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If they don't bring the ME 2 crew back and basically make ME 3 into a remake of ME 1 . well they will catch hell from us ME 2 players .

Translation into English: If they don't tailor the game exactly to my needs (I don't care about what anyone else feels about the game), I will aimlessly shout through the windows of the Bioware HQ until someone tells me to leave.

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LGTX wrote...

Every second post questions an organization working for the same species that produced a mass mind-control mechanism which later came in direct contact with given organization's leader. I mean, really, people? Ever since I read Evolution I figured Timmy got an indoctrination time-bomb burned in his brain, and this only clears supicions for me. And if you're here to argue about the lack of, hm, complexity in their motives, than that's already soil better left for Bioware to figure out themselves. Because, you know, it's them making the game. Having story arcs planned years in advance, all that.

    



Bioware better come with something better than that . In Mass Effect 2 we are told things are different with Cerberus  and they want to destroy the reapers and collectors. Now in 3 Bioware makes them a evil group of bastards . what that reeks of is bull sh*t story telling in ME 2.   

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We get most of our old team back! Awesome! :wizard: That said, and since he apparently isn't a permanent squad member, I want to see Wrex do something improbably awesome with his screen time!

And I'm very looking forward to see that Adept "Melee" Biotic Power in action! It's going to be so tough waiting for the game!

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TheOtherTheoG wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

If they don't bring the ME 2 crew back and basically make ME 3 into a remake of ME 1 . well they will catch hell from us ME 2 players .

Translation into English: If they don't tailor the game exactly to my needs (I don't care about what anyone else feels about the game), I will aimlessly shout through the windows of the Bioware HQ until someone tells me to leave.

   




I will say this in english . If they do not make any of the ME 2 squad part of the squad in 3 . Then they are basically saying Mass Effect 2 was nothing more than a side quest and its characters are worthless and mean nothing in the ME universe . so far ME 3 is already looking like a high def remake of ME 1 with its story and Cerberus being evil 

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ExtremeOne wrote...

LGTX wrote...

Every second post questions an organization working for the same species that produced a mass mind-control mechanism which later came in direct contact with given organization's leader. I mean, really, people? Ever since I read Evolution I figured Timmy got an indoctrination time-bomb burned in his brain, and this only clears supicions for me. And if you're here to argue about the lack of, hm, complexity in their motives, than that's already soil better left for Bioware to figure out themselves. Because, you know, it's them making the game. Having story arcs planned years in advance, all that.

    



Bioware better come with something better than that . In Mass Effect 2 we are told things are different with Cerberus  and they want to destroy the reapers and collectors. Now in 3 Bioware makes them a evil group of bastards . what that reeks of is bull sh*t story telling in ME 2.   


And that overthrows my argument in what way? I'm not here to argue opinions, please - they just have a tendency to not coincide with each other. I'm simply stating how lore facts clearly led Cerberus to where it is in ME3 (according to PC Gamer).

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ExtremeOne wrote...

I will say this in english . If they do not make any of the ME 2 squad part of the squad in 3 . Then they are basically saying Mass Effect 2 was nothing more than a side quest and its characters are worthless and mean nothing in the ME universe . so far ME 3 is already looking like a high def remake of ME 1 with its story and Cerberus being evil 


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I will say this in English: if they do not make any of the ME2 squad part of the squad in ME3 * then, IN MY OPINION, they are basically saying Mass Effect 2 was nothing more than a side quest and its characters are worthless and mean nothing in the ME universe. So far ME 3 is already looking like a high definition remake of ME1, with its story and Cerberus being evil.

*Garrus and Tali are already confirmed, and Bioware is saving information about other characters for later reveals. No need to panic yet.

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Yay let's all make conclusions based on a sloppy article under the impression that Ashley is a femshep variant! Yay!!!

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ExtremeOne wrote...

TheOtherTheoG wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

If they don't bring the ME 2 crew back and basically make ME 3 into a remake of ME 1 . well they will catch hell from us ME 2 players .

Translation into English: If they don't tailor the game exactly to my needs (I don't care about what anyone else feels about the game), I will aimlessly shout through the windows of the Bioware HQ until someone tells me to leave.

   




I will say this in english . If they do not make any of the ME 2 squad part of the squad in 3 . Then they are basically saying Mass Effect 2 was nothing more than a side quest and its characters are worthless and mean nothing in the ME universe . so far ME 3 is already looking like a high def remake of ME 1 with its story and Cerberus being evil 


I think it's still too soon to assume that. I'd say they'll probably incorporate some ME2 characters in the 3rd (some devs already hinted as such, I believe, but don't quote me on that).

The truth is, we still have very little to go by to see for ourselves. A teaser, two screenshots and little else. Until we get to see more, the magazine's takes on the information given to them is as good as anyone's. They could be extrapolating from bits and pieces of scattered info. And even then, these things are subject to change. We're still a long way from seeing the completed game.

Bottom line, we still need to wait for more info we can get directly from BioWare and see it for what it is. :)

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Iohanna - some people are already considering ME3 **** which is odd.

Modifié par PnXMarcin1PL, 06 mai 2011 - 09:08 .


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Legion, Mordin and Jack are pretty much confirmed to return to some extent, so ME2 wasn't "completely pointless".

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Iohanna wrote...
Bottom line, we still need to wait for more info we can get directly from BioWare and see it for what it is. :)


Nice to see someone with sense on this forum, and the restraint not to leap to judgements about a game we know very little of.

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Cerberus working with the reapers?

*wait for nerdrage...3, 2, 1, GO!

