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#426
Dracotamer

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So much of this information is double edged.

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ExtremeOne

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I see it now that is odd

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ExtremeOne wrote...

what video is that





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Therefore_I_Am wrote...

Has anyone even stopped to think that it's Cerberus TROOPS that are indoctrinated, and not the illusive man? The illusive man for all we know joins our cause; he's too awesome to be put down.

Although.... One thing I would be disappointed about, is the Rachni Queen being reduced to a mindless shrieking beast and won't have any dialogue whatsoever, followed by a short cameo of her.
And if the illusive man does have a role with the reapers, siding with them or is indoctrinated, no amount of cheese could ever fill such a narrative.


Completely improbable. Indoctrination is a passive effect that by all current evidence takes time. Considering Cerberus cells all take orders from TIM, and they already have first hand knowledge of the process (via their science team on the derelict reaper) it's unlikely TIM would order his soldiers in the presence of a reaper to be indoctrinated.

There's also the fact they were never shown to have anything resembling an actual military force before. Seeing as how, based on information, he has a small army now...it would require the funds that only TIM could provide.

As for the Rachni Queen, expect her to talk through that Asari chick again.

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Seboist wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Seriously, the Cerberus-fanclub mad in this thread is just delicious.

How could you not see this coming?!

Oh, and I'm with AdmiralCheez, I seriously hope TIM's reasoning is trying to get in with the Reapers and take them out from the inside. How that will work I don't know, but by GOD it would be magnificent.


We were expecting some player choice not some railoaded JRPG nonsense.

You had a choice, you made it, it didn't work out. Just like the rachni for paragons.

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How exactly is the Rachni decision "backfiring" for Paragons? Just because there's Rachni husks? Everybody else is being made into husks.


Didn't you play Dead Space?
Necromorph Pregnant's are pain in the ass if you don't shoot ONLY limbs.

Though I don't think it's going to be easy like with Pregnant's to avoid that weak spot nor kill it as fast.

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didymos1120 wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

What was the real point of Mass Effect 2  


To personally ****** you off.


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Theyre working with the motha****ing Reapers?What the hell?This makes ME2 storyline dumbed down.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

If Miranda is not in 3 . well then I fear the worst will come to Ashley in My ME 3 play through. 

Why is this Ashley's fault, again?

That'd be like me beating up Liara if there was no Garrus.


But I'll beat her up if Legion doesn't come as permanent squadmate from start.

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If someone find scans of the magazine or something to confirm this, play give us a link :)

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Mesina2 wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

If Miranda is not in 3 . well then I fear the worst will come to Ashley in My ME 3 play through. 

Why is this Ashley's fault, again?

That'd be like me beating up Liara if there was no Garrus.


But I'll beat her up if Legion doesn't come as permanent squadmate from start.


Pff. Just buy a punching bag already...

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Whats the point of Collector Base now anyhow,even Renegades sees it as giving technology to enemy.

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I am a fan big of Tali and I am very happy to hear her return, I am sure other LI characters will return also. Have faith!

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

If Miranda is not in 3 . well then I fear the worst will come to Ashley in My ME 3 play through. 

Why is this Ashley's fault, again?

That'd be like me beating up Liara if there was no Garrus.


But I'll beat her up if Legion doesn't come as permanent squadmate from start.


Pff. Just buy a punching bag already...


That was a joke.

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Gterror wrote...

Whats the point of Collector Base now anyhow,even Renegades sees it as giving technology to enemy.


My idea is that if you keep CB, Illusive Man his own terms with Reapers and his army is not indoctrinated.

Which means you get some tech and what's left of the Cerberus army for taking back Earth.
If you destroyed the base you get nothing.

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

-Tali is confirmed squadmate
"Garrus, Liara, Kaidan, Ashley and (newly confirmed) Tali are all full time members of your team if they survived the previous games."


Hmm really?

No I still don't believe! It's too good to be true! The ME1 crew can't all come back that's impossible!

(What remains of my heart is quite happy though.)

Vertigo_1 wrote..

-Wrex?
"I asked point blank about Wrex and got as close to a 'no' as I think Bioware will come at this early stage: exceutive producer Casey Hudson simply re-emphasised that such characters canplay a role and fight alongside you without necessarily being permanent squad members."


:crying:

Vertigo_1 wrote..

-No new LIs in ME3


This I really don't believe. Not that there aren't enough L.I.s already, but no more Captain Kirking? Not even with a Batarian, Salarian, Elcor, Volus, or Hanar? You know for like science or something? Mmmkay Bioware...

I expect some serious soap opera in space. Also look forward to them catfights.
^_^

Vertigo_1 wrote..

-Biotics are more potent in combat
"Biotics can use their Pull ability to rip a shield out of someone's hands" (I dont get this)


Eh what? Yeah why the hell would anyone use Shield type shields? Isn't that Kinetic Barriers are for? The human is confused.

Vertigo_1 wrote..

-Powers combine
Example given with Soldier: "Soldier still has an arcing attack called Concussive Shot, but it now behaves differently depending on the ammo ugrade he/she is using.  Cryo ammo lets you use that same trajectory to deliver a blast of ice that canfreeze every enemy in the area."


Interesting.

Vertigo_1 wrote..

-Why is Cerberus after Shepard? They are working with the Reapers
"If your wondering why we were fighting Cerberus, having worked closely with this shadowy organisation in Mass Effect 2, the answer just raises further questions.  They are wokring with the Reapers"


Really? Pretty this is pure speculation.

