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#151
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ExtremeOne wrote...

Cerberus working with the reapers that is dumb and makes no sense . So basically the story in 2 about Cerberus wanting to stop the reapers and collectors was bull sh*t .


Perhaps TIM wanted to become buds with the Reapers, and this was why he wanted the base...so he could Ascend to Greatness!!!! 

He probably has similar motives to Saren.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

So dude.

All that stuff they said about squadmates, combat, and story progression?

I am stoked for this game.

Pros:
Combat changes and gameplay
Liara, Kaidan and Ash back as squadmates
Wrex, Mordin and Legion are in the game

Cons: everything else.

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ExtremeOne wrote...

read the scans and see the part about Cerberus and the part  where they ask Casey about wrex being Mass Effect 3 .  If this mag had bad info why would they be asking Casey Hudson about wrex being in ME 3. If all the info is wrong . 


Casey pretty much confirms Wrex isn't a squad member. However, at no point does Casey mention anything about Cerberus' motives - if he had, they'd credit the statement with his name.

Until Bioware actually confirms it themselves just assume that it MAY be a misinterpretation - PC Gamer assuming that because Cerberus is an antagonist they must be working with the Reapers, which may be wrong.

I'm not trying to argue with you, just trying to show you that you have no reason to be annoyed (yet). Think positive B)

Modifié par candidate88766, 05 mai 2011 - 09:55 .


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Indoctrinated TIM vs Shepard + Jack in a tag-team boxing match as the finale for ME3.

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Shadowrun1177 wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

Cerberus working with the reapers that is dumb and makes no sense . So basically the story in 2 about Cerberus wanting to stop the reapers and collectors was bull sh*t .

Not necessarily.  TIM may be a victim here.  Or he may have a plan to double-cross the Reapers or something.

Or PC Gamer got it wrong.

   

I hope we get the honest truth about this now . No longer can they hide behind Oh we can't discuss that  part anymore crap . 


Well they can keep hiding behind it especially if it's like other have said and PC Gamer is just making assumptions about Cerberus working for the Reapers cause Cerberus is attacking Shepard in ME 3.

   



Ok fine they want to hide behind it then if the game comes out and it has this same stupid idea in it . what will be their answer then . will they be able to hide from it then .  

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jlb524 wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

Cerberus working with the reapers that is dumb and makes no sense . So basically the story in 2 about Cerberus wanting to stop the reapers and collectors was bull sh*t .


Perhaps TIM wanted to become buds with the Reapers, and this was why he wanted the base...so he could Ascend to Greatness!!!! 

He probably has similar motives to Saren.



Hey! Remember TIM's speech in one of ME2's endings?

JOKER: But Shepard is dead. What are we supposed to do?

TIMMY  : We move on. This was a victory. Humanity will perservere, we are nothing if not resilient.

[Cue ME3]

TIMMY   : I SURRENDER!

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Mr.House wrote...

Pros:
Combat changes and gameplay
Liara, Kaidan and Ash back as squadmates
Wrex, Mordin and Legion are in the game

Cons: everything else.

Really?  I like what they're saying about the plot and how past decisions are going to work.

The only WTF in this is Cerberus, but those crazy bastards never meant sense in the first place.

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Seriously, the Cerberus-fanclub mad in this thread is just delicious.

How could you not see this coming?!

Oh, and I'm with AdmiralCheez, I seriously hope TIM's reasoning is trying to get in with the Reapers and take them out from the inside. How that will work I don't know, but by GOD it would be magnificent.

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candidate88766 wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

read the scans and see the part about Cerberus and the part  where they ask Casey about wrex being Mass Effect 3 .  If this mag had bad info why would they be asking Casey Hudson about wrex being in ME 3. If all the info is wrong . 


Casey pretty much confirms Wrex isn't a squad member. However, at no point does Casey mention anything about Cerberus' motives - if he had, they'd credit the statement with his name.

Until Bioware actually confirms it themselves just assume that it MAY be a misinterpretation - PC Gamer assuming that because Cerberus is an antagonist they must be working with the Reapers.

I'm not trying to argue with you, just trying to show you that you have no reason to be annoyed (yet). Think positive B)

Although you'd have to wonder what other motive they could possibly have. Reapers are coming to destroy us all, Shepard key to uniting galaxy and fighting reapers. Cerberus want to harm/kill Shepard.... Reapers win. 

Modifié par iamtruth, 05 mai 2011 - 09:57 .


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Lizardviking wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

Cerberus working with the reapers that is dumb and makes no sense . So basically the story in 2 about Cerberus wanting to stop the reapers and collectors was bull sh*t .


Perhaps TIM wanted to become buds with the Reapers, and this was why he wanted the base...so he could Ascend to Greatness!!!! 

He probably has similar motives to Saren.



Hey! Remember TIM's speech in one of ME2's endings?

JOKER: But Shepard is dead. What are we supposed to do?

TIMMY  : We move on. This was a victory. Humanity will perservere, we are nothing if not resilient.

[Cue ME3]

TIMMY   : I SURRENDER!



Also:

"If the Reapers are targetting us,trying to wipe us out then Cerberus will stop them".

Ol' Jack had a change of heart apparently.

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Seboist wrote...

Sadly the "point" of ME2 seems to have been just to build up Cerberus as an enemy in ME3.


So, people finally realize how pointless ME2's story was!  I've been saying all this time that I couldn't understand how people could give such good reviews to ME2 seeing how weak and pointless the story seemed.  Now people finally seem to be figuring it out.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Pros:
Combat changes and gameplay
Liara, Kaidan and Ash back as squadmates
Wrex, Mordin and Legion are in the game

Cons: everything else.

