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[christrek1982]

as I have said in othe threads I think the dlc will be prity poor this is not because the game is bad or that bioware will set out to make a cheap product but because the starongest part of DA 2 is it's comps and people around Hawke. so that being said unless there is DLC that progress the companions (Merrill Avaline and so on) then I don’t hold up muchhope.

as for DA3 and expansion packs. (if there is one) I hope we don’t play as Hawke asit would be unlikely that any of the comps will be back and its not hawkes story if he cant continue the LI in short (for me atleast) Hawke without Merrill = likely no buy. after all they tried it with Awakening and although i played it it felt empty with no LI (Lilliana). And being unable to interact with your companions properly.

on that note I have no interest in playing the Warden again as in my cannon play through my warden is dead hence the story is finished Morigan went away to lookfor a powerful host to posses cos she's a ****. sten died at kerkwall at Hawke's hand as generic solder of the quan Zevren is on the run from the crows Lilliana is an assassin of god(the maker) alister is king wyne I have no idea as she is not mentioned likely dead

so bring on the new charicters and story as far as I can say and lets let all the other rest in peace

Modifié par christrek1982, 04 mai 2011 - 07:18 .

[lrrose]

The Sten of the Beresaad who travelled with the Hero of Ferelden wasn't at Kirkwall. All of the Stens that Hawke fights have horns. The Sten that we know doesn't (even after the qunari redesign).

[cdtrk65]

I want Hawke to return...:S

[Giltspur]

You mention that the companions are the strongest part of the game. For me, that's true of every Bioware game (and why I was so underwhelmed with Neverwinter Nights). DA2 didn't have Morrigan, Alistair, Zevran and Leliana in great amounts. I never knew Merrill, Varric, Isabela and Aveline going into DA2. But by the time DA2 was over I liked them a great deal. Even with new characters in DLC or DA3 Bioware could create new characters that rival the old ones.

I think the problem with the Awakenings companion wasn't that they weren't the DAO companions. I think the issue was that they weren't given enough to do. So they felt flat in comparison to DAO's. If they'd given their personalities more wrinkles, then I think they could have all been compelling. Awakenings was too short to show off new NPC's properly. So maybe it's a good idea when DLC's or expansions to bank on nostalgia and bring back some of the old crew.  So I suppose I agree that I'd like to see the companions continue in DA2 in DLC or an expansion.  But that's just my initial guess as to what's best.  Bioware could always do better than they did in Awakenings and surprise me.

Modifié par Giltspur, 04 mai 2011 - 06:51 .

[christrek1982]

lrrose wrote...

The Sten of the Beresaad who travelled with the Hero of Ferelden wasn't at Kirkwall. All of the Stens that Hawke fights have horns. The Sten that we know doesn't (even after the qunari redesign).

fair point true I stand corrected

[Faroth]

I'd like the option of playing a new Warden or bringing the Hero back if you accepted the Dark Ritual for another story. But it would need to be a story that made sense to involve the Wardens.

DA3, I'd personally be interested in a new protagonist, set in vibrant, colorful Orlais, with little connection from Origins or DA2 outside of the Circle/Templar conflict having begun.

Orlais would offer a lot of political intrigue and could really get interesting without a massive "save the world" epic. I think it would be a better setting for the type of contained story DA2 was attempting as well.

[christrek1982]

Giltspur wrote...

You mention that the companions are the strongest part of the game. For me, that's true of every Bioware game (and why I was so underwhelmed with Neverwinter Nights). DA2 didn't have Morrigan, Alistair, Zevran and Leliana in great amounts. I never knew Merrill, Varric, Isabela and Aveline going into DA2. But by the time DA2 was over I liked them a great deal. Even with new characters in DLC or DA3 Bioware could create new characters that rival the old ones.

I think the problem with the Awakenings companion wasn't that they weren't the DAO companions. I think the issue was that they weren't given enough to do. So they felt flat in comparison to DAO's. If they'd given their personalities more wrinkles, then I think they could have all been compelling. Awakenings was too short to show off new NPC's properly. So maybe it's a good idea when DLC's or expansions to bank on nostalgia and bring back some of the old crew.

I have no issue with new people so long as there is a new hero just as the warden and his/her companions are a full packege the same stands for hawke. it didn't feel the same playing as the warden but not haveing any of the origanal people with him/her same went for sheperd and no dout the same will go for hawke.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

I didn't much care for Awakening. I only played it the once whereas I've played Origins a few times. Not having the old companions was my main issue with it, where was Fluffy (Warden's dog) and Leliana? We end up getting Oghren instead, the fan favourite(!) I kind of get it if they didn't want to make one of the Origins LIs a companion because people that romanced someone else would be miffed, but I would have preferred Wynne or Sten instead of Oghren.

