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[VolusNamedBob]

I have no problem with trying to reach a wider audience, sometimes a game can be better for it (for both the investors and the players). Just as long as they don't go all CoD on us.

[LostHH]

I've heard the hamburger woman who hates videogames is on the writing team for ME3

[man giraffedog000]

 I've come to warn you about MAN-GIRAFFE-DOG!! It's the single greatest threat to humanity!! RUN AWAY!!


I'm still more Serial than ever guys.

[lolwut666]

LostHH wrote...

I've heard the hamburger woman who hates videogames is on the writing team for ME3

[DownyTif]

My heart just stopped when reading this thread and article. I had so much expectations for ME3 after finishing ME2....

But those expectations went down when I played DA2, which was supposed to be made for a larger market. If they butcher ME3, the final chapter of a trilogy, the way they did it for DA2, that's it for me and my relationship with Bioware. I love Mass Effect, more than Dragon Age. I will be crushed if they destroy that franchise for a larger audience. WTF? Please Bioware, don't take that away! Do your experiences in another futur game in the universe of Mass Effect, not in ME3!

There is a direct impact to that news. It just confirmed that I won't pre-order the game. After being extremely disappointed by DA2, which I pre-prdered, I stated that I would not pre-order anymore. That news just confirmed my statement.

[AdmiralCheez]

The difference here is that they're giving ME3 MORE dev time instead of LESS.

The changes to DA2 would have been fine if they'd had the time to properly implement them.

[Blarty]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

The difference here is that they're giving ME3 MORE dev time instead of LESS.

The changes to DA2 would have been fine if they'd had the time to properly implement them.

100% this

[man giraffedog000]

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[Vice-Admiral von Titsling]

For the love of God.

Please, please, PLEASE don't Dragon Age 2 our beloved Mass Effect. It doesn't deserve it.

[Blarty]

In fact while we're all blowing off steam over eurogamer, here's another link that might be a little less inflammatory to the ME faithful.... here

Modifié par Blarty, 05 mai 2011 - 12:46 .

[Azzlee]

DownyTif wrote...

My heart just stopped when reading this thread and article. I had so much expectations for ME3 after finishing ME2....

But those expectations went down when I played DA2, which was supposed to be made for a larger market. If they butcher ME3, the final chapter of a trilogy, the way they did it for DA2, that's it for me and my relationship with Bioware. I love Mass Effect, more than Dragon Age. I will be crushed if they destroy that franchise for a larger audience. WTF? Please Bioware, don't take that away! Do your experiences in another futur game in the universe of Mass Effect, not in ME3!

There is a direct impact to that news. It just confirmed that I won't pre-order the game. After being extremely disappointed by DA2, which I pre-prdered, I stated that I would not pre-order anymore. That news just confirmed my statement.

This. The problem with the statement is the same one that was made about DA2 which like you was quite crushing how bad it actually was for me.

But the current list of changes made for ME3 that we have make me very excited. Plus with what Casey Hudson has said about reintroducing more RPG elements can only be a plus. I was disappointed this had been so streamlined from ME1 -> ME2 but ultimately, between the two of them, I would take ME2 over ME1.

[Vice-Admiral von Titsling]

LostHH wrote...

I've heard the hamburger woman who hates videogames is on the writing team for ME3

Oh, just farking great. Now we'll have 'Stay-At Home Mom Harlequin Romance novel' mode wherein you can skip all the cutscenes and icky 'fighting' parts so you can get to the romance parts which is clearly all women care about in video games, ever. Because math is hard, girls don't like fighting, and figuring out how to turn the pointy end of a gun towards your enemy is too goddamn difficult and needs the hubby to do.

This is why we can't have nice things.

[xSTONEYx187x]

It's been confirmed that there WILL be more RPG elements in Mass Effect 3, by Casey Hudson and various gaming magazines.

The more they improve the TPS aspects of the game the better.

[AlbertoAquilani]

I don't know, I'd hate for the series to go from one of the most ambitious, beautifully crafted but flawed game to standard TPS fare.

I hope the CEO is just talking rubbish, but I have to say, that comment really rubbed me the wrong way and after being hyped by the information coming out, I'm feeling back down to earth.

Bloody EA, first they don't want to pursue a sequel to Mirror's Edge, and now this.

[ExtremeOne]

Icinix wrote...

Not worried, investor meetings are about telling the investors about what they want to hear, not what they're actually doing.

If you've ever heard Intel or AMD go at it, every single low end CPU is going to revolutionise the industry.

Besides, even if they are making it more appealing, it just might mean the shooter elements are better (which have always been a weakness in the series). So I'm calling this a positive either way at this stage.

   



You forget one thing EA has a boss and its the share holders and investors . 

[ExtremeOne]

Blarty wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...


I am not sure what it means by tweaking game mechanics .  It is vague on the mechanics part but I am sure there is something that will either be added or changed that will appeal to a wider audience . I do not want the rpg  part to be removed . It could be a story tweak that relates to game play . 

The main gameplay mechanic I want tweaking is cover and vaulting.... 'No If the enemy is behind me I do not want to go into cover against a wall that is facing them!!!! ' .... and I'd like skill trees that allow divergence before Level 4 ability, and for them to be applicable 'outside' a combat setting..

Oh and mining, should be replaced by something like trade agreements that provide X amount of mineral Y over a given time as long as you do or keep doing action Z, etc.

   


I agree the cover system in 2 was bad 

[BlackAdder117]

Well I honestly hope that Riccitiello doesn't stuff it all up and try to 'look over the shoulder' as such at the team.