Really?  I like what they're saying about the plot and how past decisions are going to work.

The only WTF in this is Cerberus, but those crazy bastards never meant sense in the first place.

Walters, I'm warry about everything in the writting department, gameplay and level deisgn not since I trust Christina and Dusty.

I won't be surprised if they change Ash/Kai's character and destory Liara and pull a Bastila with her.

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Arcian wrote...

Seriously, the Cerberus-fanclub mad in this thread is just delicious.

How could you not see this coming?!

Oh, and I'm with AdmiralCheez, I seriously hope TIM's reasoning is trying to get in with the Reapers and take them out from the inside. How that will work I don't know, but by GOD it would be magnificent.


We were expecting some player choice not some railoaded JRPG nonsense.

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I mustn't be the only one who thinks the "face the consequences" section of the article is completely PC Gamer's assumptions, right?

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Mr.House wrote...

I won't be surprised if they change Ash/Kai's character and destory Liara and pull a Bastila with her.

That's really the only thing I'm worried about: consistency.  However, we haven't heard any information on either side for that yet.  Gonna have to wait and see.

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ReveurIngenu wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Sadly the "point" of ME2 seems to have been just to build up Cerberus as an enemy in ME3.


So, people finally realize how pointless ME2's story was!  I've been saying all this time that I couldn't understand how people could give such good reviews to ME2 seeing how weak and pointless the story seemed.  Now people finally seem to be figuring it out.




Apparently the whole Collector thing was just one glorified side mission and the hints of continued Cerberus cooperation was just there to throw us off.

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This has got to be fake. BioWare would not have wanted any of this to slip through, well except for confirming Tali as a squad mate. They said that Cerberus's reason for hunting Shepard is a secret that will be revealed in-game and not having any love interests is bull. I WAND TO ROMANCE A FEMALE TURIAN DAMNIT!
<_<

Modifié par Alexander Kogan, 05 mai 2011 - 10:03 .


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Seboist wrote...
Also:

"If the Reapers are targetting us,trying to wipe us out then Cerberus will stop them".

Ol' Jack had a change of heart apparently.


TIM recovered an ancient Reaper-artifact from the (destroyed) Collector base. An so called idiot-ball. It can influence organics to preform dumb out-of-character decisions!

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iamtruth wrote...

Although you'd have to wonder what other motive they could possibly have. Reapers are coming to destroy us all, Shepard key to uniting galaxy and fighting reapers. Cerberus want to harm/kill Shepard.... Reapers win. 


Maybe they discovered why the Reapers want Shepard (maybe he's integral to the human-Reaper design, I don't know) and Cerberus decided it is in everyone's best interests that the Reapers can never get their hans on Shepard. Maybe TIM doesn't like the fact that Shepard basically abandons Earth and is so pro-humanity that he views it as an unforgivable betrayal. Maybe TIM has discovered something that requires the Cipher but doesn't want Shepard to use so must capture Shepard to 'extract' it. Theres any number of reasons, people should be patient.

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-Skorpious- wrote...

I mustn't be the only one who thinks the "face the consequences" section of the article is completely PC Gamer's assumptions, right?

It was pretty much just as BS as PS3M's segment on returning squadmates.

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Seboist wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Seriously, the Cerberus-fanclub mad in this thread is just delicious.

How could you not see this coming?!

Oh, and I'm with AdmiralCheez, I seriously hope TIM's reasoning is trying to get in with the Reapers and take them out from the inside. How that will work I don't know, but by GOD it would be magnificent.


We were expecting some player choice not some railoaded JRPG nonsense.

You had a choice, you made it, it didn't work out. Just like the rachni for paragons.

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Arcian wrote...

Seriously, the Cerberus-fanclub mad in this thread is just delicious.

How could you not see this coming?!

Oh, and I'm with AdmiralCheez, I seriously hope TIM's reasoning is trying to get in with the Reapers and take them out from the inside. How that will work I don't know, but by GOD it would be magnificent.



to see it coming is one thing.  to have it dropped 6+ months before release is another. it kind of goes against everything cerberus and TIM (in their misguided ways) have done.
Big Question if true...why take out the collectors? competition? different reaper factions? WTF OVER

.......but how many Cerberus attempts to "study" reaper tech failed?

Modifié par corporal doody, 05 mai 2011 - 10:02 .


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-Skorpious- wrote...

I mustn't be the only one who thinks the "face the consequences" section of the article is completely PC Gamer's assumptions, right?

Probably. I think it has some reasoning behind it, but I wouldn't hold it as rock-solid truth.

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ExtremeOne wrote...

read the scans and see the part about Cerberus and the part  where they ask Casey about wrex being Mass Effect 3 .  If this mag had bad info why would they be asking Casey Hudson about wrex being in ME 3. If all the info is wrong . 


Casey pretty much confirms Wrex isn't a squad member. However, at no point does Casey mention anything about Cerberus' motives - if he had, they'd credit the statement with his name.

Until Bioware actually confirms it themselves just assume that it MAY be a misinterpretation - PC Gamer assuming that because Cerberus is an antagonist they must be working with the Reapers, which may be wrong.

I'm not trying to argue with you, just trying to show you that you have no reason to be annoyed (yet). Think positive B)


I really hope you're right, but previous experience is against us. People were saying the same sort of things about having to work with Cerberus before ME2 came out.

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so much for all the talk about Mass Effect 2 being like Empire Strikes Back at least in that movie George Lucas did not make a stupid side story like you did with Mass Effect 2