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BluGirl1968

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Your very first time playing through Dragon Age 2, did you kill Anders and why or why not?


I confess, I did not kill Anders. I chose him as my lover because I thought he was awefully cute in Awakenings but that, suprisingly enough, was not the reason I could not kill him. I could not kill him because he offered himself up like a human sacrifice. He did not fight. He did not deny or flinch away from death as a solution to all his problems - both perceived and real. Killing him would have been Vengence for the innocents who died at his hands and for Lady Elthina, not Justice. Killing him without a fair battle and without answering the world for his crime would have made me a murderer as well. The issue of Vengence was turned upon me in that moment and I simply could not hate him enough.

Since then I have killed Anders a number of times but it almost never feels right.

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Masako52

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I didn't kill him! Because I like him, and thought it was awesome that he blew up the Chantry.

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Yes, but then I had to reload because no one else had heals and I was playing on Nightmare.

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Yes, I did kill him, and yes it was awful but I played a devil may care rouge who was taken totally by surprise by his actions and didn't see a way around him paying for his actions.

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I killed him, because Justice and Anders were my favorite parts of Awakening. I saw Anders as a genuinely good person who, if he was still in control, would hate what he had become.
Justice was the first video game character that changed my perspective on the crapsack world of Thedas.
I believe that Anders surrendered to his fate willingly because what was left of the easygoing and kind mage desperately wanted his nightmare to end, constantly being compelled to stir the pot and cause so much suffering.
I don't believe I killed Anders, but I do believe that I killed Vengeance and did one final favor to Anders, and giving Justice what he had always wanted: Justice.

Modifié par Ophir147, 04 mai 2011 - 03:58 .


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Ophir said what I feel about Anders in DA2 pretty perfectly. Thanks Ophir, you rule.

Another reason was, I was playing a Mage!Hawke that was a Spirit Healer.. so no practical need for Anders also. I felt that killing him was the simplest, and maybe the most just thing to do. Like hell I'm letting some abomination run around sh!t-stirring things even worse. We already have two other apostates doing that.

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Yep, I killed him.

Unacceptable methods, won't change, no choice, have to kill you, yadda yadda yadda.

EDIT: Oh, and what Ophir said above. The Anders of Dragon Age II is very different from the Anders of Awakening, and in many ways his story is just a seven years long sanity slippage until the point where Justice has taken over completely. 

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 04 mai 2011 - 04:04 .


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Yep my Character killed him.
He felt the "he could become a martyr for the cause" was outweighed by "you can't do this and be allowed to live afterwards"

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I killed him. I was considering letting him live and atone for his actions, but Sebastian dropped the whole army thing on me, and it was "Adios Anders!" *Shank*

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I didn't kill him. Hawke was head-over-heels in love with him. He broke her heart, but she forgave him and they ran off to be apostate-fugitives together.

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Right between the ribs.

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Anders + Murder Knife, 2gether 4ever :wub:

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My character killed him. He wasn't terribly thrilled about killing somebody he had known for years, but thought that Anders had simply finally gone over the deep end/gone too far and it had to be done. He didn't even really hesitate about it.

I thought Anders was an interesting character and didn't really want to kill him, but it would have been very out of character for my character not to have done so.

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I seem to love over-complicating things for myself, don't I? I will kill a party member (that I find incredibly useful and have in my party for the entire game) entirely based on principle. I always have so much trouble with the final boss on Nightmare, but I'll never know if it's because I had no healer or if it's just a freakin' hard fight

Modifié par Ophir147, 04 mai 2011 - 05:24 .


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After about a 5 minute pause to make the choiceI knifed him. It seemed the best possible outcome. He's punished, Justice is possibly freed, Anders is freed from the possession and gets to become a martyr/rallying cry for all mages.

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My first Hawke killed him.  Mostly, she saw it as a mercy since she no longer felt that the man in front of her was her friend Anders, so she saw it as a way of helping both him and Justice find peace.

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hoorayforicecream wrote...

Anders + Murder Knife, 2gether 4ever :wub:

Anders/Murderknife OTP.

