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How can someone be racist and hate a pro-human organisation becuase they're racist? That doesn't make any sense. She hate's both Cerberus and Terra firma becuase of both groups racism.

She shoots Wrex if Shepard cant calm him, that's nothing to do with race, that's her doing her duty as a soldier. ''Be ready'' When Shepard said that before he spoke to Wrex, he was telling Ash ''get ready to kill him if I cant calm him down''

The only aliens she is worried about on the Normandy is Wrex and Garrus (and this is just when they come aboard, so she hasn't got to know them yet) and thats becuase Krogan are naturally agressive, and humanity fought a war with the Turians. Her distrust is logical, not racist. She doesn't worry about Tali and Liara.

The dog and bear analogy: Humanity was the dog, and the council was the human sicking the dog on the bear (The Reapers) Alot of people got this the wrong way round.

She works well with the Salarians on Virmire, and respects there skill, and she admires the power of the Ascension. She also loves the wards, and want's to buy a place there, now why would a racist love and want to live in such a multicultural place?

Liara: Ash just feels jealous of Liara, she clearly doesn't hate her. Ashley worries about Liara after Benezia dies, and she realizes that Liara is very attractive ''Damn, I hope I look that good when i'm your age!'' And she feels sorry for Liara if you get the confrontation and pick Ashley ''No one want's to feel like they're not good enough''

Tali: Ashley never say's anything bad to Tali, she even tells Tali that ''Hopefully having you help bring down Saren, will stop some humans from blaiming the Quarians for the Geth'' (something like that)

''I cant tell the animals from the aliens'' You tell me Hanar dont look like jellyfish? She wasn't being racist.

So no, she is not racist. I would say it is more appropriate to say Ashley is a compex character, and that is only a good thing.


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Shes racist.

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Quole wrote...

Shes racist.


Elaborate.

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Mesina2 wrote...

Quole wrote...

Shes racist.


Elaborate.


Well she kills Wrex and is totally mean to Liara. Image IPB

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PrinceLionheart wrote...

Well she kills Wrex and is totally mean to Liara. Image IPB


I can't believe that somehow who has "I <3 Ashley Williams" in his signiture says that she is a racist. 

Read Funkcase post again. He explains it all very clear.

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Revan92 wrote...

PrinceLionheart wrote...

Well she kills Wrex and is totally mean to Liara. Image IPB


I can't believe that somehow who has "I <3 Ashley Williams" in his signiture says that she is a racist. 

Read Funkcase post again. He explains it all very clear.


"That was a joke":wizard:

Modifié par BornFree87, 08 mai 2011 - 11:29 .


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She's clearly racist.

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I seriously have no idea how this bull**** started.

OMG SHE DOESN'T LIKE THE ALIENS HANGING AROUND THE NORMANDY!!!!!!

THE NORMANDY IS A TOP OF THE LINE SHIP. IT IS LITERALLY THE ONLY ADVANTAGE HUMANS HAVE OVER THE OTHER RACES. ESPECIALLY TURIANS.

So let's see, we have a infiltrator who's species was once at war with humanity, a mercenary who puts his people before anything else, a hacker/engineer who spends all day staring at the engines, and the daughter of your sworn enemy's henchman.

YEAH, I SAY WE LET THEM HANG OUT NEAR THE ****ING STEALTH BOMBER. TAKE PICTURES, WHY DON'T YOU?

Let's make an analogy. Would you invite a Russian, a Korean, a Cuban, and an Iranian inside the Pentagon, and let them near all the fighter jets, missiles silos, etc.? Of course not. So why would you let aliens inside the Normandy?

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I'm more surprised that there are no more racists around. Humans seem to be total apologists, bowing to aliens when they get the chance. Play tough when among humans, follow Council orders when not.

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Golden Owl wrote...

Rusted Cage wrote...

Golden Owl, I like your post and your point about ignorance. However, is it fair to say Ashley remains ignorant and her viewpoints unchanged depite the passage of two years?

Could it not be argued that while she may have been ignorant at the start of Mass Effect, the elapsed time between attack on the Citadel and the Collector assault on Horizon is ample for her opinions to have changed?

It's easy forgive ignorance once a person has learned the eror of their ways, yet not so easy if somebody makes a conscious decision.

Speaking of forgiveness, please could everyone forgive me for creating this thread? Pretty please? Pretty please with sugar on top?


That one of the points though Rusted Cage....She appears not to have grown over the 2 years...I don't know how different the conversations are with her on Horizon, depending on LI choices, morality choices, etc...I run a paragon Shep and did not romance Ash...Ash states in her Horizon conversation with him that she is "No fan of Aliens"....that sealed the deal for me that Ash does have issues with Aliens, not just mere jealousy....Sorry, very early in the morning here, still trying to warm up, trying to ram brain into gear, so could be a bit rusty at the moment.


Ashley if convinced to give them a chance, probably reverts back to her "Don't put your faith in them" views, due to the fact that when Shepard died, the council started retracting their opinion of Shepard, by calling him/her delusional, crazy etc.
Shepard went out of his way to save them and they start insulting him, the moment he's gone.

That's the way I see it.

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Yate wrote...
So let's see, we have a infiltrator who's species was once at war with humanity, a mercenary who puts his people before anything else, a hacker/engineer who spends all day staring at the engines, and the daughter of your sworn enemy's henchman.


Garrus is a C-Sec Cop, and his species helped develop the Normandy so why is Ash worried about him?
Yeah being worried abot Wrex is understandable, But why doesn't she have any concerns over Tali?

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Ash is NOT a racist! If an alien saved her a** when she was up against a wall then she would totally die for said alien.

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I want to stay with Ashley, but it is really hard to find other Ashley fans anywhere. This whole misconception of her being racist makes it really hard to have my Shepard stay with her, if you can't beat them then join them, right?

But I don't want to join them, but at the same time I feel so alienated while discussing Mass Effect Romance with another fan. There's always that urge to join the hate and pick another romance option, I don't know what to do.