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[LostHH]

The inventory system wasn't ****. If you didn't like it then go back to your d-pad inventories of Gears of ****, which EA/Bioware are obviously trying to make.
The funny part is that everyone will buy the game to see which squad mate they can date anf **** next.
Might as well make ME3 a dating sim

[ExtremeOne]

Evercrow wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

yeah but I am sure me and others do not want to deal with that crap in 3 . ME 2 had it right when it dropped the stupid inventory system .  

And who said "stupid inventory system" would be back? All I heard is that they just added customization on guns, much like what we had with armor. Where is problem in that? And i certainly won't mind all ammo powers go into this customization screen - instead of picking a squadmate with appopriate "squad ammo" talent for each mission(more freedom in picking companions)

   



I never said it would be back . But the ME 1 system was stupid . 

[VanTesla]

WTF... I hate shooters and ME2 was just enough. I thought they where going more towards a hybred of ME1 and 2... Screw shooters!! I want my dam rpg! My hands are pretty bad and not good with precise control/dexterity for most shooters... ME2 was well enough.. but I thought the devs said they wanted to make a more cross ME 1/2 not more linear shooter...

P.S. sorry about the rant.

[Someone With Mass]

Excuse me if I didn't like wasting my time turning everything in my inventory into omni-gel because I already had the best items in the game. With ME2, I never had that problem, to my relief. I could use different items depending on my preference at the time, not because of their stats.

And I wouldn't mind if ME3 has something similar. Would be a huge improvement compared to ME1.

By the way, Mass Effect has and always will be part shooter.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 05 mai 2011 - 11:05 .

[ExtremeOne]

LostHH wrote...

The inventory system wasn't ****. If you didn't like it then go back to your d-pad inventories of Gears of ****, which EA/Bioware are obviously trying to make.
The funny part is that everyone will buy the game to see which squad mate they can date anf **** next.
Might as well make ME3 a dating sim

    



Gears of War 3 will most likly sell 6 - 8 million judging from the response in the beta . so yeah you dam right EA wants ME 3 to sell that much .   shooter games make the most money simple 

[Torhagen]

ExtremeOne wrote...

Evercrow wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

yeah but I am sure me and others do not want to deal with that crap in 3 . ME 2 had it right when it dropped the stupid inventory system .  

And who said "stupid inventory system" would be back? All I heard is that they just added customization on guns, much like what we had with armor. Where is problem in that? And i certainly won't mind all ammo powers go into this customization screen - instead of picking a squadmate with appopriate "squad ammo" talent for each mission(more freedom in picking companions)

   



I never said it would be back . But the ME 1 system was stupid . 

seemingly there are some people which do not completely agree with you
Nobody including me ever said the ME1 Inventory was perfect but removing it alltogether instead of improving it is the worst Solution

[ExtremeOne]

Torhagen wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

Evercrow wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

yeah but I am sure me and others do not want to deal with that crap in 3 . ME 2 had it right when it dropped the stupid inventory system .  

And who said "stupid inventory system" would be back? All I heard is that they just added customization on guns, much like what we had with armor. Where is problem in that? And i certainly won't mind all ammo powers go into this customization screen - instead of picking a squadmate with appopriate "squad ammo" talent for each mission(more freedom in picking companions)

   



I never said it would be back . But the ME 1 system was stupid . 

seemingly there are some people which do not completely agree with you
Nobody including me ever said the ME1 Inventory was perfect but removing it alltogether instead of improving it is the worst Solution

    




well I guess EA decided to remove so it must have been stupid and not useful since ME 2 system is perfectly fine for the type game it is . I played ME 1 and its inventory system was completely stuipd and uesless . ME 1 was not a great game at all .  I think some on here need to deal with the reality of it that ME 1 was a piece of crap  

[LostHH]

How's it feel being a sellout sucking on EA's fat cawk, ExtremeOne?

ME1 a piece of crap... oh you

[Maderek]

ExtremeOne wrote...

Torhagen wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

Evercrow wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

yeah but I am sure me and others do not want to deal with that crap in 3 . ME 2 had it right when it dropped the stupid inventory system .  