Someone needs to write this fanfic.

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Xilizhra

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I spared him. If Sebastian hadn't been complicating things, it wouldn't have even required thought. As it was, it took me a while to decide, but for my first time, I wanted to have Anders with me.

Tonight, I tried killing him, but it was so much less satisfying. As such, I'm pretty sure I'll canonically spare him.

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I didn't kill Anders. He deserved worse punishment: to be denied the right to defend the circle mages. I told him to get the hell out.

Plus I had a personal beef with him for being so incredibly cruel to Merrill.

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In my first and second playthroughs, my Hawkes (both mages, one female and one male) were romancing Anders, so they spared him. My third Hawke (female mage) was romancing Merrill, so she killed Anders (that Hawke was also a blood mage, and paradoxically pro-templar). My current warrior Hawke is romancing Isabela, but he is pro-mage, but I think he will kill Anders out of a sense of justice. I haven't got to that point with him yet though.

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I almost killed him even though I romanced him....but in a player standpoint I knew my Hawke would never be able to bring herself to do it. So I begrudging made him help me save the mages. I have one playthrough saved where in the end she left him at the final scene and refused to continue the relationship and another where she stayed with him~

If we have options in the next game to have some snarky/jerk lines to Anders for that one I will be clicking them however. Whenever I don't romance him I've killed him so far, especially my mage playthroughs. I figure mage!Hawke would be more able to take his place as a beacon of hope for mages, so Anders would need to be out of the way with his more extreme beliefs. Like Cassandra said, only Hawke can stop everything now.

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Nope. I have very little patience for martyrs and JAnders' own form of justice, I'm fond of the guy (and so's my Hawke) and I had little sympathy for the Hightown chantry and the Grand Cleric.

That, and I wasn't surprised. He was a disturbed, passionate man with more problems than you can shake a stick at, asking for salt peter and something named after dragons, then wanting to go to the Chantry. I did his quest near the beginning of Act 3, so I had all of my sidequests to think about my decision. Killing him would have made me uncomfortable.

Besides, I'm curious about what'll happen to him. Less curious about the idea of Justice/Vengeance being stuck in a second dead body with the memories of Anders getting killed by a loved one.

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Didn't kill him the first time purely for gameplay reasons- I only had about 10 Health pots and I literally yelled at the screen "WTF Anders!!!!  In my head I am SO killing you right now!  You live only because I'm pretty sure I'll never beat this w/out a healer."  Since then I kill him every time- but not as a knee jerk reaction like for the 1st playthrough.  I do it now b/c it feels like Anders wants to die.  It was pretty easy to tell something was up w/ him even in the 1st game, but I didn't pick up on his hopelessness quite as much.  Now I sort of imagine my Hawkes (esp my mage Hawke) thinking something like "You say that you did this because it was the only way you could see to drag the rest of the world into your fight- but really you just wanted to be able to die with the feeling that you accomplished something.  Justice won't let you kill yourself, but he must must recognize that stopping me from killing you would be contrary to his own purpose."   I also kinda like to imagine a more heartfelt and understanding "goodbye" after which I punch Sebastian in his smug mouth and set off for the gallows w/out another word.

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In my canon, he lives - part of this is because he wants to die. Whether he had the right of it or not doesn't change the fact that a lot of people are going to get killed in the war he just started. They don't have the opportunity to sit down and decide that yes, a revolution for mages' freedom is worth my life, like Anders does. If they don't get the chance to choose when and how to die, he shouldn't either. Who knows, maybe seeing the consequences for himself will make Justice think twice before merging with more mortals and persuading them to blow **** up again.

More importantly; he was in a romance with my Hawke. She could never hurt a loved one after already losing so many people she holds dear.

Modifié par Queen-Of-Stuff, 04 mai 2011 - 07:01 .


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My Hawke bought the "let him help make up for it by helping prevent Meredith annul all mages needlessly" line. And he didn't feel he had the proper authority or impartiality to be a fair dispenser of justice. Take care of Meredith and give Anders to the guard. At least that would be his plan if he had the choice.