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[candidate88766]

Vengeful Nature wrote...

I really hope you're right, but previous experience is against us. People were saying the same sort of things about having to work with Cerberus before ME2 came out.

Bear in mind the early ME2 info was that Shepard was dead. It was true, but no in the way we expected so give this a chance - it may go totally against what we expect.

[Seboist]

Arcian wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Seriously, the Cerberus-fanclub mad in this thread is just delicious.

How could you not see this coming?!

Oh, and I'm with AdmiralCheez, I seriously hope TIM's reasoning is trying to get in with the Reapers and take them out from the inside. How that will work I don't know, but by GOD it would be magnificent.

We were expecting some player choice not some railoaded JRPG nonsense.

You had a choice, you made it, it didn't work out. Just like the rachni for paragons.

How exactly is the Rachni decision "backfiring" for Paragons? Just because there's Rachni husks? Everybody else is being made into husks.

[1136342t54_]

ExtremeOne wrote...
If that is true then maybe that will make sense but it still ask the question of what was the real point of Mass Effect 2 

To stop the Reapers from making a new Vanguard or using the Batarian Relay to attack Earth? 

Seriously I highly doubt the Illusive Man to be stupid enough to be indoctrinated the entirety of ME2. Its likely he researched Saren's methods to avoid indoctrination and modified it so he would be safe. Now when hundreds or thousands of Reapers enter the Galaxy his defenses wouldl likely be nullified. One person who is strong willed can resist a Reaper indefinitely if they have defenses against it. But if the entirety of Reaper species come to the Galaxy  I doubt the Illusive would be able to resist indoctrination. 

If that is true then maybe that will make sense but it still ask the question of what was the real point of Mass Effect 2 

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 05 mai 2011 - 10:05 .

[Vertigo_1]

You guys don't think TIM could turn into Saren 2.0? Preserve the human race by joining the Reapers? Didn't he have contact with a Reaper artifact in that comic Evolution (yeah I know...comic was bad).
Wouldn't that influence his decision?

I'm just curious.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 05 mai 2011 - 10:05 .

[candidate88766]

Seboist wrote...

How exactly is the Rachni decision "backfiring" for Paragons? Just because there's Rachni husks? Everybody else is being made into husks.

We were expecting an ally, but it seems we've simply made our enemy stronger by giving them one more species to huskify. Thats why it may've backfired against paragons.

[JackhammerGR]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

"The Reapers take on the Rachni, who were already viscious insect 
monsters,are covered with bulging savs of lesser creatures.  Rather than
hitting their weak spot for massive damage, you want to avoid it like
the plague: bursting any of these sacs before the creature is dead wit
will unleash a swarm of horrible mini-rachni that crawl all over your
body"

../../../images/forum/emoticons/pinched.pngOh crap, I'm screwed...

[jlb524]

Lizardviking wrote...

Hey! Remember TIM's speech in one of ME2's endings?

JOKER: But Shepard is dead. What are we supposed to do?

TIMMY  : We move on. This was a victory. Humanity will perservere, we are nothing if not resilient.

[Cue ME3]

TIMMY   : I SURRENDER!

It wouldn't be surrendering as much as realizing there's nothing that can be done, so take an opportunistic approach and try to bargain with them to at least save humanity. 

[ExtremeOne]

Arcian wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Seriously, the Cerberus-fanclub mad in this thread is just delicious.

How could you not see this coming?!

Oh, and I'm with AdmiralCheez, I seriously hope TIM's reasoning is trying to get in with the Reapers and take them out from the inside. How that will work I don't know, but by GOD it would be magnificent.

We were expecting some player choice not some railoaded JRPG nonsense.

You had a choice, you made it, it didn't work out. Just like the rachni for paragons.

   



There was no player choice at the end of 2. There was only one choice and that was the paragon choice . so much for player choice when one choice controls how the story in 3 goes . 

[Spartanburger]

candidate88766 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

How exactly is the Rachni decision "backfiring" for Paragons? Just because there's Rachni husks? Everybody else is being made into husks.

We were expecting an ally, but it seems we've simply made our enemy stronger by giving them one more species to huskify. Thats why it may've backfired against paragons.

The thing is, they may not all be enemies, nor may they all be allies.
I think we'll still get Rachni allies, just not a huge amount of them. And the downside is still the fact that we'll have to deal with a seeminly harder husk variety.
So we get a minor ally in exchange for slightly harder combat.
Pro and con.
Also: I hate spiders.

Modifié par Spartanburger, 05 mai 2011 - 10:09 .

[candidate88766]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

You guys don't think TIM could turn into Saren 2.0? Preserve the human race by joining the Reapers? Didn't he have contact with a Reaper artifact in that comic Evolution (yeah I know...comic was bad).
Wouldn't that influence his decision?

I'm just curious.

Nice idea, and it explains it nicely.

Something I just thought of - what if Shepard and his crew have slowly been indoctrinated (by the IFF presence, by EDIs presence as she was partly made form Reaper tech, by being near a dead Reaper) and TIM is trying to kill them because Shep and Co. are actually aiding the Reapers without realising it. That'd be an interesting twist.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Timmy has become Saren 2.0 and the trilogy has gone a full circle. Called it months ago.