And who said "stupid inventory system" would be back? All I heard is that they just added customization on guns, much like what we had with armor. Where is problem in that? And i certainly won't mind all ammo powers go into this customization screen - instead of picking a squadmate with appopriate "squad ammo" talent for each mission(more freedom in picking companions)

   



I never said it would be back . But the ME 1 system was stupid . 

seemingly there are some people which do not completely agree with you
Nobody including me ever said the ME1 Inventory was perfect but removing it alltogether instead of improving it is the worst Solution

    




well I guess EA decided to remove so it must have been stupid and not useful since ME 2 system is perfectly fine for the type game it is . I played ME 1 and its inventory system was completely stuipd and uesless . ME 1 was not a great game at all .  I think some on here need to deal with the reality of it that ME 1 was a piece of crap  

You mean ME2's ****ty loadout system?

But, yeah, we should totally deal with the reality of that it's only your opinion.

[Azzlee]

didymos1120 wrote...

Bachi1230 wrote...

Da Mecca wrote...

Well if it was at an investor conference no wonder they said that.

That's what investors want to hear.

Basically this, I don't know why everyone is freaking out about this article.

Exactly:

Investors: So why is this product not releasing for the 2011 Holiday season?

Riccitello: Blah, blah, larger market, blah, blah.

Investor: We are now mollified by your largely-content-free PR indoctrination signal.

Riccitello: Moving on...

Riccitello is not your friend. He used to make Ice Cream. Now he runs EA. I can totally see why EA hired him with his past work experience...

I can only hope that the delay and this sentence means more content to appeal to all. That I most certainly wouldn't have an issue with. After the bitter disappointment at DA2 "broadening" I now have grave concerns at the direction EA are taking. Casey Hudson works for EA. Bioware are owned by EA. IF Riccitello and EA's investors tell Casey to make the only skin colour available as bright pink to appeal to the 3 year old girls market, he sure as **** would have to do it. Or they find someone else. Point explained?

Well, if this fails and that Star Wars MMO fails (which it will, WOW is too big a monster to compete with) at least Bioware can be shut down, Makuza and Zeschuk can laugh all the way to the bank and the decent hardworking staff at Bioware can learn a lesson, make their own developer and sign up with Take2 Interactive. At least they still make totally awesome games.

[Someone With Mass]

In the loadout in ME3, you can change the modifications on your weapons, a little like the mods in ME1, but with more visual results. Not to mention that there will be five different mods per piece on each gun.

Sounds like a vast improvement over that piece of crap inventory system in ME1 to me.

[LostHH]

ah well, a date sim for forever alone virgins it is then

[didymos1120]

Azzlee wrote...

Riccitello is not your friend

And what ever gave the idea I thought he was?  He's a CEO and he was talking your bog-standard CEO-talking-to-investors PR-ese.  It's so content-free, no one can agree on what the hell it actually means.  Which was more or less the point.

[VanTesla]

ExtremeOne wrote...

LostHH wrote...

The inventory system wasn't ****. If you didn't like it then go back to your d-pad inventories of Gears of ****, which EA/Bioware are obviously trying to make.
The funny part is that everyone will buy the game to see which squad mate they can date anf **** next.
Might as well make ME3 a dating sim

    



Gears of War 3 will most likly sell 6 - 8 million judging from the response in the beta . so yeah you dam right EA wants ME 3 to sell that much .   shooter games make the most money simple 

I don't understand the shooter appeal at all... I guess it has to do with a basic violent instinct in humans that cares little for anything else in games mostly... I wish shooters would die down just a little.

[upsettingshorts]

didymos1120 wrote...

And what ever gave the idea I thought he was?  He's a CEO and he was talking your bog-standard CEO-talking-to-investors PR-ese.  It's so content-free, no one can agree on what the hell it actually means.  Which was more or less the point.

It means whatever the people reacting to it want it to mean. 

Like - just to use a totally hypothetical example - people who think that DA2 was "dumbed down for the masses" and blame EA are going to want it to mean.

[VanTesla]

didymos1120 wrote...

Azzlee wrote...

Riccitello is not your friend

And what ever gave the idea I thought he was?  He's a CEO and he was talking your bog-standard CEO-talking-to-investors PR-ese.  It's so content-free, no one can agree on what the hell it actually means.  Which was more or less the point.

 Industry CEO's on average are evil incarnate.

[upsettingshorts]

If by "evil" you mean responsible to the shareholders and the continued financial viability of their company, yes.

Unless of course, you have issues with capitalism, then I could see that point of view. But there are implications to that perspective, naturally.

[JeffZero]

Oh god, Fat!Lee Adama. I love the avatar.

