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More of Shepard the Human, Less of Shepard the Hero


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Fiery Phoenix

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One reason I love Mass Effect so much is that it feels like your own universe. You have your own character that you've built from Act I and know full well you will carry through the next chapters. You can see it's going to be an epic journey that starts with a single step, and you can't wait to see how it plays out. As a result, it is anything but a stretch to conclude that this character is in for some really tough moments. And if that doesn't happen, you're not really experiencing the story as you'd like to think you are.

Yup, I'm talking about Shepard being human. I'm talking about Shepard acting like a person who has gone through hell and back, not a robot who has been programmed to achieve a particular task and autoterminated. We know ME3 will be the final chapter of the trilogy, and according to Casey Hudson, it's going to be full of huge moments and twists/revelations, but will that change Shepard in any way? Because if not, it's as good as non-existent.

Unfortunately, I did not think ME2 did well enough in this regard. Most of the time, Shepard was an unfeeling killing machine. Hardly anything changes their character throughout. It wasn't until LOTSB when we finally got a most excellent scene to express ourselves and reflect some change in Shepard's character. In ME1, we had the just-as-good locker scene--both of which did a remarkably good job in actually reflecting the emotional effect of past events on Shepard's character and personality.

So yes, I am of the opinion that ME3 MUST emphasize on this. This is the end of Shepard's story-arc. This is the final resolution to Shepard's own personal story. This is the chapter in which an entire galaxy is resting on Shepard's shoulders. I believe we should get a lot more such moments and scenes in ME3--even if it's just mere dialogue without actual interaction. Just something to have Shepard express themselves from a realistical and emotional point of view.

With Cerberus after Shepard, potential war with the batarians, a number of side-issues with other people, and more importantly the Reapers, Shepard should crack. This is a great chance to demonstrate the psychological effect of these events on Shepard. I thought Arrival blatantly wasted the opportunity with this; there were a couple of moments where it should really have been done, but it wasn't. Shepard was effectively an emotionless killing machine in Arrival, and that left a bit of a sour taste in my mouth, especially after what we got from LOTSB.

Bottom line: If this is Shepard's story, it should be portrayed as such. Having Shepard visibly struggle and react emotionally to previous and surrounding events is one way of doing this. And seeing as how we're going into Act III, we should be expecting someone who has been significantly influenced by the past, not the same person we started ME1 or ME2 with.

...amirite? :innocent:

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 06 mai 2011 - 07:41 .


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AdmiralCheez

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Yes.

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Ghost Warrior

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Of course,I agree

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Would be pretty cool to see Shepard have more of those moments. So...yes : )

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I've been saying this for a while. Just much less eloquently.

So, yes, I very much concur.

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I don't think ME2 did badly there, but I agree with you that plenty of such moments must be in ME3, we need to know at the end of it what kind of person shepard is, what kind of person his experiences, and we, the players, have made him, with each one being different, our own shepard. There are so many different possibilities, and I do hope they really show you want kind of person he is in ME3, particularly at the end, and that all of the different possibilities are shown, and done justice, and done properly, and done well, not just a few different ones that we can hardly affect and that's just something they're sticking in quick because they think it shoud be there.

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Tyrannosaurus Rex

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We definetly need a scene or two of this nature in ME3.

In before "Shepard is not emo!".

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AdmiralCheez

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Lizardviking wrote...

In before "Shepard is not emo!".

They'd be manly tears.

MANLY.

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+1 support

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Shepard doesn't get sad. He gets MAD! Well at least the way I play.

I'm not against the idea, but no forced "Shepard starts crying on somebody's shoulder" nonsense.

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ADLegend21

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I want shepard being saved or aided through a mission. She's not invincible.

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Xephyr829

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Great job Fiery.

You pretty much said everything right.

Shepard needs more emotion. :)

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Totally, FP - I want to see Shepard struggle as hard as possible both physically and emotionally by the end of ME3.

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Agreed and I don't even play it.

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Oh, gawd, yush.

Because dying and waking up two years later doesn't affect Shepard's mindset or outlook or anything related to mental stability at all.
Nuh-uh.

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I would like this, definately. Following the story of an emotionless chunk of flesh isn't very interesting.

[pessimism] I'll imagine though, that there is not much of it, because gamers want space marines, and space marines don't have feelings other than the urge to shoot things in the face and get it on with hot aliens. [/pessmism] Then again, they have done it in both games so far (only a little in the scenes linked) but it is better than nothing. On top of that, even Gears of War 2 had an emotional bit, and the world didn't implode.

So I will remain hopeful! ^_^

Modifié par Chaos-fusion, 05 mai 2011 - 10:50 .


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WizenSlinky0

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The galactic council of slinkies supports this measure unanimously.

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I agree. Shepard has to let his/her guard down at some point and I hope we have more scenes like those in ME3.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

In before "Shepard is not emo!".

They'd be manly tears.

MANLY.

So like Kenshiro.:wizard:

Modifié par Some Geth, 05 mai 2011 - 11:02 .


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Ghost Warrior

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Well it should be optional. If not,then very subtle (for people who play as pure Renegades without any emotion).

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Ghost Warrior wrote...

Well it should be optional. If not,then very subtle (for people who play as pure Renegades without any emotion).


I think that's what the OP meant, the option to show more actual emotion about what you're going through. Which would inevitably leave an option for reinforcing the fact you don't give a **** and they should keep their concerns to themselves...for the renegages out there.

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To a certain point, I agree.

Like OP's video showed, I want my Shepard to be able to explain to others how (s)he feels, I want them to give in and almost say how hopeless the situation feels to them. I want them to feel something so that I will actually feel something.

However, I do not want these emotions to overflow while "on the battlefield," so to speak. I do not want Shepard to just break down in front of the squad. The point of a good leader, in my opinion, is to be able to rally his/her troops against all odds and do so without flinching, without letting their troops know too much about their misgivings. Morale is a huge factor in performance, and if soldiers see their leader break down, they wouldn't be able to fight as well.

If they do do this, I want it to be a private or "intimate" affair. Perhaps to a LI or a certain squad member, who in turn will gain something from this, Shepard will tell them how (s)he really feels.

/opinion

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JamieCOTC

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Fiery Phoenix wrote...Bottom line: If this is Shepard's story, it should be portrayed as such.

QFT

Optional dialogue or actions to portray Shepard as a human being would be more than welcome. I know BW could pull it off like nobody's business. They just have to have the will to do it. I remain cautiously optimistic.

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The only way I'm going to feel like this story is really epic and engrossing, and not just loads of fun, is if I actually FEEL something for the characters. Personally I don't think subtlety is the issue so much as how well written the characterisation is (along with all the acting, score (thank god for Mansell), cinematics, etc..)

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That's right, I know what your already thinking, go ahead, say it... Shepard needs............

"Emo Interrupts"..