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[AK404]

 OK, another Insanity playthrough, and already Husks are giving me a minor headache.  I give props to sino, thisisme, onigannon, and gatsby for showing me the value of excellent tactics, and I can easily breeze through most of the game because it's not hard pushing back against enemies that're always trying to stay at melee, but there's something about husks that makes me panic.

They're my bane on Horizon because they force me to break cover when they rush to melee, they seem immune to simple flanking (for the same reason), and their swarming tactics remind me of being on the receiving end of a zergling rush.  Instead of taking them out systematically like I do for everyone else, I often find myself panicking and backpedaling with my SMG on full auto or pulling out a heavy weapon when these idiots rush in.
Now, I usually use an avalanche as my heavy weapon of choice on these guys (though I suspect that an arc projector would be better), take Grunt and Samara/Jack, and take care to carefully sidestep their charge.  The problem, though, is that I feel that I'm resorting to overkill to deal with an enemy who needs none. (Seriously, they die if knocked off their feet!  How hard should this be?)

I feel that it really should be little more than a matter of stripping their armor and a throw, but anyone care to share some tips on dealing with Husk rushes on Insanity?

[lolwut666]

What's your class?

[termokanden]

I run, a lot. But it's not panic, and I don't pull out the heavy weapons. For the first part of the fight on Horizon, there are plenty of boxes to take the little guys for a run and avoid getting hit by shockwave. You can also pretty much run out in the open actually, because Scions, like Fry when playing Space Invaders, do not understand the value of shooting where the target is going to be.

When the Collectors arrive, this is really still valid. There are so many boxes you don't have to stand still anywhere. But you need to be aware of your surroundings of course.

There is one place in the game where you can't do this, and this is on the suicide mission. Worse, there are lots of abominations. But there you can hit them all with a heavy weapon easily. On my last playthrough, I just abused the sniper slowdown and focused on the aboms, taking out other husks in the process.

Of course all of this depends on your class as well. Squad Cryo is great, and so is Incineration Blast. I think these are the best weapons against husks.

Modifié par termokanden, 05 mai 2011 - 09:03 .

[AK404]

Infiltrator. Husks are a non-issue with my Soldier, and laughable as a Vanguard.

Yeah, I may have dropped the ball by not using Incineration Blast.

Modifié par AK404, 05 mai 2011 - 09:03 .

[lolwut666]

Incinerate is the way to go.

It will kill unarmored husks instantly, as well.

Have Mordin along for the mission and use his Incinerate to strip the husks' armor and your own Incinerate to insta-kill them.

[termokanden]

Well then I suggest Incineration Blast and/or Squad Cryo. I used IB on my last run.

Note that IB actually stops husks for a second, so you can even use it to get away if they get close.

Modifié par termokanden, 05 mai 2011 - 09:05 .

[IMNWME]

Does Dominate work on Husks? Gotta try it out.

I love mind-controlling melee enemies, they're the best distractions!

[xelander]

Aside form Incineration Blast and Squad Cryo Ammo, I'd recommend also using pistols (and later shotgun, if you pick it up) and not the SMG, at least until you get used to dealing with husks as an Infiltrator. Predator is better, since it's more forgiving because of its larger spare ammo capacity.

Aim at their legs (especially if using a shotgun), if you shoot one leg off, its an instakill (even better than the freeze kill which takes some time in which they can swing at you). Works also well with the sniper rifle, but for the end fight on Horizon I prefer to save the SR ammo for the scions and the Praetorian.

Also, backpedaling is nothing to be ashamed of, the Infiltrator's bread and butter is moving around the battlefield. For example, if I don't take a specifically anti-husk team on the DCS, I tend to backpedal at the final husk rush.

[AK404]

Yeah, my specific anti-husk team is Grunt & Jack. While Grunt is at home with these guys, I think I might have to give Jack some semi-automatic weapons like the Predator and Scimitar.

[Ahglock]

If you being jack and you have incinerate, its incinerate, area pull or shockwave spam. It massacres husks. If you put grunt out in the open they tend to swarm in a clump which lets incinerate and area pull hit pretty much an entire wave of them.

Oh and IMNWME dominate acts as a lift off their feet alack and insta kills husks. You can dominate a collector though and they will tend to swarm him, which sets them up for an incinerate/pull combo.

[termokanden]

I find SMGs the easiest weapon to use agains them as a Widow Infiltrator. Not a big difference in effectiveness compared to pistols, but there's more ammo and you can easily afford to miss a lot while running around.

With Cryo Ammo though I don't think SMGs are the best choice.

[Aimi]

xelander wrote...

Also, backpedaling is nothing to be ashamed of, the Infiltrator's bread and butter is moving around the battlefield. For example, if I don't take a specifically anti-husk team on the DCS, I tend to backpedal at the final husk rush.

Why not just run through?

[Sailears]

AK404 wrote...

Infiltrator. Husks are a non-issue with my Soldier, and laughable as a Vanguard.

Yeah, I may have dropped the ball by not using Incineration Blast.

Laughable too as an infiltrator!
There's a whole range of things - incinerate for the armour, cryo ammo (squad cryo is useful here), heavy weapons as usual (avalanche), or even work off a bonus power - ie neural shock.
Then from the sublime to the ridiculous - check my sig for an alternative way of dealing with husks.

Ahglock wrote...

