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Anders + Murder Knife, 2gether 4ever :wub:

Anders/Murderknife OTP.

Someone needs to write this fanfic.


roflmao :D


I didn't kill him, but I really, really wanted to.  In the end Merrill's line about allowing him to live to do penance for his crimes was what convinced my Hawke to spare his life.  I didn't like the last conversation with Anders though, it felt like he was trying to say "Thanks for seeing my side!  You totally support what I did!" which I definitely DIDN'T.  I felt his actions were completely unforgiveable, but my Hawke was not the type of person who would see capital punishment as true justice.

I would have LOVED the option to be like, "Ugh you suck but now you have to come with me to make this right, but first I'm going to beat the snot out of you. [Beatings ensure.] Ok I feel a little bit better now."  :D

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my first PT Hawke killed Anders. He was so skewed off and seemed ready to die and was totally out of control [ he seemed to struggle to be himself]. I felt he wanted to die and he really needed to die. I totally adored the character from DAA but in this game it was NOT anders, so if there had been an option to just kill Justice mb I would have, but regardless they both had to be murder knifed. I did rather wish we could have doen the throat slit or a facing stab instead ofthe proverbial stab in the back. that was a a lame way to send a friend and ally off.

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I spent about five minutes looking from him to Sebastian with my 'WHY, BIOWARE??!' face . Then closed my eyes and chose the spare him option.

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Kawamura wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

After he blew up the Chantry full of innocent people, it was completely out of the question to let him go.


I'm sorry. Kettle, have you met pot?

Hawke is doing a lot of killing in the game. It makes it hard to take the moral high road about the number of people Anders killed, I would think, and their relative innocence.


No, it's not hard at all, especially when you consider the kind of "people" Hawke is killing: darkspawn, demons, abominations, blood mages, serial killers, criminals, etc.

And while I can simphatize with mages over their treatment at Meredith's hands, that isn't the fault of Elthina or other priests in the Kirkwall chantry. 

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I spared him, because my character was in a friendship romance with him, and had spent most of the game letting her companions do whatever they wanted so long as they helped her. I did tell him to leave, but he showed up later anyway and it ended the same, as though I had brought him along in the first place.

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Master Shiori wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

After he blew up the Chantry full of innocent people, it was completely out of the question to let him go.


I'm sorry. Kettle, have you met pot?

Hawke is doing a lot of killing in the game. It makes it hard to take the moral high road about the number of people Anders killed, I would think, and their relative innocence.


No, it's not hard at all, especially when you consider the kind of "people" Hawke is killing: darkspawn, demons, abominations, blood mages, serial killers, criminals, etc.

And while I can simphatize with mages over their treatment at Meredith's hands, that isn't the fault of Elthina or other priests in the Kirkwall chantry. 


I would say Hawke's number of dead are far higher and he/she most likely doesn't have the benefit of having run a charity clinic for half a decade. What's that Varric says about Anders nearly killing that mage girl, about the difference being you feel sorry for some deaths? 

I wonder what Elthina did to stop Meredith, though. The Chantry, as I understand it, is still in charge of their military arm. It would have been interesting to see her act more openly.

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I spared him, and I continue to spare him. Partially for great poetic justice, partially because I played a mage Hawke who loathes the templars and Chantry as much as Anders does.

And partially because he's adorable, blonde, scruffy, and sexyfine.

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BluGirl1968 wrote...

Your very first time playing through Dragon Age 2, did you kill Anders and why or why not?


I did--because I thought his actions revealed that he'd lost himself to Justice, and that I was performing a mercy killing. But it felt so awful that I immediately reloaded. Then I told him to get lost. *That* felt crappy too, so I reloaded again. This time I ran off with my lover to be a "freedom fighter," and strangely enough that ending felt kinda okay. So I went with it.

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Siduri wrote...
 This time I ran off with my lover to be a "freedom fighter," and strangely enough that ending felt kinda okay. So I went with it.