I'm not sure what they're gonna do with a DA2 DLC. Will they set it after the events of DA2 or before or during? I'd quite like something similar to Leliana's Song (was that its name?). I would also like a Meredith DLC so we can see what she was like before the idol made her go mental.

[IanPolaris]

I expect there will be one or two slopplily done DLCs to cover some of the holes during the 7 year period (and thus involve Hawke) but otherwise, I increasingly suspect that this franchise is dead.

-Polaris

[christrek1982]

IanPolaris wrote...

I expect there will be one or two slopplily done DLCs to cover some of the holes during the 7 year period (and thus involve Hawke) but otherwise, I increasingly suspect that this franchise is dead.

-Polaris

is DA dead? I hope not afterall DA 2 wasn't a bad game and in some ways was better then DA 1 IE more intresting companions a darker story but at the same time i felt as though i had no impact on the events it told a good story but it did feel as thogh it was on rails (no way to save your mother no way to stop Merrill and the morror no way to find a peacefull way to solve the qunari issue). but at the same time i felt more emotionally  involved in DA 2 than DAO

Modifié par christrek1982, 04 mai 2011 - 07:32 .

[IanPolaris]

christrek1982 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

I expect there will be one or two slopplily done DLCs to cover some of the holes during the 7 year period (and thus involve Hawke) but otherwise, I increasingly suspect that this franchise is dead.

-Polaris

is DA dead? I hope not afterall DA 2 wasn't a bad game and in some ways was better then DA 1 IE more intresting companions a darker story but at the same time i felt as though i had no impact on the events it told a good story but it did feel as thogh it was on rails (no way to save your mother no way to stop Merrill and the morror no way to find a peacefull way to solve the qunari issue). but at the same time i felt more emotionally  involved in DA 2 than DAO

I think DA might be dead (note the hypotheticals) because it seems to be following the sales curve of other failed games that were sequels to very good ones with very loyal followings.  While in no way nearly as bad, the sales curve for DA2 looks suspiciously similiar to the sales curve for the failed Masters of Orion 3 which killed that franchise.

-Polaris

[christrek1982]

well i have no idea as to saile and although sails are likely one of the most importand factors of a sequal it's not the only one. for example what was the last sonic game that you played?

sonic on the dreamcast for me.

ok ok mabe im cluching at straws lol

[Cape Mario]

Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

IWe end up getting Oghren instead, the fan favourite(!) I kind of get it if they didn't want to make one of the Origins LIs a companion because people that romanced someone else would be miffed, but I would have preferred Wynne or Sten instead of Oghren.

I think the reason we got Oghren in Awakening is because if you followed the perscribed route, you got him very close to the end of the game, compared to everyone else whom you basically had once you got out of Lothering. Wynne joined the party in the Circle Tower, which was apparently intended to be the first main quest you did after leaving Lothering (though Alistair points you to Redcliff...).

And Shale doesn't count 'cause DLC.

Ontopic:
I for one would like to see a Hawke/Warden team up as DLC. I'm sure they can find SOMEway to transfer the Warden's appearance through into the new engine. Though Elven Wardens would look quite different, and female Dwarven Wardens would need an entire model created for them.

On that note, am I the only one who didn't mind the elven redesign? It was a bit jarring at first, but I got used to it and I think it works.

[Ivers0803]

The Elven redesign is fine but more effort needs to be put in making their faces. Some elves looked perfectly fine while some others didn't. Maybe to bring the warden back you could just have the warden's appearance change. You could have all of your warden's choices imported but just recreate their face. Kinda like the mirror in the black emporium. If a voice actor is needed they could either go the expensive route, a voice for each sex and race or pick 2 voices that could work for all races

Modifié par Ivers0803, 04 mai 2011 - 09:15 .

[Rawgrim]

The elves looked like the elf creature in the harry potter movies.

[Kenshen]

Cape Mario wrote...

Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

IWe end up getting Oghren instead, the fan favourite(!) I kind of get it if they didn't want to make one of the Origins LIs a companion because people that romanced someone else would be miffed, but I would have preferred Wynne or Sten instead of Oghren.

I think the reason we got Oghren in Awakening is because if you followed the perscribed route, you got him very close to the end of the game, compared to everyone else whom you basically had once you got out of Lothering. Wynne joined the party in the Circle Tower, which was apparently intended to be the first main quest you did after leaving Lothering (though Alistair points you to Redcliff...).

And Shale doesn't count 'cause DLC.

Ontopic:
I for one would like to see a Hawke/Warden team up as DLC. I'm sure they can find SOMEway to transfer the Warden's appearance through into the new engine. Though Elven Wardens would look quite different, and female Dwarven Wardens would need an entire model created for them.

On that note, am I the only one who didn't mind the elven redesign? It was a bit jarring at first, but I got used to it and I think it works.