[didymos1120]

VanTesla wrote...

 Industry CEO's on average are evil incarnate.

Well, that still doesn't magically make that statement all that informative.  It's a bunch of vague jargon that essentially translates to "Please don't sell your shares."

[VanTesla]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

If by "evil" you mean responsible to the shareholders and the continued financial viability of their company, yes.

Unless of course, you have issues with capitalism, then I could see that point of view. But there are implications to that perspective, naturally.

I understand a CEO purpose but some of them (most likely majority) screw over their own workers and try to do things to make gaming worse. Example= Bobby Kotick of Activision...

[Torhagen]

LostHH wrote...

How's it feel being a sellout sucking on EA's fat cawk, ExtremeOne?

ME1 a piece of crap... oh you

what he said

[Jebel Krong]

ExtremeOne wrote...

LostHH wrote...

The inventory system wasn't ****. If you didn't like it then go back to your d-pad inventories of Gears of ****, which EA/Bioware are obviously trying to make.
The funny part is that everyone will buy the game to see which squad mate they can date anf **** next.
Might as well make ME3 a dating sim

    



Gears of War 3 will most likly sell 6 - 8 million judging from the response in the beta . so yeah you dam right EA wants ME 3 to sell that much .   shooter games make the most money simple 

gears of war has multiplayer, so it's going to sell more/appeal more to the casual crowd whatever. oh and try visiting their forums, man the people are complaining about that game... (it's ok on dedicated servers, awful and i mean - more than gears 2 awful - off them). Mass effect 3 should do 4-5 million easy, building on ME2's success and across 3 platforms.

edit @ all the people talking crap about riccitello - you do know that he was the guy in charge of Bioware before EA bought it, right?

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 05 mai 2011 - 11:39 .

[Shadowbanner]

JoeClose wrote...

I'm so sick of seeing all the worried people about how "their" game is going to be dumbed down for "COD players". Seriously grow up and have some faith in the company that delivers you games like Mass Effect, KOTOR, and many others. Sick of this crap.

Why so sick?

Look at what happened to DA2 when they stripped off RPG elements to appeal to mainstream console-players (COD crowd). Read this thread and see how people who post on BioWare forums rate this change over DA:O:

On a scale of 1 to 10, how do you rate DA2?

The universal trend in the above thread is to rate DA2 much lower than DA:O. Doesn't that tell you something? people in this forum, BioWare fams, gamers are voting essentially that they disliked this DA2 consolization to appeal to a broader fanbase.

Why? Because it was dumbed-down "to address a larger market opportunity". Sounds familiar? That is exactly what JR is saying now on ME3 and its delay. He specifically says that ME2 tried to do this half-heartedly and ME3 will do it even more decisevely. Many people, including myself, complained on how ME2 removed many key RPG features to bring it closer to a shooter.

If you think there is no source for concern on ME3 you are sorely mistaken after whast the boss of EA has declared and I quote:

Joystiq

When asked about the delay, EA boss John Riccitiello said, "Essentially, step by step, [BioWare is] adjusting some of the gameplay mechanics and some of the features that you'll see at E3 that can put this into a genre equivalent of shooter-meets-RPG, and essentially address a far larger market opportunity than Mass Effect 1 did and Mass Effect 2 began to approach."

I don't know about you but I think this "consolization" or "casualization" trend is very worrisome as its killling RPGs as we know them. And I'm a console-player.

Modifié par Shadowbanner, 05 mai 2011 - 11:43 .

[Azzlee]

didymos1120 wrote...

Azzlee wrote...

Riccitello is not your friend

And what ever gave the idea I thought he was?  He's a CEO and he was talking your bog-standard CEO-talking-to-investors PR-ese.  It's so content-free, no one can agree on what the hell it actually means.  Which was more or less the point.

That wasn't entirley directed at you personally but for those who aimed at all "this is just talking ****e to investors".

You don't talk crap to investors mate. Its their money at the end of day that is being spent on making a game. If you lend a friends company $10  to make you an awesome game, you would want to not only make your $10 back, but then some on top. 

When you give control of your money to a man that equals in the millions, you expect the best possible return on that investment. If my company does not appease investors or performs badly, they pull their money, I lose my job.

But also as a I said, this could be to cram just that little bit more awesome into the game. With Riccitello's past though, I can't help but wonder.

[JeffZero]

I don't really give a damn so long as the story's great.