Always a good time.  Seriously, I've never had a game in which I end with really little more than the clothes on my back and a crazy apostate boyfriend, and consider that a win.

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I let Anders live in my first play because the puppy eyes he had on when doing his little Human Sacrifice Death Speech was just sooooo cute..... Beyond that bout of silliness:

Tyr Hawke was very much for freeing the Mages... Granted, not in an "at all costs" kind of way like Anders/Justice. While Tyr is more focused on staying alive, as appose to freeing the masses, she knew that someone would eventually rise up for freedom, and when they did a lot of people would die..

She's logical about these things.. If it hadn't been Anders it would've been someone else, and since Anders was in a position to help heal the ugly wounds his poorly thought out plans had cut open she let him live to try and make things right.. She's going to be a slave-driver and have him righting wrongs for the rest of his pitiful existence to make up for all the innocent lives that were lost because of him.

*Thumbs up*

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Yes, I did kill him, and yes it was awful but I played a devil may care rouge who was taken totally by surprise by his actions and didn't see a way around him paying for his actions.

IT"S SPELLED ROGUE!!!!

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BluGirl1968 wrote...

Your very first time playing through Dragon Age 2, did you kill Anders and why or why not?


Nope. My warrior chick (templar at that!) spared Anders and sided with the mages. I do admit to being in a bit of shock from the chantry jenga thing though. I actually did say  "god dammit Anders!" But those puppy eyes on his box of shame.. She couldn't resist them and let him live. And ran off with him at the end..

Did pretty much the opposite on my second play through. Sided with the templars and killed Anders (I covered my eyes haha) and became viscount etc

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My lady Hawke could have never killed Anders, even if she disagreed with the blowing up of the Chantry. She wanted to be a fugitive with him.

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Lol I'm surprised by how much so many of you actually care about him blowing up the Chantry. Please! There were like four people in that place tops, all of them were priests - including the obnoxious and useless grand cleric.

Honestly I took it more of Anders blowing up a building as a political statement. Which was hilariously awesome.

Team Anders, whoo!!

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I killed him. Aside for my Hawke's increasing dislike and distrust for him, he quite simply isn't Anders anymore. He's a bare husk of a person sustained and controlled by what is clearly becoming a demon. I felt bad for him, and I felt that his death would be better overall than his half-life as an abomination.

Though I can see the argument for letting him live as reasonable too, in some cases. ARGH, why can't I make a solid decision?!

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"He wants to die, kill him and be done with it."

Done and done. I didn't agree with his ideals, nor his actions to try and achieve them. I'm very much on Aveline's camp in believing his sincere wish for mages to be free, didn't justify blowing up the chantry and killing the innocent people within it. To me, his actions just fortified what he thought he was trying to disprove. He harps about mages not all being bad, but he blows up a place of worship and kills a figure much of the city relied on and respected. Oh yes, I'm so going to believe mages deserve freedom now. Bullsh*t meter going off the charts. He can go on believing he died a martyr, but all he was, was a terrorist to me. Plus, I didn't need him and he pissed me off too many times to even consider letting him live. Shanked him then and shanked him after over and over again. Plus, I don't trust a man who can create bombs out of sh*t.

In terms of my Hawke, she felt utterly betrayed by his actions. He was her friend, though by the end, their friendship turned sour. Still, she thought she at least owed him her life for helping her brother survive. She gave him the benefit of the doubt, always leading a helpful hand and even supporting in his cause up to a certain point. His lie about the potion to separate Vengence(I don't refer to him as Justice anymore) and he, set off some alarms and she refused to take any part of whatever he was planning. Then, when he blew up the Chantry, she saw his actions as condemning her and other mages, not freeing them. She held no pity for the monster he became, just anger and guilt for not stopping him earlier. He deserved to die in her eyes, for the innocents he killed and the innocents that would eventually be killed due to his actions.