We won't be seeing the warden in any DA2 DLC or expan for the reason you listed though I do agree that it would be sweet to see Hawke and Warden team up.  My thinking at least some of the DLC (I supect 4 total) will be filler for the years the game skipped.  My hope is we get one that is a follow up where the game ended.  I think it would be cool to team up with Cassandra and Lel or better yet get to fight them!  Ok I am probably one of the few who wants that.

I like the elf redesign at times and others not so much.  I just don't understand how they could look so different but if they have a kid with a human the kid is human looking.  I doubt that would hold true in the RL but lucky for us this is a fantasy world.

[Foolsfolly]

DA's not dead.

I'm positive this game turned a profit and if anyone buys any of the DLC it'll continue to make money.

There's also that Felica Day webseries and an anime movie coming. And those will likely get some viewers.

There will be a DA3. I just hope it's much better than DA2.

[LobselVith8]

cdtrk65 wrote...

I want Hawke to return...:S

Luke mentioned they are working on some DLC:

Luke Barrett wrote...



Obviously I'm not at liberty to discuss anything in detail about any upcoming story DLC but I'll say a few things that will hopefully sate your curiousity for now

First of all, it's awesome. Yup. Awesome.
Secondly, we're ensuring that it is of the utmost quality when it is finally released and as such have really taken our time to incorporate all the feedback we've been receiving from the forums and make changes/additions accordingly.
Third, it's awesome. Did I mention that?

We will have more information on it as gets closer to release but don't expect anything too soon; the patch and game quality are top priority.

[IanPolaris]

Yeah and personally I suspect how well this DLC (when it's released) may well make or break DA as a future franchise. If the DLC is poorly received, I can easily see EA just giving it up as a dog's meal.

-Polaris

[frustratemyself]

I hope the DA franchise doesn't die out yet, I loved DA2. Yes it has its issues but it's still a great game.
In the future DLC or games seeing the original warden would probably be too difficult for the reasons others stated above. Also with mods that people use to be able to further customise their character's appearance god knows what you could end up with on import. We'll likely see Hawke again or a new protagonist (possibly another warden).

Modifié par frustratemyself, 05 mai 2011 - 04:20 .

[Davro]

Even if your warden is gone, they could always approach the idea of having another warden like from Orlais. Like in Awakening if your warden dies you can have an Orlesian Warden

As for DA dying out....I would be wrecked and scarred for the rest of my life. I also can understand  why they gave us new characters in Expansions like Anders in Awakening. Also it's pretty hard to bring back old companions because they are probably dead in other peoples play through. As for me I was kind of annoyed to see Zeveran again, because I killed him on sight after his assasination failed lol

Modifié par Davro, 05 mai 2011 - 05:19 .

[White_Buffalo94]

christrek1982 wrote...

as I have said in othe threads I think the dlc will be prity poor this is not because the game is bad or that bioware will set out to make a cheap product but because the starongest part of DA 2 is it's comps and people around Hawke. so that being said unless there is DLC that progress the companions (Merrill Avaline and so on) then I don’t hold up muchhope.

as for DA3 and expansion packs. (if there is one) I hope we don’t play as Hawke asit would be unlikely that any of the comps will be back and its not hawkes story if he cant continue the LI in short (for me atleast) Hawke without Merrill = likely no buy. after all they tried it with Awakening and although i played it it felt empty with no LI (Lilliana). And being unable to interact with your companions properly.

on that note I have no interest in playing the Warden again as in my cannon play through my warden is dead hence the story is finished Morigan went away to lookfor a powerful host to posses cos she's a ****. sten died at kerkwall at Hawke's hand as generic solder of the quan Zevren is on the run from the crows Lilliana is an assassin of god(the maker) alister is king wyne I have no idea as she is not mentioned likely dead

so bring on the new charicters and story as far as I can say and lets let all the other rest in peace

Sten isn't dead. If you listened to a shred of his companion banter, you would know that "Sten" is a rank, therefore there are hundreds more like him.
Second, you seem hard to impress

[White_Buffalo94]

IanPolaris wrote...

Yeah and personally I suspect how well this DLC (when it's released) may well make or break DA as a future franchise. If the DLC is poorly received, I can easily see EA just giving it up as a dog's meal.

-Polaris

Their fault for pushing **** out before it is ready
EDIT: No pun intended

Modifié par White_Buffalo94, 05 mai 2011 - 05:40 .

[Daishar Vneef]

I really want to find out what happens if I follow Morrigan in Awakening so I hope we revisit the Hero again. What would be really interesting is to have a storyline going where Hawke and the Hero are both trying to save the world at the same time with them crossing paths; like both of them being in Dennerim at the same time. Maybe some of Hawkes followers help the Hero and vice a versa. Maybe, just maybe, the Hero gets a voice...