[Dante Angelo]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

You guys don't think TIM could turn into Saren 2.0? Preserve the human race by joining the Reapers? Didn't he have contact with a Reaper artifact in that comic Evolution (yeah I know...comic was bad).
Wouldn't that influence his decision?

Thats what I was thinking

[Mr.House]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Timmy has become Saren 2.0 and the trilogy has gone a full circle. Called it months ago.

Well this is Walters, he can't write something decent if it flew around his face and bit his nose.

[candidate88766]

Spartanburger wrote...

candidate88766 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

How exactly is the Rachni decision "backfiring" for Paragons? Just because there's Rachni husks? Everybody else is being made into husks.

We were expecting an ally, but it seems we've simply made our enemy stronger by giving them one more species to huskify. Thats why it may've backfired against paragons.

The thing is, they may not all be enemies, nor may they all be allies.
I think we'll still get Rachni allies, just not a huge amount of them. And the downside is still the fact that we'll have to deal with a seeminly harder husk variety.
So we get a minor ally in exchange for slightly harder combat.
Pro and con.

Probably right, but it'd be interesting if there was no pro to it at all. I want Shepard to have to suffer to win this war, and the first way to do that is to disocver prevous choices were actually wrong in the long run.

[Spartanburger]

candidate88766 wrote...
Nice idea, and it explains it nicely.

Something I just thought of - what if Shepard and his crew have slowly been indoctrinated (by the IFF presence, by EDIs presence as she was partly made form Reaper tech, by being near a dead Reaper) and TIM is trying to kill them because Shep and Co. are actually aiding the Reapers without realising it. That'd be an interesting twist.

Shepard: "I end reapers!"
TIM: "No Shepard, you ARE reapers!"

[Geth_Prime]

Another article that gets me excited about ME3...plenty of new gameplay info, and some nice little story hints. Nothing too revealing though.

[ExtremeOne]

1136342t54 wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...
If that is true then maybe that will make sense but it still ask the question of what was the real point of Mass Effect 2 

To stop the Reapers from making a new Vanguard or using the Batarian Relay to attack Earth? 

Seriously I highly doubt the Illusive Man to be stupid enough to be indoctrinated the entirety of ME2. Its likely he researched Saren's methods to avoid indoctrination and modified it so he would be safe. Now when hundreds or thousands of Reapers enter the Galaxy his defenses wouldl likely be nullified. One person who is strong willed can resist a Reaper indefinitely if they have defenses against it. But if the entirety of Reaper species come to the Galaxy  I doubt the Illusive would be able to resist indoctrination. 

If that is true then maybe that will make sense but it still ask the question of what was the real point of Mass Effect 2 

   



What was the real point of Mass Effect 2  

[candidate88766]

Mr.House wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Timmy has become Saren 2.0 and the trilogy has gone a full circle. Called it months ago.

Well this is Walters, he can't write something decent if it flew around his face and bit his nose.

Of course, have a go at the writing team based on a plot point we don't know the detail, context or reasoning behind yet. BSN in a nutshell.

[Abramis brama]

-No new LIs in ME3

Yes!

Wrex not squadmate

NO!

hideously bloated pregnant Asari, her gums stripped away and a robot skeleton showing through her rotting flesh"

What the heck, man.

EA wrote...

Mass Effect 3 'tweaked' for a larger market

 
There goes my excitement.

[Dominus]

What was the real point of Mass Effect 2

To take your moneys. Mwahaha. If you want to ask about the point of mass effect 2, make a seperate thread, please.

[candidate88766]

Spartanburger wrote...

candidate88766 wrote...
Nice idea, and it explains it nicely.

Something I just thought of - what if Shepard and his crew have slowly been indoctrinated (by the IFF presence, by EDIs presence as she was partly made form Reaper tech, by being near a dead Reaper) and TIM is trying to kill them because Shep and Co. are actually aiding the Reapers without realising it. That'd be an interesting twist.

Shepard: "I end reapers!"
TIM: "No Shepard, you ARE reapers!"

It'd only be good if done right, but imagine finding out halfway through you've actually been dooming the galaxy and have to spend the second half fighting the Reapers while trying to undo yor mistakes. It'd be like the Dark Brotherhood in Oblvion.

[JaerWolfe]

Vertigo_1 wrote...
-Tali is confirmed squadmate
"Garrus, Liara, Kaidan, Ashley and Tali (newly confirmed) are all full time squadmates"

If they only played a demo, how do they know any of these squaddies are full time? Or am I misunderstanding what is meant by demo and they played most of the game?

[axl99]

So if there are no new LIs in ME3, does this mean you get to further develop a existing relationship with your current LI?

[Spartanburger]

Arcian wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...


What was the real point of Mass Effect 2  

I dunno, STOP THE COLLECTORS?

This.
How many times was that mentioned in ME2? Like, at every single mission?
The Reapers were still a threat, but they were still considered a somewhat distant threat. The current threat was the Collectors. 
It's only with Arrival that we see just how close the Reapers are.