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[Iohanna]

ExtremeOne wrote...

I just want them to tell us that renagde players will be rewarded for some choices . 

Give them time to settle down the details. I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised.

[Chuvvy]

Cerberus is working for the Reapers? They better have a better reason than hurr durr indoctrination, or Saren 2.0.

[ExtremeOne]

Iohanna wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

I just want them to tell us that renagde players will be rewarded for some choices . 

Give them time to settle down the details. I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised.

   



I look forward to finding out 

[xanothis23]

I wouldn't exactly say we have no proof that being a renegade bad for your story. Look at ME2, you can make it a very quiet game if you decide to follow the "I can bludgeon pretty hard" mentality in the first game, you get a lot less emails in game, even several little side quests won't be there, such as the illium illegal merchandise quest and the "burning crescendo" message from the rachni queen. Admittedly these seem small in the grand scope but I recall reading somewhere about choices like that having a much greater impact in 3 than they did in 2.

Also I'm gonna call it and say the rachni help you save earth because you can hear them singing on the moon if you spare the queen before you do the rogue vi mission

[Mecher3k]

I honestly think PC Gamer is purposely coming up with BS just to sell copies. And I'm an fan of PC gaming.

We've already had two devs pretty much say a lot what they said is just outright wrong. Like the Asari husk's not being pregnant.

And xanothis23, do you hear that singing just when you save her before hand, or is it all the time? I never bothered to check in any of my 9 playthroughs of Mass Effect 1. Yes I said 9 playthroughs.

[ExtremeOne]

Mecher3k wrote...

I honestly think PC Gamer is purposely coming up with BS just to sell copies. And I'm an fan of PC gaming.

We've already had two devs pretty much say a lot what they said is just outright wrong. Like the Asari husk's not being pregnant.

And xanothis23, do you hear that singing just when you save her before hand, or is it all the time? I never bothered to check in any of my 9 playthroughs of Mass Effect 1. Yes I said 9 playthroughs.

      




If the mag is wrong then EA should demand that a retraction be given by PC Gamer for the wrong info in the article .   I think PC Gamer has the info righjt and EA is pissed that the story info got out some how 

[InvaderErl]

PC Gamer actually took a picture of Ashley and said its either a new character or a FemShep variant.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 09 mai 2011 - 11:43 .

[xanothis23]

My friend told me about it a couple months so I immediately booted ME1 up and went to the moon, and heard it...I haven't actually checked on a Shep. That hasn't saved her already or killed her, I have four and only one killed the queen, I'll have to check

[rubyreader]

Gorskijesih wrote...

Cerberus is working with the Reapers? A lot of people speculated this, and I have to admit I was slightly anticipating it, but after reading Evolution, I really really wonder how they'll make it make sense.

And just making TIM indoctrinated overnight doesn't count.

Figured this was the Renegade reason for their change of heart.

Hopefully it will be an interesting read as to why (might be another Saren self-deception).

But I mean the track record for successfully researching Reaper tech is pretty poor. 3/4th's of the time they eat your brains, the last we just don't know.

Paragon might simply be a question of will the Reapers allow humanity (or maybe just TIM depending on if you think Cerberus is REALLY about helping humanity or more selfserving to TIM's goals) to live if they are helped in exterminating everyone else.

[rubyreader]

Lizardviking wrote...

gorrillasnake wrote...

Cerberus working for the Reapers??

I had hoped Bioware would avoid using the idiot ball again.

Might simply be indoctrination...at least for Renegades.

[xanothis23]

Small speculation from reading summaries on evolution...obviously the obelisk or whatever was a reaper device, at least obviously to me...TIM was affected by it, so maybe he's been indoctrinated this whole time, and being used as a sleeper agent for the reapers

[Cirno]

No love interest for ME3? So much for hoping to cheat on both Tali and Liara to be the ultimate ****.

[rubyreader]

rubyreader wrote...

Gorskijesih wrote...

Cerberus is working with the Reapers? A lot of people speculated this, and I have to admit I was slightly anticipating it, but after reading Evolution, I really really wonder how they'll make it make sense.