Hey! Isn't Greed one of the Seven Deadliest Sins? Yeah... I think we all know what happens when you mix good quality with the intention of greed....

[ExtremeOne]

BlackAdder117 wrote...

Well I honestly hope that Riccitiello doesn't stuff it all up and try to 'look over the shoulder' as such at the team.

Hey! Isn't Greed one of the Seven Deadliest Sins? Yeah... I think we all know what happens when you mix good quality with the intention of greed....

   



You can call it greed if you want to . But he has a job to make EA the most money it can make for share holders and investors . In Buisness making money is the core function of any product 

[man giraffedog000]

I've come to warn you about MAN-GIRAFFE-DOG!! It's the single greatest threat to humanity!! RUN AWAY!!























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[Leonia]

Vice-Admiral von Titsling wrote...

For the love of God.

Please, please, PLEASE don't Dragon Age 2 our beloved Mass Effect. It doesn't deserve it.

It's funny.. during DA2 development the cry on the forums was "Don't Mass Effect 2 our beloved Dragon Age!".

I still tend to twitch every time I see the term "Dragon Effect".

Also, for what it's worth, I didn't think Dragon Age 2 was that bad of a game. I'm still enjoying it so all these "Dragon Age 2 is synonymous with crap" comments don't hold much weight. That's just, like, your opinion, man.

[MajesticJazz]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

They are tweaking gameplay features to appeal to as many people as possible--RPG fans, shooter fans, hardcore followers of the ME series, and casual gamers. They probably needed more time, anyway, since the expectations for ME3 are through the roof.

Also, now they don't have to compete with Skyrim.

(Read as deeply into his statement as I could without going apesh*t.)

That is such a naive comment.

Why can't people just accept the fact that EA is wanting ME to appeal largely to shooter fans? They just cannot get around the grips the notion that when publishers say "larger market", what they really mean is the casual shooter market where most of the profit is generated?

Yeah yeah yeah....I know that ME3 is supposed to have better RPG elements than ME2, but what you forget to say is that ME3's RPG elements would be less than ME1 so what does that tell you?

Again, just admit it, ME3 might be called an "Action-RPG" but it is clearly evident that it will and is marketed as a Shooter that just happens to have minor RPG elements.

[BlackAdder117]

Nah, what I'm trying to say is that while their core is to make money, I'm just worried about EA's 'meddling', but I'm certain that I can agree with the fact that we're all apprehensive about the result of when ME3 does get released, and whether it will live up to players expectations.

But then again, 'resigning bankers' do receive money in the millions...which is hardly justifiable when the backbone of any nation is the working class who keep things running.

[Leonia]

Blarty wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

The difference here is that they're giving ME3 MORE dev time instead of LESS.

The changes to DA2 would have been fine if they'd had the time to properly implement them.

100% this

Quoting again. It just needs to be said. A few weeks ago everyone was mildly nervous about the short development time, now we have a longer period of development and everyone is getting even more nervous.

Ya'll need to put on some gentle music, curl up with a glass of your beverage of choice, and think about all the reasons why you love Mass Effect. It's all going to be OK.

[Leonia]

MajesticJazz wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

They are tweaking gameplay features to appeal to as many people as possible--RPG fans, shooter fans, hardcore followers of the ME series, and casual gamers. They probably needed more time, anyway, since the expectations for ME3 are through the roof.

Also, now they don't have to compete with Skyrim.

(Read as deeply into his statement as I could without going apesh*t.)

That is such a naive comment.

Why can't people just accept the fact that EA is wanting ME to appeal largely to shooter fans? They just cannot get around the grips the notion that when publishers say "larger market", what they really mean is the casual shooter market where most of the profit is generated?

Yeah yeah yeah....I know that ME3 is supposed to have better RPG elements than ME2, but what you forget to say is that ME3's RPG elements would be less than ME1 so what does that tell you?

Again, just admit it, ME3 might be called an "Action-RPG" but it is clearly evident that it will and is marketed as a Shooter that just happens to have minor RPG elements.

I think you should probably look up what "naive" means.

So it has more RPG elements than ME2 and less than ME1, ok, and your point? It still has RPG elements. If ME2 is still considered an RPG with even less RPG elements than the other two games then.. you know what, what does it matter what genre it falls under so long as it is a good game that appeals to many people of varying preferences? It has RPG elements. It has shooter elements. Shooter fans will enjoy, RPG fans will enjoy.

Ok, it's not as "RPG" as ME1 but neither was ME2 and ME2 was hugely successful so.. they must be doing something right.

[Someone With Mass]

MajesticJazz wrote...

That is such a naive comment.

Why can't people just accept the fact that EA is wanting ME to appeal largely to shooter fans? They just cannot get around the grips the notion that when publishers say "larger market", what they really mean is the casual shooter market where most of the profit is generated?

Yeah yeah yeah....I know that ME3 is supposed to have better RPG elements than ME2, but what you forget to say is that ME3's RPG elements would be less than ME1 so what does that tell you?

Again, just admit it, ME3 might be called an "Action-RPG" but it is clearly evident that it will and is marketed as a Shooter that just happens to have minor RPG elements.

Let me guess. It was all those identical items that all became obsolete the second you found Colossus armor that made ME1 such a rich RPG, right?

Yeah, I can live without that. 

ME3 has better skill trees, better weapon mods and more stuff to buy at the stores that aren't slightly better versions of the things you already have.