If you being jack and you have
incinerate, its incinerate, area pull or shockwave spam. It massacres
husks. If you put grunt out in the open they tend to swarm in a clump
which lets incinerate and area pull hit pretty much an entire wave of
them. 

Yeah! Incinerate -> pull field/shockwave works really well, and useful to have one of Jack/Jacob/Samara along.

Modifié par Curunen, 05 mai 2011 - 10:28 .

[Malanek]

lolwut666 wrote...
Incinerate is the way to go.

It will kill unarmored husks instantly, as well.

I'm pretty sure the second part is inaccurate. Incinerate is good for the armour but does not kill unarmoured husks instantly or even particularly well.

For unarmoured husks you want things that take them off their feet. Singularity, Pull, Throw, Shockwave, Cyroblast, Cyro ammo, Charge, Flashbang grenade etc.

[Golden Owl]

IMNWME wrote...

Does Dominate work on Husks? Gotta try it out.

I love mind-controlling melee enemies, they're the best distractions!

No it doesn't, have tried myself...makes one that one husk blow up, thats all....then you have to wait for cool down to use any other power.

[Golden Owl]

I recently survived my first Insanity play through and found as an Infiltrator, using squad cryo on SMG and aim for husk legs worked best for me, shooting their legs out is the fastest way to bring them down when using ammo on them....I would thin the advancing husks first with my Widow (on IFF mission), aiming for their lower pelvis, upper legs, worked really well, then change out to SMG as they closed in.

Modifié par Golden Owl, 06 mai 2011 - 02:35 .

[Aimi]

Malanek999 wrote...

For unarmoured husks you want things that take them off their feet. Singularity, Pull, Throw, Shockwave, Cyroblast, Cyro ammo, Charge, Flashbang grenade etc.

Or, just shoot their legs.

[AK404]

Yeah, I did that a few times. Maybe it's just me, but it's funny how they kept on coming.

[jamesp81]

AK404 wrote...

Infiltrator. Husks are a non-issue with my Soldier, and laughable as a Vanguard.

Yeah, I may have dropped the ball by not using Incineration Blast.

Yes, spam incineration blast on them.  Also, does Infiltrator not have access to cryo ammo?  If a husk freezes, it insta dies.  Use incinerate to strip the armor away, and freeze them with cryo ammo equipped firearms.  Shotguns, the Predator, and the Carnifex work exceptionally well for activating cryo effects.  You only need one point in cryo ammo for husk control.

Also, if you've done Zaeed's loyalty mission, his inferno grenade meshes well with incineration blast spam (or, as I like to call it, Kill It With LOTS of fire)

[jamesp81]

AK404 wrote...

Yeah, my specific anti-husk team is Grunt & Jack. While Grunt is at home with these guys, I think I might have to give Jack some semi-automatic weapons like the Predator and Scimitar.

Incineratation blast and Jack's shockwave face stomp husks.  Once you strip their armor with incineration blast, let them have Jack's shockwave.  Husks will be flying everywhere.

[jamesp81]

I can see how husks on insanity would be tough for an infiltrator, though. You have some very good, viable tactics to use. With soldier or adept it's so easy. Adept just uses a gun of his choice and squadmate powers to strip armor, then lay down a biotic attack of his choice. For soldier, Revenant + Inferno ammo kicks the **** out of husks all by itself. Add in squadmate powers and your own concussive shot to knock them down, and it's cake.

[Rolling Flame]

On the subject of a suitable Heavy Weapon, I've found that the Collector Particle Beam burns through Husks with ease, especially when they bunch up. The only drawback is how rapidly it tears through ammo.

[Golden Owl]

AK404 wrote...

Yeah, I did that a few times. Maybe it's just me, but it's funny how they kept on coming.

I noticed on Insanity, you have to find the sweet spot on the husks legs...the sweet spot is right on where the pelvis meets the leg, I was able to blow their legs off with one shot from the Widow when I hit that spot.....Also something else I noticed that you might like to utilize if you have the Widow...On Horizon where you meet the two Scions , swarming husks and Pretorian....just as you first enter that area, stay on the upper steps and move slightly to your right, you can see a Scion through your scope between a wall and pole, 6 shots form the Widow will kill it...you are then one Scion down before you go down the steps and activate the husks.

[Influ]

One ridiculously effective tactic against husks is to put Grunt at point to draw their attention, use your own Incinerate (preferably Incineration Blast) to strip their armor and use Mordins Full Cryo Blast to shatter them. Mordins fully evolved Cryo Blast has only half the cooldown of the lower level power so it's pretty awesome overall. Of course Mordin has Incinerate too and it helps against Scions and the Praetorian, but your better of utilizing the low cooldown Cryo Blast against the husks, if you can effectively strip their defenses yourself. The IFF mission is a cakewalk with this squad.

Modifié par Influ, 06 mai 2011 - 12:25 .

[lolwut666]

Malanek999 wrote...

lolwut666 wrote...
Incinerate is the way to go.

It will kill unarmored husks instantly, as well.

I'm pretty sure the second part is inaccurate. Incinerate is good for the armour but does not kill unarmoured husks instantly or even particularly well.

For unarmoured husks you want things that take them off their feet. Singularity, Pull, Throw, Shockwave, Cyroblast, Cyro ammo, Charge, Flashbang grenade etc.

It kills them instantly in my game. Insanity, too.