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[Phaedon]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Redgoon23 wrote...
http://www.joystiq.c...ger-market-opp/

This is exactly why it was delayed. Don't need to speculate anymore.

Ah sh*t!

There go the RPG elements they promised to add in again I guess. Bah...I'm not usually for for hyperbolic statements, but I've finally had enough. It appears to be the kick-the-old-fans-in-the-face time for Bioware, and didn't we all suspect that would happen with EA at the reins for some years.

Well, if the story is good and the action not too crazy I guess I'll like the game anyway. But I'm going to be more wary of future Bioware titles after ME3 if what this seems to indicate will indeed materialize, that's for sure. No more preorders without a closer look. 

I am sorry, but are you serious. Even if you didn't read the article, what you said makes absolutely no sense.

Modifié par Phaedon, 05 mai 2011 - 06:51 .

[Ixalmaris]

mereck7980 wrote...

Shifty Assassin wrote...

Also because Casey Hudson wants to shift to a wider audience (like Da2) possibly to appeal to share holders so there might be a chance of them dumbing it down like Da2

Don't give them any ideas...

On a serious note I don't see how they can "dumb it down" and add additional RPG elements at the same time.  Seeing as they have already confirmed the RPG elements I am going to remain hopeful that the combat/story is just as good or better than ME2.  At least until they relase more info at E3.  

Who says that "adding more RPG elements" is still the current plan? Maybe they need the extra time specifically to remove them again?

[rolson00]

good marketing only a moron would release it around the same time as elder scrolls and such

Modifié par rolson00, 05 mai 2011 - 06:54 .

[Phaedon]

Ixalmaris wrote...
Who says that "adding more RPG elements" is still the current plan? Maybe they need the extra time specifically to remove them again?

It was on articles... 5 days ago.

And I am going to bet you didn't bother reading past the title. The EA rep talks about balancing the shooter and RPG elements.

[Jarlan23]

I don't know why everyone is so worried about Elder Scrolls. Mass Effect 3 is a much bigger game then Scyrim imo.

[Phaedon]

Redgoon23 wrote...

I don't know why everyone is so worried about Elder Scrolls. Mass Effect 3 is a much bigger game then Scyrim imo.

We'll see about it's reception. I wouldn't be particularly optimistic.

[Tiax Rules All]

I hope its simply because they dont want ME3 to get critisized like DA2 did over some lame mechanics, poor story and reused scenes so now they are ading much more of all that to ME3.

[Tamahome560]

Assassins Creed Revelations is coming out in the holiday season as well. It was a strategic move. Too many games coming out in that period + in 2012 ME3 will have less competition for GOTY awards and of course it gives them more time for polish.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

For once, a game I want is being delayed and I don't even care. I know it's only going to be better because of this.

[rolson00]

Redgoon23 wrote...

I don't know why everyone is so worried about Elder Scrolls. Mass Effect 3 is a much bigger game then Scyrim imo.

sorry but if i had to choose between the two on the same day elder scrolls every time

Modifié par rolson00, 05 mai 2011 - 07:07 .

[Black Raptor]

EA are already releasing games for the holiday season. They are going to bump up profits for the first quarter next year by moving some titles back. ME3 happens to be one of them.

Bioware could always polish it more, but they definitely won't be changing any core aspect of the game.

[MartinDN]

If its delayed for a cod style multiplayer anyone feel like staging a protest in edmonton ?

Modifié par MartinDN, 05 mai 2011 - 07:25 .

[Schneidend]

Shifty Assassin wrote...

Also because Casey Hudson wants to shift to a wider audience (like Da2) possibly to appeal to share holders so there might be a chance of them dumbing it down like Da2

Congratulations, you're perpetuating the change = dumbing down mantra. You're a blight on the gaming community! Yay!

[Waage25]

Schneidend wrote...

Shifty Assassin wrote...

Also because Casey Hudson wants to shift to a wider audience (like Da2) possibly to appeal to share holders so there might be a chance of them dumbing it down like Da2

Congratulations, you're perpetuating the change = dumbing down mantra. You're a blight on the gaming community! Yay!

Your are right because DA2 proved that when things are changed it is for the better.....
CEO's coming out and telling people that it is getting retooled to make it Available top a wider audience.
That is PR speak for reaching a lower coming denominator and making it easier. THAT IS THE DIRECT Translation.

[Jedi31293]

While I refuse to jump on the bandwagon and start proclaiming the end of the world, I am a bit more skeptical. I hope the delay is a strategic business move simply to avoid the huge AAA title rush coming this fall. It's tough for one little RPG to compete with two huge multiplayer games (BF3, Gears 3) and other popular RPGs (Witcher 2, Skyrim). I'll continue to be cautiously optimistic about this news until we see actualy gameplay at E3.

[tonnactus]

Shifty Assassin wrote...

Also because Casey Hudson wants to shift to a wider audience (like Da2) possibly to appeal to share holders so there might be a chance of them dumbing it down like Da2

Even "dumbed down" Da2 is far more complex then the first Mass Effect(that i still like more then both Dragon Age games).
Just mentioning...