Vertigo_1 wrote..
-Reaperized enemies include Asari, Krogan, Rachni
"In Mass Effect 3 we'll fight the Reapers other experiments, with other species.
One is a hideously bloated pregnant Asari, her gums stripped away and a robot skeleton showing through her rotting flesh"


Erm what the hell man? Seriously that sounds like something for a Dead Space Necromorph. Are we going to be shooting Baby Human Husks too?

This is the wrong way to copy Dead Space Bioware!
=]

Copy the zero-gravity and vacuum environments not the "monster" designs. 

Vertigo_1 wrote..

"The Reapers take on the Rachni, who were already viscious insect  monsters,are covered with bulging savs of lesser creatures.  Rather than hitting their weak spot for massive damage, you want to avoid it like the plague: bursting any of these sacs before the creature is dead wit will unleash a swarm of horrible mini-rachni that crawl all over your body"

"The Reaperised Krogan wears heavy armor plates that can shear off with enough focused fire.  Once you do the creature changes its behaviour to be more defensive clutching its lurid blue intestines to its stomach as its lumbers towards you"


Surely the Reapers use thing besides Husks as infantry? Are there no little Reaper robots? *Sigh* this is what I've been fearing. We'll be fighting  Zombie things the for the majority game most likely.
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#441
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Cerberus working with Reapers? Meh, that was obvious. It was a given to happen because of Evolution. I'm not surprised.

I'm loving the 'powers combine' thing. :D

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There are no new LIs??

Cerberus is working with the Reapers???!

Somehow, I lost all desire to save the galaxy in which such thing are possible. In fact, I'm positive that I want nothing to do with such a galaxy. I'm no longer looking forward to playing that game.

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roflchoppaz wrote...

Cerberus working with Reapers? Meh, that was obvious. It was a given to happen because of Evolution. I'm not surprised.

I'm loving the 'powers combine' thing. :D


So... Shepard = Captain Planet?

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Mesina2 wrote...

That was a joke.


I know. 

I meant everyone else that basically says "If *character* isn't in ME3, I'm killing *character 2*"

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How does this mean that player choice is irrelevant.

You are a player.
You chose to work with Cerberus, a shady, terrorist organization led by a leader with obvious physical modifications questionable ethics (CERBERUS IS HUMANITY!)
You gave them the Collector Base, basically an advanced tech factory.
It bit you in the ass.


While it didn't work out very well for you, you still made that choice, and that choice imprints itself on the rest of your game.

So, yes, player choice is still valid. But it is now apparant that you can be punished BY your choices.

Assuming this is all true of course.

Oh, and Tali full-time? EPIC WIN.

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whhhaaaattttttt.....................
I thought they said they wouldn't tell anyone why Cerberus wants Shepard dead....awww i feel bad for reading it now.
The only reasons i can think of with out it being stupid are that the reapers maybe tricked The illusive man into thinking they might spare a few humans or make them slaves that are not indoctrinated or something

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...or perhaps the alliance brass has been indoctrinated and cerberus are trying to stop you and them because of it? so shep may be working for the wrong side and not even know it...

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Does the asari bile attract the incoming hoard when you shoot her?

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KainrycKarr wrote...

How does this mean that player choice is irrelevant.

You are a player.
You chose to work with Cerberus, a shady, terrorist organization led by a leader with obvious physical modifications questionable ethics (CERBERUS IS HUMANITY!)
You gave them the Collector Base, basically an advanced tech factory.
It bit you in the ass.

I think what most people who are butthurt are talking about, is that in ME2 you didn't get a choice of working with/for Cerberus. Regardless of the whole "if you don't find anything down there, we can all go our separate ways" line, you don't get a "F*** no, I'm not working for you, period." choice when talking with TIM. Working for Cerberus was the part of the plot in ME2, not something optional.

But really, you're right in that though. You're stuck working for a terrorist organisation that wants to put humanity on top by any means, regardless of how it affects aliens and humans alike. Remember; Cerberus won't think twice about assassinating another human to achieve their goals. And... you want to give said organisation a giant tech factory... why...?

But just as a reminder that Renegades are being penalised; The choices you make in the game have consequences, apparently for Paragon and Renegade.

Apparently if you choose to spare the Rachni, you now have Rachni husks(or something), so one could say that sparing the Rachni was a bad choice, just in the same way that giving the Collector base to Cerberus was a bad choice. So both Paragon and Renegade have consequences, not just Renegade.

It's called "Choice and Consequence."

Though I doubt either of those choices will mean the end of existence. Some choices have greater consequences than others. Deal with it.

It's also a unique imprint on your game, it's how you chose to play it. If your choices bite you in the ass, so be it. You have the ability to create a new game if you don't like how the current one is playing out.

Shifty Assassin wrote...

whhhaaaattttttt.....................
I thought they said they wouldn't tell anyone why Cerberus wants Shepard dead....awww i feel bad for reading it now.
The only reasons i can think of with out it being stupid are that the reapers maybe tricked The illusive man into thinking they might spare a few humans or make them slaves that are not indoctrinated or something

I can image that TIM has been slowly indoctrinated over the period of years from when the comic took place, that way he probably wouldn't even know that he had been indoctrinated, then when the Reapers reach the galaxy TIM finally cracks?

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Renegades don't have to make every renegade choice btw - you can use your own brain to make informed decisions as you RP.