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I think the point of the last comic ME: Evolution (like it was with previous ones) was to tell something important about TIM, like what's up with those freaky eyes. So having read it I find it quite plausible that TIM got indoctrinated by the Reapers. And judging by the Arrival DLC indoctrinated people may not show any signs until they are in close vicinity to the Reapers or their artifacts. So Cerberus going after Shepard because the Boss got indoctrinated is quite plausible and wouldn't surprise me at all. Cerberus operatives themselves may have been indoctrinated as well - if you remember the picture of some Cerberus operative from GI who's arms were showing suspiciously familiar symptoms of huskification, like Paul Grayson from ME:Retribution. Watch out for the last book - ME: Deception. There will be something about TIM and Cerberus, maybe something that would shed some light about their motives.

As for the rest of the info - nothing unexpected. No new LI makes sense, because there are too many unfinished ones already.
Not including Tali as a squadmate would have brought about the Rage of the Talimances, considering other LIs are squaddies, so no surprise here as well.

Decisions that would bite you in the ass? Well, I don't believe that all Rachni were indoctrinated again or that giving in Collectors Base would screw Shepard in some major, game ruining way. But I do believe that squadmates and their loyalty will play a major role in recruiting other races for help. I can already see how it will play out with Mordin, genophage cure and krogans.

Modifié par Aramintai, 06 mai 2011 - 09:45 .


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Jebel Krong wrote...

Renegades don't have to make every renegade choice btw - you can use your own brain to make informed decisions as you RP.

Naturally. Neither do paragons, it's all in the individuals playing style, and every major choice will likely have some consequence.

Saying that Renegades are being penalised or that their choices don't mean anything is nonsense.

The same also applies to any of the apparent bad choices that Paragons make.

If you make a bad choice, it comes back to bite you. Simple as that.

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Did Visceral merge with Bioware while I wasn't looking? I mean it explains the pregnants and well the insect pregnants.

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Admoniter wrote...

Did Visceral merge with Bioware while I wasn't looking? I mean it explains the pregnants and well the insect pregnants.

Well, they are not complete strangers being both owned by EA. Ideas sharing maybe?

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Aramintai wrote...

Admoniter wrote...

Did Visceral merge with Bioware while I wasn't looking? I mean it explains the pregnants and well the insect pregnants.

Well, they are not complete strangers being both owned by EA. Ideas sharing maybe?


Well Bioware are liaising with DICE on the sound design, why can't they liaise with Visceral on the enemy design? They're all part of the same big happy EA family.

I don't have a problem with fighting Necromorphs in ME3. It emphasises the horror of the Reapers.

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My last hope for Cerberus is that it is only TIM who is after Shepard and at some point late in the game we can get rid of him and rally Cerberus behind us and become the leader ourselves.

No new LI's? I made a Shepard without any romance for the purpose of being open to someone completley new without cheating - forever alone?

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Jebel Krong

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Troodon80 wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

Renegades don't have to make every renegade choice btw - you can use your own brain to make informed decisions as you RP.

Naturally. Neither do paragons, it's all in the individuals playing style, and every major choice will likely have some consequence.

Saying that Renegades are being penalised or that their choices don't mean anything is nonsense.

The same also applies to any of the apparent bad choices that Paragons make.

If you make a bad choice, it comes back to bite you. Simple as that.


unless it's a forced situation: i'm looking at you "ME3 trial" and any possible repercussions for changing LI, when you clearly broke up with them, first.

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Well I'm a bit confused as with the Cerberus with teh Reapers iomgiodlololol statement made by PC Gamer but... I'm not surprised. I mean Illusive Man had a total "Just As Planned" face in the end of ME2 when you handed him the base but... I'll wait for more details. It's too early to believe this... gah!

elektrego wrote...

My last hope for Cerberus is that it is only TIM who is after Shepard and at some point late in the game we can get rid of him and rally Cerberus behind us and become the leader ourselves.

No new LI's? I made a Shepard without any romance for the purpose of being open to someone completley new without cheating - forever alone?


Forever Alone :unsure:

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Great to see Garrus as a permanent squaddie! :D

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Troodon80 wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

Renegades don't have to make every renegade choice btw - you can use your own brain to make informed decisions as you RP.

Naturally. Neither do paragons, it's all in the individuals playing style, and every major choice will likely have some consequence.

Saying that Renegades are being penalised or that their choices don't mean anything is nonsense.

The same also applies to any of the apparent bad choices that Paragons make.

If you make a bad choice, it comes back to bite you. Simple as that.


You're right us Renegades were able to see the new council after sacrificing the old one in ME1...........oh wait.

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Happy at the news that there will be no new love interests as there's so many existing ones. Now i just need Miri to be confirmed.
I too hope that at some point we will get the choice to stage a coup of Cerberus or destroy it completely.

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elektrego wrote...

My last hope for Cerberus is that it is only TIM who is after Shepard and at some point late in the game we can get rid of him and rally Cerberus behind us and become the leader ourselves.