[tonnactus]

mereck7980 wrote...


On a serious note I don't see how they can "dumb it down" and add additional RPG elements at the same time. 

We will see.They also said that Mass Effect 2 has rich customization...

[Tripedius]

Makes sense, the current ME2 crowd will probably buy ME3 anyway, regardless of what they make of it. So it's only reasonable to totally ignore your old fanbase (as they are already sold anyway) and try getting an even bigger one.
But tbh I don't give a sh*t as long as the story and the way choices carry over are good. How ever I do doubt that especially the latter will be any good. Since your whole squad can get killed, those people probably won't have any big role.

[Schneidend]

Waage25 wrote...

Your are right because DA2 proved that when things are changed it is for the better.....

I am right, yes, thank you. I don't tend to go around posting erroneous things on purpose.   
I found DA2's talent trees far more compelling than DAO's.

CEO's coming out and telling people that it is getting retooled to make it Available top a wider audience.
That is PR speak for reaching a lower coming denominator and making it easier. THAT IS THE DIRECT Translation.

Insanity was a wall that the lowest common denominator bashed its head into uselessly, and people who suck at ME2 still complain that they can't run through Insanity with several of the classes. To me, that doesn't scream "easier." If you're referring to making stats less ambiguous (having to look up what "Hardening" does in ME1, for instance) and making skills and equipment bonuses' effect on gameplay more apparent (trying to melee krogan in ME1 and having no effect despite my huge percentage boost to melee damage, for instance), then yes, Big Bad Bioware is going to make their game clear and legible to people who don't want to have to look at a wiki to know what's going on.

[Jebel Krong]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Redgoon23 wrote...
http://www.joystiq.c...ger-market-opp/

This is exactly why it was delayed. Don't need to speculate anymore.

Ah sh*t!

There go the RPG elements they promised to add in again I guess. Bah...I'm not usually for for hyperbolic statements, but I've finally had enough. It appears to be the kick-the-old-fans-in-the-face time for Bioware, and didn't we all suspect that would happen with EA at the reins for some years.

Well, if the story is good and the action not too crazy I guess I'll like the game anyway. But I'm going to be more wary of future Bioware titles after ME3 if what this seems to indicate will indeed materialize, that's for sure. No more preorders without a closer look. 

oh don't be so melodromatic - you'll end up "special", like marshalleck. nowhere in any statement did they say they were extending dev time to make the game worse. that would be ridiculous.

[hawat333]

What other reasons? Well, bugfixing, optimizing and polishing usually eats up a lot of time. Optimizing - I know the engine will be the tweaked ME2 one, but still it never hurts.
Polishing - Not neccessarily in terms of graphics but in gameplay, animation, so on, for all the little pieces to fall together.
Bugfixing - So it won't be another DA2 or any Obsidian Entertainment game (Hey, I love OE games, at least some of them, but there are a massive amount of bugs there).

Or probably trying to avoid the overwhelming holiday rush of games, but if they do that, they'll have time to do some things above too. 

I don't really fall for that adjusting mechanics headline just yet.
Or if they indeed do that, and it will be an even more Gear of Warized game, then... well, I don't know. But don't give them ideas.

Modifié par hawat333, 05 mai 2011 - 08:01 .

[tonnactus]

Schneidend wrote...
(trying to melee krogan in ME1 and having no effect despite my huge percentage boost to melee damage, for instance),

God forbid if a game make some sense.The idea alone that a human could beat a krogan in melee combat...
Try to wrestle a bear and tell me the results.

Modifié par tonnactus, 05 mai 2011 - 08:02 .

[rolson00]

tonnactus wrote...

Schneidend wrote...
(trying to melee krogan in ME1 and having no effect despite my huge percentage boost to melee damage, for instance),

God forbid if a game make some sense.The idea alone that a human could beat a krogan in melee combat...
Try to wrestle a bear and tell me the results.

lolz i had nearly forgotten why i come here then i saw your post

[Jebel Krong]

tonnactus wrote...

Schneidend wrote...
(trying to melee krogan in ME1 and having no effect despite my huge percentage boost to melee damage, for instance),

God forbid if a game make some sense.The idea alone that a human could beat a krogan in melee combat...
Try to wrestle a bear and tell me the results.

oh look who crawled out of the woodwork... power-armour-suited cybernetically-enhanced human could easily handle a bear/krogan as long as the right tactics are applied - the only disadvantage is always going to be pure mass. perhaps the criticism should be that the technique was rendered so primitively?

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 05 mai 2011 - 08:06 .

[Blooddrunk1004]

Redgoon23 wrote...

I don't know why everyone is so worried about Elder Scrolls. Mass Effect 3 is a much bigger game then Scyrim imo.

Because Elder Scrolls looks promising and Bethesda knows how to do their stuff.  And aside from that, they are not appealing to COD fans like EA/ Bioware and nobody is pressuring them to change stuff, because they are all one company, which is exactly what Bioware should do instead of signing deal with the devil.

Modifié par Blooddrunk1004, 05 mai 2011 - 08:08 .