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[fightright2]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

fightright2 wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

fightright2 wrote...

He went to bed.

We'll squeeze it out of him tomorrow.

Til' then, I remain hopeful for it.

I bet he's tired from doing the Till-hammer all day. Poor nepp...

After that much violation, you know he's sleeping well tonight. Then again...maybe not.

I stole his pants

No tent for him then!

[Elhanan]

fightright2 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Weren't there several developer posts and and streaming chats that stated there would be no expansions? Just DLC.

Now I'm gonna go cry in a corner. Story DLC or not, DAII NEEDS an expansion. Pretty please!

THIS!!! I agree wholeheartedly with you Persephone.
That makes two pretty pleases.

Could find nada on Google; anyone?

[ChickenDownUnder]

As part of its announcement of results from the fourth quarter of its
fiscal year, EA revealed that Crysis 2, Dragon Age 2, and Dead Space 2
have all surpassed two million in sales.

Sales as in stock bought by stores or actually bought by customers. Needs further clarification. Tricky wording.

Why must I be tortured so.

[fightright2]

ChickenDownUnder wrote...

As part of its announcement of results from the fourth quarter of its
fiscal year, EA revealed that Crysis 2, Dragon Age 2, and Dead Space 2
have all surpassed two million in sales.

Sales as in stock bought by stores or actually bought by customers. Needs further clarification. Tricky wording.

Why must I be tortured so.

Oh, Psyduck!! I love him. We share a common bond through migraines.

[fightright2]

I really should. But my alarm will go off in ten minutes. Help hubby get up for work and all.

[ChickenDownUnder]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

ChickenDownUnder wrote...

As part of its announcement of results from the fourth quarter of its
fiscal year, EA revealed that Crysis 2, Dragon Age 2, and Dead Space 2
have all surpassed two million in sales.

Sales as in stock bought by stores or actually bought by customers. Needs further clarification. Tricky wording.

Why must I be tortured so.

Because you're lost in the deep and vast ocean that is your soul. Or you're just a headless chicken

Well, as long as that vast ocean isn't BBQ sauce... er, lost train of thought. Anyways, don't need no stickin' head to make snap judgements, I can still run from danger damnit. That must still count for something.


It was a great day when I discovered the Psyduck emote on another forum.

Modifié par ChickenDownUnder, 06 mai 2011 - 08:39 .

[fightright2]

I can split up my sleep in small naps. And coffee or green tea, as of lately, will carry me through the day.

[fightright2]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

fightright2 wrote...

I really should. But my alarm will go off in ten minutes. Help hubby get up for work and all.

Alarm clock? What are you, a masochist?!

[ChickenDownUnder]

I know there is that slight addiction factor, but have you tried sleeping pills?

Or Ibuprofen really. One 800m pill manages to knock me out cold. Think that has to do with being so skinny though.

Modifié par ChickenDownUnder, 06 mai 2011 - 08:47 .

[fightright2]

It's just sometimes migraines and colds that trigger one along with the sumatriptan, tends to make me sleep and throws off my sleeping schedule.

[FedericoV]

neppakyo wrote...

We really should stay on topic here. lol.

And to catch up to people who havent read most of this thread. Its not sales. They "sold in" 2 million units to retailers, aka shipped/sold to. Not to consumers.

The vgchartz trend on sales seems to be a good indicator, and someone posted that roughly 1.3 million units have been actually sold. I'd give it a generous margin of error of +/- 15%.

And the trend shows DA2 is selling less and less everyweek. Last reported for week 7, was roughly 12,000 copies. Week 8 may be higher due to the ME2 giveaway. I'll wait till someone makes a graph again

EDIT: @Sab

Keith Richards was Jonny Dep's insperation on how to do jack sparrow.

Sorry neppakayo, but you should calm a bit. It's a little bit annoying reading your "sold in" posts in each page trying to dismiss EA financial report. It does not change the issue a lot: we do not know if Bioware and EA are happy with the numbers and we do not know how they will handle the feedback of the player base (not just that tiny minority that write in the forums). But we know for sure that in a samilar timeframe, but during cristmass, DA:O had shipped 2,7 milion copies.  So, if DA:O was going really well, then DA2 is going at least well.

Btw, I work in the sales dept of a company and when a retailer make an order, it is because he believes he will sell the copies he have bought (or because reaching a certain number of copies grants him a discount on the price he pay). So, shipped copies are mostly a good indicator of the health of a game.

Btw, are we really sure that DA:O has not hurt DA2 sales in some way? I know people who has not bought DA2 because they were not happy with DA:O. I would have not bought DA2 if it would have been just a DA:O 2. DA:O was a good game, but it received lots and lots of criticism too. Not that I'm completely happy with DA2 myself, I'm still divided about
that game and it's one of the strangest game to rate in my gaming
catalog.

Having said that, sales and the like does not falsify the constructive criticism of DA2. It's still mostly valid. Some of the best games in the history of gaming have been commercial failures (think at Shadow of the Colossus for example). So there's no point to use sales for criticism or praise.

Personally, I formulate those conclusion reading EA financial report:

- Trolls and haters were wrong calling the game with terms like "failure" or "crap" and were very wrong attacking personally some of the devs in spite of their conclusions.
- Official forums and internet gaming circles are not an adequate rapresentation of a fanbase or a customer base since they are too open to many forms of abuses.
- Metacritic user score is a joke and no one cares about it.
- Professional reviews have little to none influence on sales. That's the most interesting conclusion imho and it's strange that no one is talking about it.

Modifié par FedericoV, 06 mai 2011 - 09:04 .

[Elhanan]

fightright2 wrote...

It's just sometimes migraines and colds that trigger one along with the sumatriptan, tends to make me sleep and throws off my sleeping schedule.