No new LI's? I made a Shepard without any romance for the purpose of being open to someone completley new without cheating - forever alone?


Note that "no new LIs" doesn't say anything for the possibility of starting a new romance with an existing squadmate--if you missed the chance to do so in previous games, perhaps you may have a second shot at it here.

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I'm not pro-cerberus. not at all but it's gloomy ...

The reapers would therefore asked Shepard to destroy the collectors tightly controlled by Harbinger, and give it to Cerberus, which is also controlled by the reapers ?

They have threatened their own human reaper construction?

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Mesina2 wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

If Miranda is not in 3 . well then I fear the worst will come to Ashley in My ME 3 play through. 

Why is this Ashley's fault, again?

That'd be like me beating up Liara if there was no Garrus.


But I'll beat her up if Legion doesn't come as permanent squadmate from start.

   



Oh its not her fault but acting like a stuck up ****** on horizon My Shepard has no need for her 

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Sylvianus wrote...

I'm not pro-cerberus. not at all but it's gloomy ...

The reapers would therefore asked Shepard to destroy the collectors tightly controlled by Harbinger, and give it to Cerberus, which is also controlled by the reapers ?

They have threatened their own human reaper construction?


Clearly TIM was being controlled by Harbinger's jealous little brother Barbinger. It all makes sense now.

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

-Tali is confirmed squadmate



This Thread needs more Tali-love


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Modifié par Elo001, 06 mai 2011 - 12:49 .


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I couldn't resist and I read it. Damn it!

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Oh my...Liara is permanent squad member? So, tell me, why the heck we needed the LotSB then?

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Maybe TIM thinks it's better to join the gods than remain mortal so to speak.. Thats one way of gaining "human dominance" and survival, tough a very twisted one.

Question is was TIM indoctrinated in me2 already, and did Harbinger actually pull a fast one on us? Or maybe he got indoctrinated during retribution, with all those reaper artifacts and parts he used with Grayson.  

Or what if he is not even indoctrinated, what if he is willingly working with the reapers?

Jack Harper, what have you dooone!?

Modifié par armass, 06 mai 2011 - 01:28 .


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ExtremeOne wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

I hope most of you realize that TIM is part Husk right? Also I don't necessarily like that Cerberus is working for the Reapers now but I could see them going to Saren route. I think would be more interesting if it turned out if Cerberus is split on going after Shepard and only part of Cerberus is trying to kill Shepard and other half is trying to help the galaxy.

   



If that is true then maybe that will make sense but it still ask the question of what was the real point of Mass Effect 2 


The point was that the Collector's were a distraction to and keep everyone busy and off balance while the reapers try to sneak in throught the Alpha relay.

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By story being more like ME1, I hope that doesn't mean we'll have the same static camera angles and boring conversations.

Apart from the news about Wrex, everything sounds pretty good.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

While there is indeed an article in PC Gamer, keep in mind unless the article says "Casey Hudson said..."
or similar, what they are writing is their take on the information they have seen (this applies to ALL media/magazines/websites, etc). Don't get too worked up on any one item until you hear it confirmed by BioWare someplace.

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I hope so, because this information is very very very......10^9 more verys....... bad


Vertigo_1 wrote...

-Why is Cerberus after Shepard? They are working with the Reapers
"If your wondering why we were fighting Cerberus, having worked closely with this shadowy organisation in Mass Effect 2, the answer just raises further questions.  They are wokring with the Reapers"


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#473
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Surely the Reapers use thing besides Husks as infantry? Are there no little Reaper robots? *Sigh* this is what I've been fearing. We'll be fighting Zombie things the for the majority game most likely.

Sorry I can’t provide a link, but there are “ground reapers.” I’ve seen pictures.

You gave them the Collector Base, basically an advanced tech factory.


I would have added the phrase “that melts people,” but that’s just my quibble.

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Gterror wrote...

Theyre working with the motha****ing Reapers?What the hell?This makes ME2 storyline dumbed down.


Really?  That's quite a feat.  I didn't know that dumbing it down any more was even possible.  Got give credit where it is due I suppose.

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VolusNamedBob wrote...

By story being more like ME1, I hope that doesn't mean we'll have the same static camera angles and boring conversations.

Apart from the news about Wrex, everything sounds pretty good.


It's probably referring to story structure.

ME1 had an opening series of missions, then set you loose on the galaxy to tackle a series of essential plot missions in whatever order you chose, then finished up with an endgame series of missions.

ME2 is broken into "chunks" separated by main-plot missions, where the player is expected to tackle whatever recruitement/loyalty/etc. missions are made available at the the time during the wait for the next plot mission.

Given the "Dragon Age: Origins" approach to Shepard's primary goal this time around, it's easy to see why they went back to a more ME1-like story structure--because Dragon Age: Origins had a similar structure, itself. Essentially, you'll escape the invasion of Earth and then be presented with all of the worlds you can visit to gather ally races, which you can tackle in pretty much any order. There may be some differences in the formula, but that's what it sounds like at this phase.