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BULL****, I CALL BULL****. IT CAN'T BE. NO WAY. I'M IN DENIAL. WHAT THE ****??? The sole purpose of Cerberus resurrecting Shepard was to FIGHT THE REAPERS. WHAT THE HELL BIOWARE??? THERE MUST BE A TWIST. I CAN'T ACCEPT IT. GOD PLEASE, DON'T GO ON INDOCRINATION ROUTE, SAREN 2.0 OR GREEDINESS FOR POWER. PLEASE. PLEASE DON'T.

*calms down, sees Priestly's post

I'm not even raging because my main Paragade Sole Survivor gave them the Base, but because it completely ruins Cerberus and Tim and it makes no freakin' sense.

I'll wait for a twist on the game or it being just a bad interpretation on PC Gamer (highly possible).

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aksoileau wrote...

Yay let's all make conclusions based on a sloppy article under the impression that Ashley is a femshep variant! Yay!!!

Aye if the people writing this didn't even realise that was Ashley it's not realy trustworthy. So take everything said here with a pinch of salt. In fact take everything said about ME3 that isn't a clear dev quote that can't be misinterpreted with a pinch of salt.

Modifié par Manic Sheep, 06 mai 2011 - 09:25 .


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Manic Sheep wrote...

aksoileau wrote...

Yay let's all make conclusions based on a sloppy article under the impression that Ashley is a femshep variant! Yay!!!

Aye if the people writing this didn't even realise that was Ashley it's not realy trustworthy. So take everything said here with a pitch of salt. In fact take everything said about ME3 that isn't a clear dev quote that can't be misinterpreted with a pinch of salt.


Chris Priestly said as much on page 2 of this very thread, but most people have ignored that and leapt to their own conclusion anyway. Oh well.

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PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

Iohanna - some people are already considering ME3 **** which is odd.


I know, right? It's such a weird concept to me. But, to each its own, I suppose. :P

candidate88766 wrote...

Nice to see someone with sense on this forum, and the restraint not to leap to judgements about a game we know very little of.


Hehe, I do try. Let's just say I'm doing fairly well considering the madness that will be the long wait until Q1 2012! :D

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Cool. Hopefully Kirrahe constitutes as a major character. Maybe he'll be on the Salarian homeworld, briefing him of his mission and maybe supporting him.

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Iohanna wrote...

candidate88766 wrote...

Nice to see someone with sense on this forum, and the restraint not to leap to judgements about a game we know very little of.


Hehe, I do try. Let's just say I'm doing fairly well considering the madness that will be the long wait until Q1 2012! :D


I wouldn't worry, we have Portal 2, Deus Ex, Skyrim, Battlefield 3 and a plethora of other games to pass the time with. Thats going to be an expensive Christmas :?

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..Li--.. Liara? ..LIARA IS BACK?!?! *Dies with nerdyness*

And the whole Cerberas thing kinda makes sense to me.. I always thought it (Probably for the wrong reasons), but TIM's eyes always reminded me of Saren's eyes, so I always thought maybe he was slightly under their mind control.

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I'm not going to judge anything about the game until i have played it to the end!

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Manic Sheep wrote...

aksoileau wrote...

Yay let's all make conclusions based on a sloppy article under the impression that Ashley is a femshep variant! Yay!!!

Aye if the people writing this didn't even realise that was Ashley it's not realy trustworthy. So take everything said here with a pinch of salt. In fact take everything said about ME3 that isn't a clear dev quote that can't be misinterpreted with a pinch of salt.


Just because one piece of info is erroneous doesn't mean the rest of it is. I really hope the Cerberus working for Reapers bit is BS but I ain't holding my breath.

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People people please calm down and use some logic here. Now the whole Reaper thing could simply be if you decided to keep the base. If you don't see TIM getting indoctrinated inside the Collector Base you don't have very good foresight. TIM putting a bounty on your head is pretty much the only conclusion if you decided to destroy the base. Either way this happens every single time new information gets released. You all just need to take a deep breath and realize we don't have all the facts yet!!!

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Seboist wrote...

Manic Sheep wrote...

aksoileau wrote...

Yay let's all make conclusions based on a sloppy article under the impression that Ashley is a femshep variant! Yay!!!

Aye if the people writing this didn't even realise that was Ashley it's not realy trustworthy. So take everything said here with a pinch of salt. In fact take everything said about ME3 that isn't a clear dev quote that can't be misinterpreted with a pinch of salt.


Just because one piece of info is erroneous doesn't mean the rest of it is. I really hope the Cerberus working for Reapers bit is BS but I ain't holding my breath.


Oh I know, it may be true. I already voice some concern with this earlier but it should not be treated as a fact until we actually see proof of it, mistakes in the article don’t exactly help its credibility, if there is oen there may be others and is not worth really freaking out about just yet. Same goes for everything else really.

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People people please calm down and use some logic here. Now the whole Reaper thing could simply be if you decided to keep the base. If you don't see TIM getting indoctrinated inside the Collector Base you don't have very good foresight.


That would only be if TIM was stupid enough to actually go inside the base himself. Which he should not do if he has any sense with something this risky. He should not be on site with the risky experiments and if there is risk of indoctrination people should not be coming and going.

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Seboist wrote...

Just because one piece of info is erroneous doesn't mean the rest of it is. I really hope the Cerberus working for Reapers bit is BS but I ain't holding my breath.


Well, of course, but where one mistake exists, so may others. And when said mistake is a glaring one, that really should ratchet up one's skepticism about the rest, even if only a little. 

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I do hope what they said is true: all of your weapons come back from ME2 to ME3.

I just hope the ALL of the DLC weapons come back. I want my Collector Rifle back =P

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Gorskijesih wrote...

Cerberus is working with the Reapers? A lot of people speculated this, and I have to admit I was slightly anticipating it, but after reading Evolution, I really really wonder how they'll make it make sense.

And just making TIM indoctrinated overnight doesn't count.

He's had years to be indoctrinated. Read the comics.