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Is Ashley Williams racist?


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Rusted Cage

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I know the root of her prejudices are explained in the first game, her family history and the like, but come ME2 one of her few pieces of dialogue is "I'm no fan of aliens..." It's not as if she hasn't had the opportunity to change her views in light of the non-human crew's efforts to defeat Saren. Rather, Ash's views are deeply held beliefs, just like Shepard said.

It seems that her views haven't changed much in the two years since the Normandy's destruction. Now rumour has it that she's become a Spectre, will this appointment alter her political opinions?

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really? How many of these will there be? Just curious...so I can store my answer in a txt file and just copy and paste.

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No. She's a cautious "nationalist" and rightfully so. 35 years as part of the greater galactic community remember? Asari, Salarians, and Turians have been in power for millennia. Who really knows how they feel about the "human" upstarts? Cautious is the way to go.

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Not again :(

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TobiTobsen

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This thread is new and interesting.

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Kronner

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Who isn't.

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1Minsc1

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Raanz wrote...

really? How many of these will there be? Just curious...so I can store my answer in a txt file and just copy and paste.


me too
 
@ Rusted Cage
When i said "i´am no fan of [whatever]" does this implied i have a negative attitude to this [somewhat]?
By the way this is "discussed" in more than one other threads

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Shadow_82

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Yeah I'm excited to see one of these threads again<_<Posted Image

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LadyJaneGrey

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Here you go.

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Rusted Cage wrote...

I know the root of her prejudices are explained in the first game, her family history and the like, but come ME2 one of her few pieces of dialogue is "I'm no fan of aliens..." It's not as if she hasn't had the opportunity to change her views in light of the non-human crew's efforts to defeat Saren. Rather, Ash's views are deeply held beliefs, just like Shepard said.

It seems that her views haven't changed much in the two years since the Normandy's destruction. Now rumour has it that she's become a Spectre, will this appointment alter her political opinions?

I'm no fan of Tali, but I still like her character and take her on missions and make her survive the SM
I'm no fan of Garrus but the same applies to him.

Ashley's NEVER been racist so why would she start after working with Wrex, Tali, Garrus, and Liara. Her "I'm no fan of aliens" is based on a comparison to her views vs the extremeism shown by Cerberus.

also Obligatory "oh this thread again" alsoPosted Image

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Shadow_82 wrote...

Yeah I'm excited to see one of these threads again<_<Posted Image



You took the words right out of my mouth.....<_<

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skcih-deraj

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We're all a little bit racist

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Golden Owl

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skcih-deraj wrote...

We're all a little bit racist


Why do you say that?

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skcih-deraj

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Golden Owl wrote...

skcih-deraj wrote...

We're all a little bit racist


Why do you say that?

Posted Image You've never seen Avenue Q have you?

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Golden Owl

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skcih-deraj wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

skcih-deraj wrote...

We're all a little bit racist


Why do you say that?

Posted Image You've never seen Avenue Q have you?


??? no...:?...:(...never heard of it.

Modifié par Golden Owl, 05 mai 2011 - 04:11 .


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skcih-deraj

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Golden Owl wrote...

skcih-deraj wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

skcih-deraj wrote...

We're all a little bit racist


Why do you say that?

Posted Image You've never seen Avenue Q have you?


??? no...:?...:(


Tis a play... a very funny and true play...Posted Image



Thats the song I was quoting. (listen if you so please)

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Golden Owl

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skcih-deraj wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

skcih-deraj wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

skcih-deraj wrote...

We're all a little bit racist


Why do you say that?

Posted Image You've never seen Avenue Q have you?


??? no...:?...:(


Tis a play... a very funny and true play...Posted Image



Thats the song I was quoting. (listen if you so please)


You made me listen to that...:blink:....:?....:unsure:....:blush:....:huh:....:)....:happy:...Cute, you have a point

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After that song I had to listen to the @sshole song to even things back out.

Edit:  The bad thing about this thread [other than the issue being talked about in 3 active threads] is that I wanted to discuss Ash's potential growth since ME1 and I was wondering if & how that would be shown in ME3 ....  This thread has pretty much sucked the will out of me to discuss that now ...

Modifié par Alamar2078, 05 mai 2011 - 04:55 .


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Alamar2078 wrote...

After that song I had to listen to the @sshole song to even things back out.

Edit:  The bad thing about this thread [other than the issue being talked about in 3 active threads] is that I wanted to discuss Ash's potential growth since ME1 and I was wondering if & how that would be shown in ME3 ....  This thread has pretty much sucked the will out of me to discuss that now ...



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I have a fresh idea:

How about Ashley fans pretend they admit Ashley is racist, but they don't give a rat's ass about that, because Ashley is awesome even in spite of that. Or because of that. Then lol at Ashley haters raging about a bunch of racist freaks the Ashley's fans are and getting banned because of that.

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What's amazing is that Ashley has pretty much been gone since ME1 with a brief stint on Horizon, if she survived Virmire .... and I swear there seems to be more threads about her than even Shepard.

For that alone I really like her! She is the Angelina/Britney of the ME world! You go girl! Posted Image

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

I have a fresh idea:

How about Ashley fans pretend they admit Ashley is racist, but they don't give a rat's ass about that, because Ashley is awesome even in spite of that. Or because of that. Then lol at Ashley haters raging about a bunch of racist freaks the Ashley's fans are and getting banned because of that.


taken by an other thread

1Minsc1 wrote

mrsph wrote...

You can be a racist and still dislike extremist groups that go to far you know.

My opinion is that Ash is racist. But it isn't that big of a deal. It's a character flaw, and character flaws make characters, well, characters.


Now
this is really interesting. I´am german and in germany being racist implies to be highly morally reprehensible, it´s much more than a character flaw. Thought we (germans) learnt our lesson, i hope so.


and it is simply wrong. Check the definition of "racist"!

Modifié par 1Minsc1, 05 mai 2011 - 05:28 .


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No. She's far too friendly with and genuinely curious about her alien teammates to be prejudiced.

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PMC65 wrote...

What's amazing is that Ashley has pretty much been gone since ME1 with a brief stint on Horizon, if she survived Virmire .... and I swear there seems to be more threads about her than even Shepard.

For that alone I really like her! She is the Angelina/Britney of the ME world! You go girl! Posted Image


Ash needs no cosmetic surgery, i think she would be a little insulted.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

No. She's far too friendly with and genuinely curious about her alien teammates to be prejudiced.


I don´t get the point. Evereyone who´s prejudiced is a racist?