I can recommend the migraine relief formula pain combo's (ie; Tylenol, aspirin, caffiene) on the shelves, as well as a hot shower on the back of your neck to stimulate circulation and relief pressure.

FWIW, see a doctor if possible, as mine may have been a preliminary symptom of my impending stroke. Ounce of prevention and all that....

[AkiKishi]

FedericoV wrote...

Sorry neppakayo, but you should calm a bit. It's a little bit annoying reading your "sold in" posts in each page trying to dismiss EA financial report. It does not change the issue a lot: we do not know if Bioware and EA are happy with the numbers and we do not know how they will handle the feedback of the player base (not just that tiny minority that write in the forums). But we know for sure that in a samilar timeframe, but during cristmass, DA:O had shipped 2,7 milion copies.  So, if DA:O was going really well, then DA2 is going at least well.

Btw, I work in the sales dept of a company and when a retailer make an order, it is because he believes he will sell the copies he have bought (or because reaching a certain number of copies grants him a discount on the price he pay). So, shipped copies are mostly a good indicator of the health of a game.

Btw, are we really sure that DA:O has not hurt DA2 sales in some way? I know people who has not bought DA2 because they were not happy with DA:O. I would have not bought DA2 if it would have been just a DA:O 2. DA:O was a good game, but it received lots and lots of criticism too. Not that I'm completely happy with DA2 myself, I'm still divided about
that game and it's one of the strangest game to rate in my gaming
catalog.

Having said that, sales and the like does not falsify the constructive criticism of DA2. It's still mostly valid. Some of the best games in the history of gaming have been commercial failures (think at Shadow of the Colossus for example). So there's no point to use sales for criticism or praise.

Personally, I formulate those conclusion reading EA financial report:

- Trolls and haters were wrong calling the game with terms like "failure" or "crap" and were very wrong attacking personally some of the devs in spite of their conclusions.
- Official forums and internet gaming circles are not an adequate rapresentation of a fanbase or a customer base since they are too open to many forms of abuses.
- Metacritic user score is a joke and no one cares about it.
- Professional reviews have little to none influence on sales. That's the most interesting conclusion imho and it's strange that no one is talking about it.

Sold in vs sold through is very important.

Your heath prediction is flawed based on 2 things. Prices being slashed and the gap between sold in and sold through. That does not indicate a healthy game. That indicates a publisher shipping games that are not being bought.

Your free to believe what you like but healthy games don't drop in price after 3 weeks, or have other games given away with them as freebies.

[Bryy_Miller]

I don't understand why people think EA would continue making Dragon Age games if the numbers were bad....

Just to spite the consumer?

[Well]

Elhanan wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

@Perse I can't say I disagree, lol. But in all of the interviews Mr. Laidlaw had given pre-DA2's release, did he not promise that WE would shape the story over a decade, and not being rail-roaded in there with the occasional choice?

I would say we did shape the story; just did not choose the overall design, like filling in a paint-by-number canvas.

I dont see it.Just my opinion.Some minor parts but that was it.DAO had more important choices in my view.

[FedericoV]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Sold in vs sold through is very important.

Your heath prediction is flawed based on 2 things. Prices being slashed and the gap between sold in and sold through. That does not indicate a healthy game. That indicates a publisher shipping games that are not being bought.

Your free to believe what you like but healthy games don't drop in price after 3 weeks, or have other games given away with them as freebies.

Price are allways spashed by retailers after a while. In these days, only fools (like myself) buys products before the prices drop. The initial price applied by retailers is allways a form of cash grab. The real sales allways happen with discount.

You do not know why they have dropped the prices after 3 weeks. It could mean many many different things. It could mean that EA and Bioware are confident to take an aggressive move toward the market and to fight the used copies market. It does not necessarly means that the game is going bad. It could easily means the opposite considering economy of scale. 

Selling at retailer level it's not a science, it's more of an art imho. But retailers do not buy products if they believe that they will take dust on their shelf and do not use incentives if they loose money because of them. 

Modifié par FedericoV, 06 mai 2011 - 09:22 .

[Marionetten]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

I don't understand why people think EA would continue making Dragon Age games if the numbers were bad....

Just to spite the consumer?

I think both EA and BioWare are fully aware of just how outlandish Dragon Age II was. If it fails it's more likely that they will revert back to the more traditional approach instead of dismantling the franchise as a whole. They've invested way too much time and energy into this franchise to simply let it die off.

[fightright2]

Elhanan wrote...

fightright2 wrote...

It's just sometimes migraines and colds that trigger one along with the sumatriptan, tends to make me sleep and throws off my sleeping schedule.

I can recommend the migraine relief formula pain combo's (ie; Tylenol, aspirin, caffiene) on the shelves, as well as a hot shower on the back of your neck to stimulate circulation and relief pressure.

FWIW, see a doctor if possible, as mine may have been a preliminary symptom of my impending stroke. Ounce of prevention and all that....

Tylenol doesn't work on me. Ibuprofen only for tiny aches but never for migraine, it's too small. But my great-grandmother had them and my mother has them as well. 
Over the years, it has served me much to a thorn in my side that I now have a high tolerance for pain. Which came in handy when I had tubal ligation surgery post-delivery and the epidural didn't work on me.
I felt everything. But again. It helped me bear the pain of being cut open with no anesthesea.

But thanks. I have been getting them less often as of late.

[Elhanan]

It is not really the acetaminophen which helps me, as much as getting the combo of the three at once. Ibuprofin was used more for my muscle aches, but have dropped it recently due to daily doses of aspirin which do not go well together for me; become violently ill.

Since my stroke and new meds, no more headaches other than caffiene withdrawl; reason I posted the check-up advice. I hate both migraines and my current disability; pls try and avoid both.