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Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Redgoon23 wrote...

I don't know why everyone is so worried about Elder Scrolls. Mass Effect 3 is a much bigger game then Scyrim imo.

Because Elder Scrolls looks promising and Bethesda knows how to do their stuff.  And aside from that, they are not appealing to COD fans like EA/ Bioware and nobody is pressuring them to change stuff, because they are all one company, which is exactly what Bioware should do instead of signing deal with the devil.

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I prefered Mass Effect 2 over ME1, so making the shooting more fluid and such is only a bonus for me, as I find that its very hard to go back to ME1 now. However, to appeal to a wider audience really doesn't fill me with optimism. I hadn't heard of Bioware until I bought ME1, and now its my favorite series ever, that is more down to ME2 though, not ME1.

You might think I must be part of the shooter crowd because I prefered 2 over 1, but the thing is, its the RPG elements that keep me playing. I loved the characters in ME2, because IMO they were so much better than the ones in ME1, i never particually liked any of the crew aside from wrex in ME1, yet in ME2 I love almost all of them, the exception being jack. I love the exploration part. The fact that everyone you talk to you has a back story and a reason for what they are doing.

What worries me about ME3 is, and I hate to say it, EA. Now, don't think I'm an EA hater, because I'm not. I would feel the same if it were any big publisher pulling the strings. What I am worried about is the need for more money all the time. Bring in the new players and such, I'm sorry, but I don't care about the new players. Who starts a trilogy with the last one? I don't care about all the typical COD players who have no interest in the story or characters at all, which means i really don't want BW to cater to them. I understand that they have as much right as me to play this game, but i don't see why they should be valued higher than I am. Maybe they arn't, maybe I'm wrong, but so far the impression I'm getting is that I'm not.

I really don't want the last game in my favourite trilogy to be ruined/tampered/dumbed down to suit people who don't care about it all, who have not invested at all in any of the characters that I have, meaning that I have to watch my favourites be sidelined to cater for them.

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Redgoon23 wrote...

I don't know why everyone is so worried about Elder Scrolls. Mass Effect 3 is a much bigger game then Scyrim imo.


I probably logged the same number of hours playing Oblivion as I did playing ME1, which included 4 ME1 playthroughs.  Elder Scroll games are huge and normally take a LONG time to complete, so I think it makes sense for ME3 to not compete head to head with them during the holiday season.  

I am still going to try and stay optimistic about the possible changes BW is making in ME3.  We will find out more at E3 if the "going for mass market appeal" is going to be a bad thing.  

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 Given how many people on these forums hate ME2, and who argue that they are a major portion of BioWare's fanbase, you would assume that adding more RPG elements would be expanding their audience.

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Walker White wrote...

 Given how many people on these forums hate ME2, and who argue that they are a major portion of BioWare's fanbase, you would assume that adding more RPG elements would be expanding their audience.

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tonnactus wrote...
God forbid if a game make some sense.The idea alone that a human could beat a krogan in melee combat...
Try to wrestle a bear and tell me the results.


There are people who wrestle bears. There are instances where individuals have triumphed over bears without the assistance of power armor, military CQC training, genetic engineering, or mass effect fields. Shepard has access to all four of those things. Thanks for helping my argument, tonn!

Walker White wrote...

 Given how many people on these forums hate ME2, and who argue that they are a major portion of BioWare's fanbase, you would assume that adding more RPG elements would be expanding their audience.


Appeasing a vocal minority of mouth breathing doomsayers does not a AAA game make.

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Schneidend wrote...

tonnactus wrote...
God forbid if a game make some sense.The idea alone that a human could beat a krogan in melee combat...
Try to wrestle a bear and tell me the results.


There are people who wrestle bears. There are instances where individuals have triumphed over bears without the assistance of power armor, military CQC training, genetic engineering, or mass effect fields. Shepard has access to all four of those things. Thanks for helping my argument, tonn!


Add excessive melee combat training and experience to the bear. That's more like it.

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ok no offense but why is everyone so upset here is what i think
1-first of all pushing me 3 back pissed me off but that meant more polishing and fixing bugs so stop

2-second i played the da2 demo it doesent seem that bad so stop whining dao is what sucked

3-third yes i do agree dont take it down the da2 path take it back its own path


4-fourth they are not gonna take major rpg mechanics just because they delayed ill,beit they may take out littel ones


5-fith if they put in multiplayer the right way then it would be awesome multiplayer would be awesome just if they do it stupid like cod style thats when it would suck but if they do it in their own unique way it would be awesome


6-sixth have u seen all the competion inbetween september and december many people will choose those games over me 3 especially skyrim while i personaly think all elder scrolls suck but thats not what they think i would be one of the ones to get me3 over anything else but not other people so its a good marketing move

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MartinDN wrote...

