Elton John is dead wrote...
I cannot forgive the flaws this game suffers. NWN deserved a better sequel. Obesdian were having a laugh when they released this. This is my opinion however and I'll respect yours. As for me, I'll stick with NWN.
I agree the camera sucks in NWN2, and so do the animations. Hate the level 30 cap and how they redid epic levels to make those levels imbalance much worse. But then it also has a lot of good points, the quick cast menu, and there are a lot of ways to adjust the camera controls. But this requires giving the game a chance and not treating it like it's just an upgrade to NWN1, it's a completely different game entirely.
I personally am using NWN2 because you CANNOT do the things i am modding in NWN1. A completely redone UI is just not possible. I've redone things like counterspell so it actually works, which even in 1.69 is a major mess in NWN1, and i did it all because the UI is completely moddable. Level up and the rest in XML means i can change it, and do things just not possible in NWN1. And i can even add fonts for custom languages, and do a lot of things in scripting you cannot do in NWN1 even if you wanted to. ( i am basically doing a proto database system using just nwscript which can access variables in a very optimized manner ). While the DM client interface does suck, the fact it's all XML makes this just a matter of time until i can finish redoing it into something which is much better than either NWN1 or NWN2 is capable of.
Of course there is the Autodownloader, which came with 1.23 and which makes custom content a non issue in NWN2. It's got things like news, server rules you can read while it downloads, and if you use drop box it might even be done downloading prior to finishing your character creation.
Then there are the mods for NWN2. NWN1 has peachykeen upgrading the graphics, while we have skywing upgrading the entirety of the game code. This is not minor updates, it's a NWNX plugin that prevents almost all crashing, and a client extension that allowed him to completely replace the networking layer. Note that the networking layer has bugs which are present in NWN1 and NWN2 and this adds substantial improvements to speed and stability. Area loading times on my PW went from minutes to seconds as well when using his revamped resource loader. He's currently working on redoing the entirety of the scripting engine, and has a server in development which can handle hundreds of players unlike the current one which starts having issues when you get over 70-80. Technically the symbols for debugging that we have for NWN2 allow us to see how the game works in a much deeper level than NWN1, even though the NWN1 folks have been trying to find any bioware folks who will provide the better symbols.
And then there is the toolset, while by itself the NWN1 toolset is decent, the fact plugins are there for NWN2 allow me to do things far beyond just tilesets, i've recreated for example the gettysburg battlefield i recreated using real height map data, imported using YATT. It's not just what you get when you install it, the plugins allow the community to change almost all aspects of the toolset.
There are a lot of things which folks don't like about NWN2, but there are so many opportunities for the community to change what we don't like, either by UI changes, scripting, 2da adjustments or patching the actual game libraries with the extender and NWNx. This does not even cover what we can do in modules we create, with the cutscene movies and conversation scripts.
That is all my opinion, quite different than yours, but it's enough to make me say i'm not going to be playing NWN1 anymore since i like NWN2 a lot better.
I am not sure if you really want opinions, as posting in the manner you did does not completely make sense to begin with, as it's begging an argument far more than an opinion, hopefully you want to just hear if there is something you missed.
Obviously in this particular forum, the opinion is that NWN2 is pretty good -- you are just not going to change that. We probably know the flaws of NWN2 far better than someone who dipped their foot in for a few minutes and decided it's so bad they need to post about how it does not compare to NWN1, and we generally have work arounds for most of the issues, or just decided the problems don't matter to us.
Like so many things it's what you care about most, just like some folks like blue, and others prefer pink. I personally think you should get both NWN1 and NWN2, and then play on which ever PW or Module comes out which impresses you the most. The excellence of the members of each community is enough, that most players i know will move between NWN1 and NWN2 based on what was just released.
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