My playthrough with another one of my Hawkes, one that romance him, is at a standstill, cuz I'm not sure that to do with him at the end... I've been shanking him in every other playthrough, but I think I need at least one where I let him live. I will always love the Anders that we were first introduced to in Awakening, but the one he's changed into is just not my cup of tea.

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Let's see... I just finished my 7th play through earlier today and for the 7th consective time... I shanked him...and will be shanking him in every play through hear on out...the dude simply desrves to die( Hell, I even go so far as to boot his behind outa my party after his act 2 quest 'dissent' nowadays) and it doesn't help the fact that EVERY SINGLE one of my characters have had him at 100% rivalry with 0 chance of him getting with them( in the Lady Hawke's cases) either...and yes, vengeance(which is what i refer to that demon as well) needs to dies as well...Justice in awakenings was great but vengeance....is something completely different...along with Anders(whom I wasn't impressed with in awakenings either).

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Kill him every time. His constant whining about templars and mages gets really tiresome. Blowing up the Chantry just gave me a legitimate reason to introduce him to my murder knife.

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My first playthrough I romanced Anders and I didn't have enough friendship with Fenris to keep him :<. I disliked that playthrough, so I deleted it and started over XD.

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My first play through was a COMPLETE mess. I was trying to romance Sebastian but I brought him with me everywhere and never managed to get his friend/rivalry past 50% cause I was always letting mages go but also being nice. ~_~
When Anders blew up the Chantry I was like "WUT" and even though I didn't romance him I still really liked him. While it was a surprise, I didn't really... care. Kirkwall was a cesspool and was doomed anyways. I respected that Anders had the guts to actually take a stand and do something about it, since no one else was. No one was going to. Elthina was going to stay on the sidelines, Orsino and Meredith would just keep fighting and ignoring all of Hawke's attempts at helping. Things needed to change.

Honestly what made me decide to spare Anders was when Sebastian demanded I kill him. Maybe it's my defiant personality... but someone telling Hawke to kill a friend that she had known for 7ish years? That's a little cruel. Damn Sebastian being so impulsive, after all that time it's obvious he hadn't learned a thing from Elthina. I loved all the companions though(which I've noticed most people don't...), and even though Fenris wasn't my favorite I hated having to kill him.
I firmly believe in second chances though, and I just couldn't kill Anders. So I told him to go away. OF COURSE he came back to the Gallows anyways and when he did I just couldn't turn him away again. Augh I'm too nice...

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I let him go, I couldn't bring myself to execute him; he really was my girl's 'precious Anders' (even if she didn't romance him) as Sebastian called him. But... then the fool came back and picked a fight with her, because she sided with the Templars. So we had to take him out. :( Poor Anders...

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I spared him. My first Hawke was in a romance with him and had known him for seven years, so he wasn't about to throw Anders to the wolves. I have to admit, since I played the game unspoiled, I was quite shocked by the Chantry explosion, especially as Elthina seemed pretty decent (by Chantry standards). But I am also a believer in redemption - I always took Loghain in Origins and Anders always lives in DA2. Sebastian can kiss my derriere.

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I was unspoilered and a total fangirl on my first run. I was so excited about the potion that I blew right through the suspicion--I just figured it was a lot more dangerous and likely to kill him than he was letting on. And he slid off into madness all through Act 3 (and never did move in, stupid glitch) and then ka-blam. Then he asked me to kill him.

I believe my exact words were, "Justice you son of a ****!" Then I killed him. I was so mad that my next run I left him in the clinic the whole game and jumped on Fenris. It took me three full runs after that to decide that I should give him another chance. But now he's my favorite character. 'Course his thread has a lot to do with that. too.

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<--- this guy killed him. why? he may be a sarcastic ass and a mage supporter but he does not tolerate terrorism.

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Anders' actions may have been vile, and terrorism is never justified, but I believe that he deserves a chance at atonement. Furthermore, I think that the mages will require some form of leader to serve as inspiration during their rebellion, and that Anders can fulfill this role perfectly, alongside my mage Hawke.