If its delayed for a cod style multiplayer anyone feel like staging a protest in edmonton ? :(


I'm down.  Q1 in Alberta is cold, but I'm from Detroit.  I'll check the schedule and maybe catch a Wings game while there.

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Shifty Assassin wrote...

Also because Casey Hudson wants to shift to a wider audience (like Da2) possibly to appeal to share holders so there might be a chance of them dumbing it down like Da2


The only way to dumb ME3 down more than ME2 and still call it an RPG is to turn it into a TPS with talking and a general "Combat" stat.


But, they've already confirmed more RPGn.

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Hopefully it's being delayed because it won't be ready by the given date and is being held back until it is. I don't want another DA2.

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hawat333 wrote...

Add excessive melee combat training and experience to the bear. That's more like it.


So, Kuma the karate bear from Tekken versus Shepard. I'd pay to see that fight.

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Schneidend wrote...

Walker White wrote...

 Given how many people on these forums hate ME2, and who argue that they are a major portion of BioWare's fanbase, you would assume that adding more RPG elements would be expanding their audience.


Appeasing a vocal minority of mouth breathing doomsayers does not a AAA game make.


Actually, my point is that you cannot immediately conclude from the CEO remarks that RPG elements are being removed.

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Schneidend wrote...

hawat333 wrote...

Add excessive melee combat training and experience to the bear. That's more like it.


So, Kuma the karate bear from Tekken versus Shepard. I'd pay to see that fight.

There's a karate bear in Tekken? Damn, now I'm sad that I've missed those games. :D

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I really hope the reason they delayed it wasn't to just streamline it more for CoD fanboys.

After DA2 I just cannot stop thinking bad things about Bioware.

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hawat333 wrote...
There's a karate bear in Tekken? Damn, now I'm sad that I've missed those games. :D


You have indeed missed out, sir. There are in fact two karate bears in Tekken, though Panda shares Kuma's move list...and is a panda.

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Main reason:
EA learned its lesson with rushed jobs like DA2

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I don't like this turn of events.

I was a huge command & conquer fan until EA butchered the last game, for the sake of the shareholders. It was also the final game in the series. I'm so worried right now that something like this will happen to ME3.

EA should keep their hands out of the development process and leave it to their studios to make the games. I've been paying attention to EA for a long time and every time they meddle in development directly they always mess things up, always.

I hope I'm wrong, but past experiences makes me fear I'm not.

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Schneidend wrote...

There are people who wrestle bears. There are instances where individuals have triumphed over bears


Yes,young,unexperienced ones.It doesnt matter.Everyone with at least one braincell would use guns and/or biotics against a krogan and would try to prevent to allow that thing to come in melee distance.
Nothing actually prevents a krogan to use the same enhancements/armor mods that shepardt have too.All they need is money and a salarian scientist.

Modifié par tonnactus, 05 mai 2011 - 11:15 .


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You people need to learn to be patient and wait for more details on the gameplay before you run off and yell "EA RUINED MASS EFFECT 3, BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!"

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Lvl20DM wrote...

Guys, that PR statement is meaningless. They aren't delaying to remove content - that's absurd. The delay is probably related to how ridiculous Fall 2011 is looking for games - way too much competition. Or polish. It's not to make it a Gears clone.


Reguardless of what ever is released this summer, ME3 would beat them all any time of the day, month and year - for the awards and beyond.

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Whoo71 wrote...

You people need to learn to be patient and wait for more details on the gameplay before you run off and yell "EA RUINED MASS EFFECT 3, BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!"


After a while of carfully observing the same thing happen over and over again for the same reasons, you begin to be able to identify the patterns.

Again, I hope I'm wrong. Bioware is a great developer if given a budget and left alone.

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Nab20 wrote...

They need more time to decide if yes or no they will show Tali's face.


Yep this is the reason folks.
 
The owls told me so! How can they be wrong?!

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marshalleck wrote...

The only company who delays games for polish is Blizzard, so we know that's not Bioware's reason. I'm guessing they need time to phase out the "RPG aspects" of the game they'd added back in, in order to as the EA CEO put it " approach other markets." In other words, the CoD shooter crowd who hate story and dialogue and have never been even slightly interested in Mass Effect.


False. Rocksteady delayed Batman Arkham Asylum from May to August and it was stellar. I'm Sure Bioware is doing all their best to make this the best game out of the trilogy. I can wait a few more months.

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Ahh well i'm fine now just as long as bioware doesn't add multi player to sell to cod fans