And just making TIM indoctrinated overnight doesn't count.

Figured this was the Renegade reason for their change of heart.

Hopefully it will be an interesting read as to why (might be another Saren self-deception).

But I mean the track record for successfully researching Reaper tech is pretty poor. 3/4th's of the time they eat your brains, the last we just don't know.

Paragon might simply be a question of will the Reapers allow humanity (or maybe just TIM depending on if you think Cerberus is REALLY about helping humanity or more selfserving to TIM's goals) to live if they are helped in exterminating everyone else.

ExtremeOne wrote...

I'm reading the scans . It
clearly says that Cerberus is working with the reapers and giving the
base to them in 2 was giving it to the enemy . So Bioware basically is
saying Mass Effect 2's story of Cerberus changing and working with them
was total bull sh*t  . More so us renegade players are being told in so
many words our choices do not matter all . Its clear what Bioware did
was they pleased and served the anti Cerberus fans and paragin fans . Oh
that idea about player choice in Mass Effect games matter thats also
full of sh*t as well . 

Without knowing the future there is no way to know how things turn out. What might make sense in the moment may be completely wrong in hindsight. Given Cerberus hunts you down REGARDLESS, I don't see how the Renegade players have been exactly harmed. But even if they are, well sometimes that's life. You make your decisions and sometimes it turns out better or worse. Admittedly the Paragons should have some thinkgs go against them, but we don't know enough to even BEGIN making those judgements. I've heard that Shep can pick up enemy weapons for one thing. Perhaps if these Cerberus troops are backed by Reapers, their gear is that much more awesome when you pick over it (balanced by their being harder to kill of course).

[shep82]

JaegerBane wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...


I'm reading the scans . It clearly says that Cerberus is working with the reapers and giving the base to them in 2 was giving it to the enemy . So Bioware basically is saying Mass Effect 2's story of Cerberus changing and working with them was total bull sh*t  . More so us renegade players are being told in so many words our choices do not matter all . Its clear what Bioware did was they pleased and served the anti Cerberus fans and paragin fans . Oh that idea about player choice in Mass Effect games matter thats also full of sh*t as well . 

 

I don't really understand why this is such an issue. TIM and Cerberus proved time and time again that they were callous to the point of being irresponsible, so why are you surprised that giving them a massive stash of Reaper tech has ended up like this? I mean, if you stuck your hand into a paper shredder would you be surprised that it chopped your fingers off?

Player choice is about allowing the player to make their own decisions. If the player makes stupid decisions then it's not really a fault of the game that things go bad, now is it?

Agree 100%. I'm sure this will be an awesome game with an awesome story on how Cerberus is working for the reapers. BTW has anyone considered that TIM could be pretending to work for them in order to gain their tech?

[InvaderErl]

I've also considered a possibility wherein Cerberus has been indoctrinated ala the base in Arrival but The Illusive Man has not and approaches Shepard for help.

Point is there are numerous ways for that situation to play out.

Regardless however Cerberus end up playing out as long as Shepard eventually gets access to the tech they gained from the Collector base Renegades are hardly being screwed over.

We know that there multiple endings that are going to vary wildly from one another, I can't imagine that they're not going to take that into account.

I think people really need more solid info (preferably from a magazine not getting month old information wrong) before they go jumping the gun.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 10 mai 2011 - 12:39 .

[ExtremeOne]

rubyreader wrote...

rubyreader wrote...

Gorskijesih wrote...

Cerberus is working with the Reapers? A lot of people speculated this, and I have to admit I was slightly anticipating it, but after reading Evolution, I really really wonder how they'll make it make sense.

And just making TIM indoctrinated overnight doesn't count.

Figured this was the Renegade reason for their change of heart.

Hopefully it will be an interesting read as to why (might be another Saren self-deception).

But I mean the track record for successfully researching Reaper tech is pretty poor. 3/4th's of the time they eat your brains, the last we just don't know.

Paragon might simply be a question of will the Reapers allow humanity (or maybe just TIM depending on if you think Cerberus is REALLY about helping humanity or more selfserving to TIM's goals) to live if they are helped in exterminating everyone else.

