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[Maria Caliban]

1. They are easily the most powerful class in the game.

2. You get two NPC mages, who disagree about everything.

3. Even on the easiest difficulty, there are fights where their AOE spells are nessary, such as the 'back alley' bandit quests in Denerim.

One or two of these, would be difficult but fine, but I find the combination of all three incredably frustrating.

[TileToad]

What are nurf mages?

[Tennmuerti]

1. Yes. But any class played with skill can be very effectinve in DA:O



2. That's kind of the point. If you want the power of npc 2 mages in your party you have to try to balance your act and try to kep them together.



3. False. There are no fights where AoE is necessary. No single tactic or class is necessary to play DA:O. My first time playing was with only 1 mage Wynn who only healed. I had 1 AoE spell (earthquake) which i used maybe a total of 3 times. There are people soloing this game with rogues...

[kroosaydur]

ya for alot of the game i would go me(2h warrior) allistar as tank, wynn and lelianna and it was doable, really hard but doable. then i finally brought morrigan isntead of leliana and the game was so much easier.

i also wouldnt mind mages being so powerful if warriors werent so useless at the same time.

[marshalleck]

Tennmuerti wrote...

There are people soloing this game with rogues...

Nurf mages and rogues imo.

[Haasth]

Just boost everything else. If you ask me.

[Draguling]

You're all nerfed in the head.

[T1nk3rb311]

I agree mages are really powerful. I don't even use their AOE spells but once in a blue moon.

[Tennmuerti]

Mages need to be nerfed in this mmo because they keep killing me in pvp ...

[Raisthlin Arckon]

ive soloed those back alleys as well all the whole game on hard. I have no idea what your talking about

[Beowulf1990]

@Arckon: that's because they don't know what they're talking about.



Mages seem to be more powerful to them simply because they are EASY to play. Just slap on a couple primal spells and click on the enemy and you're set.



Warriors and Rogues on the other hand need to pay a lot of attention to their skill development (more so than mages at least) and are constantly worrying about relative positions and skill combinations in battle.

[Wishpig]

Tennmuerti wrote...

Mages need to be nerfed in this mmo because they keep killing me in pvp ...

ZING!

I have a party of 3 warriors (two DPS builds, one tank), and simi healer/debuffer morrigan. I switch off mainly between normal and hard, and have very little difficulty if I actually use my brain.

I'll admit I blasted through Orz on easy... but thats cause I wanted Oghren in my group asap... and Orz is f*in HARD.

Lol, pretty funny how much easier they made easy mode though, I made it threw Orz without dying once.

[Raisthlin Arckon]

Beowulf1990 wrote...

@Arckon: that's because they don't know what they're talking about.

Mages seem to be more powerful to them simply because they are EASY to play. Just slap on a couple primal spells and click on the enemy and you're set.

Warriors and Rogues on the other hand need to pay a lot of attention to their skill development (more so than mages at least) and are constantly worrying about relative positions and skill combinations in battle.

i see. but still one would expect people to read the damm skills definition and use some tactics while playing

[Brigonos]

Nerf idiots who complain about balance in a single player game.

[Raisthlin Arckon]

Brigonos wrote...

Nerf idiots who complain about balance in a single player game.

hahaha LMFAO   best reply of the week !

[Skellimancer]

Sure is arcane warrior in here.

[Damar Stiehl]

No, nerf warlcox asap imo, 2 OP.

[Knox1776]

OP has played too much WoW.

[Haasth]

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

I keep getting owned by this resto druids in the arena... wait wrong forum.

Why are we talking about "nerfing" and "OP" in a single player game?

I want a Resto Druid. Why is there no Druid specialization in this game? I have lost faith in BioWare.
Come on. How awesome would a shapeshift-into-tree be? 

Modifié par Haasth, 19 novembre 2009 - 02:26 .

[Balraw]

Raisthlin Arckon wrote...

Brigonos wrote...

Nerf idiots who complain about balance in a single player game.

hahaha LMFAO   best reply of the week !

QFT. 

If you don't like using AOE spells or think they are overpowered don't use it and adjust your tactics accordingly.  I have for instance locked down large groups with carefully placed traps and/or stuns of various types.  Sure you have to work a bit harder but therein lies the challenge

[BewareTheDrow]

Brigonos wrote...

Nerf idiots who complain about balance in a single player game.

/thread

[SheffSteel]

Why complain about balance in a single player game? Because this game (Origins, remember?) is supposed to have replay value based on playing different origins, only one of which is Mage; because taking a different origin should not have the same effect as changing the difficulty level; because when discussing difficulty in these forums it's bad enough having to ask what difficulty level every contributor is on, and if they're playing on PC or console... without also having to find out how many mages are in their party.



Game design is about balance and interdependence of variables. Some variables are independent, some are not, and some ought to be independent but are not.



In this case I think the solution would be to add (or re-add?) stamina potions to create more of a level playing field between mages and non-mages. If that makes the overall game too easy, then global adjustments such as we saw in patch 1.01 can correct that.

[Arsaidh]

Maria Caliban wrote...

1. They are easily the most powerful class in the game.

2. You get two NPC mages, who disagree about everything.

3. Even on the easiest difficulty, there are fights where their AOE spells are nessary, such as the 'back alley' bandit quests in Denerim.

One or two of these, would be difficult but fine, but I find the combination of all three incredably frustrating.

"Necessary" must mean something different to you than it does to me. I got through the entire game without using a single AoE damage spell. Not one, not once.