it go...?

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bleetman wrote...

You don't become Knight Commander of the Templars without having some visible faith in the Maker. The Templars as an organisation are supposedly pretty stringent in that regard.


Indeed and one codex says that Templars are picked for their zeal.

So I really doubt that Meredith would have been indifferent to Qunari presence and them amassing converts, both from a religious perspective and from a political / military one.

I have a theory that the Arishok was also having a correspondance with her (which he should have unless he was blind), and in her usual non-negotiating self she may have conveyed the idea that she accepted and was harboring Sister Petrice. So the Arishok took it as a declaration of war and he responded. Without that, his act does not make that much sense to me (in fact, why didn't he use his biological and explosive weapons on the gallows to try and knock out the Templars?). It is still better than the stupid fest of Act 3, but still.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 16 mai 2011 - 01:26 .


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Xilizhra wrote...
Hm. Now I can't get away from the idea of a Petricemance. Argh, how would it go...?


Same.
I mean Bastilla, Morrigan, Anora and now Petrice. I am sensing a pattern here.
Cold strong resistant women that probably have a lot of passionate fire if triggered correctly :wub:


But sadly, I don't think a Petricemance would have made that much sense.

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Personalitywise or personal circumstancewise?

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Well, the Arishok's declaration of war does make sense considering that he has done absolutely nothing to draw the ire of anyone in Kirkwall and they find cowardly ways to kill off his subordinates. They even went so far as to kill a convert, and that was the last straw for him.

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Xilizhra wrote...

Personalitywise or personal circumstancewise?


Both.

She is very big on eternity and I think allowing herself to be deflowered as a sister would be considered a sin.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Well, the Arishok's declaration of war does make sense considering that he has done absolutely nothing to draw the ire of anyone in Kirkwall and they find cowardly ways to kill off his subordinates


He had by obviously lying and not explaining his intentions, but we're heading way too OT.

I am not sure the Airshok would approve of us talking about him in a romance thread.

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Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 16 mai 2011 - 01:31 .


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WHAT...... IS....... THAT.



Is that.... Sten and the Arishok dancing?

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Personalitywise or personal circumstancewise?


Both.

She is very big on eternity and I think allowing herself to be deflowered as a sister would be considered a sin.

Damn you conflicting bits of information! Otherwise, the personal circumstance bit would be easy enough to get around... hmmm.

It's no use. I can't stop thinking about it. She's not a particularly well-developed character; some way can be found, if we work together.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

WHAT...... IS....... THAT.



Is that.... Sten and the Arishok dancing?


Must be one of thsoe parties that Sten talks about at the end of DA:O. 

Sten: "It is madness"

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Whats interesting to me, talking about this, is... anyone but me think the ability to have either a rivalmance or friendmance with all the characters a little unreaslistic.

In some cases I can see one or the other.  In a few cases (possibly Anders or Isabella) I might see both.

I believe there was a lack of depth in all the characters to one degree or another.  Was this lack of depth necessary in order to allow for all romances to work regardless of gender or rivalry?

Just thinking out loud.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

WHAT...... IS....... THAT.



Is that.... Sten and the Arishok dancing?


Must be one of thsoe parties that Sten talks about at the end of DA:O. 

Sten: "It is madness"


They must've already imbibed their spirits.

Potent stuff.

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Xilizhra wrote...

She's not a particularly well-developed character; some way can be found, if we work together.


I personally thought she was a better developped character than Meredith and Orsino actually. She started out naive in Act 1 and the next time we meet her she's more ruthless.

But ok, let's try.

For some reason that I can't be bothered to expain, Hawke pushes Petrice away from the arrow path, and he gets hit instead (I'd hope he would die and rid us of his existence, but I digress). Petrice is shocked that the person she lied to, manipulated and even tried to kill, for some reason, took an arrow for her. Thus feelings arise that she never really felt before, nor could she understand.

Her infatuation with Hawke increases when he / she defeats the Qunari and becomes champion (despite the injury, but whatever). Since I think Petrice does not want war between mages and Templars, the two collaborate to mediate the conflict and they grow closer and closer. Until...

Cheesy as heck, but that's the best I can come up with.

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#274
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The Anders rivalmance I find extremely unpleasant and somewhat OOC. The only person whose rivalmance actually works, in my opinion, is Sebastian's.

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Paeyne wrote...

Whats interesting to me, talking about this, is... anyone but me think the ability to have either a rivalmance or friendmance with all the characters a little unreaslistic.

In some cases I can see one or the other.  In a few cases (possibly Anders or Isabella) I might see both.

I believe there was a lack of depth in all the characters to one degree or another.  Was this lack of depth necessary in order to allow for all romances to work regardless of gender or rivalry?

Just thinking out loud.





I don't think so. On different playthroughs you're playing as a different Hawke than the last one (to some degree). Likewise, each companion is different than the one from the last playthrough. Think of it like a parallel universe I guess.