ExtremeOne wrote...

I'm reading the scans . It
clearly says that Cerberus is working with the reapers and giving the
base to them in 2 was giving it to the enemy . So Bioware basically is
saying Mass Effect 2's story of Cerberus changing and working with them
was total bull sh*t  . More so us renegade players are being told in so
many words our choices do not matter all . Its clear what Bioware did
was they pleased and served the anti Cerberus fans and paragin fans . Oh
that idea about player choice in Mass Effect games matter thats also
full of sh*t as well . 

Without knowing the future there is no way to know how things turn out. What might make sense in the moment may be completely wrong in hindsight. Given Cerberus hunts you down REGARDLESS, I don't see how the Renegade players have been exactly harmed. But even if they are, well sometimes that's life. You make your decisions and sometimes it turns out better or worse. Admittedly the Paragons should have some thinkgs go against them, but we don't know enough to even BEGIN making those judgements. I've heard that Shep can pick up enemy weapons for one thing. Perhaps if these Cerberus troops are backed by Reapers, their gear is that much more awesome when you pick over it (balanced by their being harder to kill of course).

   



I do not give a sh*t about some weapon I pick up is that some f**king reward for being a renegade player. They better not say choices from 1 and 2 will have impact in 3 . Because us renegade players know thats full of Sh*t   

[bald man in a boat]

I'm curious as to when it is that Cerberus supposedly changed? I was under the impression they were still a group of d-bags in ME2.

Modifié par bald man in a boat, 10 mai 2011 - 12:48 .

[ExtremeOne]

InvaderErl wrote...

I've also considered a possibility wherein Cerberus has been indoctrinated ala the base in Arrival but The Illusive Man has not and approaches Shepard for help.

Point is there are numerous ways for that situation to play out.

Regardless however Cerberus end up playing out as long as Shepard eventually gets access to the tech they gained from the Collector base Renegades are hardly being screwed over.

We know that there multiple endings that are going to vary wildly from one another, I can't imagine that they're not going to take that into account.

I think people really need more solid info (preferably from a magazine not getting month old information wrong) before they go jumping the gun.

   




Oh jumping the gun hell the OXM UK article basically in so many words says renegade players will be made to look stupid in the game . If Bioware makes us look stupid then they better make paragon players look stupid as well . Choices have a effect no matter what side of the system you are on . Its high time Bioware remembers that . 

[InvaderErl]

ExtremeOne wrote...


Oh jumping the gun hell the OXM UK article basically in so many words says renegade players will be made to look stupid in the game . If Bioware makes us look stupid then they better make paragon players look stupid as well . Choices have a effect no matter what side of the system you are on . Its high time Bioware remembers that .

   


From the OXM interview thread.

http://social.biowar...3/index/7341633

I: ME2 end, cerberus enemies in ME3, punishing renegades?

Casey Hudson: not punishing but you will see different results of that, as TIM obviously  benefits from that resource, but it doesn't punish renegades, it just means some end-scenarious may be different or harder to get.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 10 mai 2011 - 12:52 .

[ExtremeOne]

InvaderErl wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...


Oh jumping the gun hell the OXM UK article basically in so many words says renegade players will be made to look stupid in the game . If Bioware makes us look stupid then they better make paragon players look stupid as well . Choices have a effect no matter what side of the system you are on . Its high time Bioware remembers that .

   


From the OXM interview thread.

http://social.biowar...3/index/7341633

I: ME2 end, cerberus enemies in ME3, punishing renegades?

Casey Hudson: not punishing but you will see different results of that, as TIM obviously  benefits from that resource, but it doesn't punish renegades, it just means some end-scenarious may be different or harder to get.

    



what the hell end game scenarious effects only .  Nah its not a punishment ist just a straight up F U to renegade players . Oh and what about paragons what end game scenarious effects will they have . Oh let me guess none at all .  

[InvaderErl]

Methinks you're seeing what you want to see.

[ExtremeOne]

InvaderErl wrote...

Methinks you're seeing what you want to see.

   


He can say its not a punishment all he wants to . But unless Paragon players have a effect added to their choices it is a punishment .