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[Bryy_Miller]

Personally, I couldn't get through KOTOR because every character would just pour their hearts out to me at the most inopportune moments.

[AllThatJazz]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Personally, I couldn't get through KOTOR because every character would just pour their hearts out to me at the most inopportune moments.

 I remember feeling nonplussed at that. Really, Bastila? You think now is a good time?

Modifié par AllThatJazz, 06 mai 2011 - 09:38 .

[HoonDing]

That was more of a problem in BG2, where Aerie would suddenly start sobbing about her wings when you were about to attack Firkraag.

[whykikyouwhy]

For DAII, there seems to be a lot of divisiveness over Isabela (and for the record, I'm pro-pirate all the way).

Going back to my fanatical TV-viewing, I remember a lot of back and forth regarding Xena and Gabrielle - people preferring the grim hero with a dark past on the road to redemption, or young ingenue who molds herself into a formidable warrior. Also, from the BtVS universe, Angel...the character and the show. Lots of devout fans or bitter enemies there.

[Deathwurm]

Some Geth wrote...

 Jason Todd from DC comics.

I'm in agreement with this one. I think part of it is the fact that he's been written well AND poorly depending on the writer & Title.
Sticking to DC, I'd have to add Damien Wayne to the List. A lot of readers don't get the darker twist on the "Light-Hearted" Robin persona they're going for.

[AllThatJazz]

virumor wrote...

That was more of a problem in BG2, where Aerie would suddenly start sobbing about her wings when you were about to attack Firkraag.

Heh, yes. I have a vivid recollection of a messenger coming to find Anomen to tell him about his sister's death while we were in the Underdark. Aside from the phenomenal skill of said messenger being able to navigate through the Underdark alone and unarmed when my entire party of seasoned heroes was getting regularly wiped out, we were also disguised as drow, so this guy had some hot recognition skills. Of course, Anomen then went ape and legged it back to the surface, leaving me without a healer for the rest of the Underdark trip. Hmph. <_<

Anomen could count as being pretty divisive, maybe. A very well written character and the best healer in the game on the one hand, but a pompous, confrontational and very judgemental personality on the other. 

Modifié par AllThatJazz, 06 mai 2011 - 11:23 .

[The Narrator]

Hitler, he has the worst fanbase ever, they are always fighting echother.

plus the canonical discussions get very heated.

[casedawgz]

I don't dislike Carth any more than I dislike Bastila. Just acknowledge that I saved you!

[Seagloom]

AllThatJazz wrote...

Anomen could count as being pretty divisive, maybe. A very well written character and the best healer in the game on the one hand, but a pompous, confrontational and very judgemental personality on the other.

Exceedingly so, I thought. I remember all the debates over his character that essentially amounted to "Anomen is kind of a dick" and "Anomen starts off as kind of a dick, but becomes is sweet once the romance gets going." I vaguely recall David Gaider eventually giving up after the discussion raged on a good while. At least everyone can agree he is the best cleric in the game. Right? Right? Probably not.

[Some Geth]

Deathwurm wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

 Jason Todd from DC comics.

I'm in agreement with this one. I think part of it is the fact that he's been written well AND poorly depending on the writer & Title.
Sticking to DC, I'd have to add Damien Wayne to the List. A lot of readers don't get the darker twist on the "Light-Hearted" Robin persona they're going for.

I sort of see Damien as a new Jason, people like him or hate him but for me it is all how he is written so far I am fine with him.

Modifié par Some Geth, 06 mai 2011 - 02:49 .

[Seagloom]

Which girl? You lost me.

[Lord Atlia]

Raiden from the Metal Gear Solid series.

[Nattfare]

Seagloom wrote...

Which girl? You lost me.

He probably confused Anomen with Imoen.

[KenKenpachi]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lord Atlia wrote...

Raiden from the Metal Gear Solid series.

Definitely.

I also think that Tingle, from the Legend of Zelda series, is a divisive character. Japan loves him, whereas he's loathed and despised in the West.

In agreement with the above. And to add...

Kirby. Some people hate him, others love him.

Though also from the Land of the Rising Sun. Birdo...WHAT IS IT?

EDIT typo.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 09 mai 2011 - 05:01 .

[Chuvvy]

DominusVita wrote...

Considering my experiences on this forum so far, I'm going to vote for Tali. Talimancers, Tali haters, there's clear issues between people over that character.

There's way more Talimancers than haters. But she does seem to be you either love her or hate her. I can't stand her.

[Rockworm503]

One that I recently found out that people actually like De Santa from Red Dead Redemption..... The guy who used you for a good portion of the game in Mexico. Only to have you killed then tried to weasel his way out and overthrow his own leader.... The guy is a sniveling little ****** and I find out he has a huge following. Why?

[phoenixofthunder]

I'd say Jericho from the "DRIVER" series.

To:

BTG_01 wrote...

I'm not very well connected to the Stargate fanbase, but it seems they're pretty divided over Claudia Black's character, Vala.

She was host to a Goa'uld who then was freed of its presence. Her personaility was like that of a "treasure grabber" which often put the team into dire situations. Making it hard not to want her to stay behind but her being "linked" to Daniel for many episodes made it impossible to leave her behind or risk his death (and he was often needed on the team) this was unbearable for some of the team including Daniel (at least until near the end of the series).

Modifié par phoenixofthunder, 09 mai 2011 - 11:09 .

[BTG_01]

phoenixofthunder wrote...

I'd say Jericho from the "DRIVER" series.

To:

BTG_01 wrote...

I'm not very well connected to the Stargate fanbase, but it seems they're pretty divided over Claudia Black's character, Vala.

She was host to a Goa'uld who then was freed of its presence. Her personaility was like that of a "treasure grabber" which often put the team into dire situations. Making it hard not to want her to stay behind but her being "linked" to Daniel for many episodes made it impossible to leave her behind or risk his death (and he was often needed on the team) this was unbearable for some of the team including Daniel (at least until near the end of the series).

I know all about her, I watched the show. I was just commenting that it seems fans either love her or hate her.

[phoenixofthunder]

BTG_01 wrote...

phoenixofthunder wrote...

I'd say Jericho from the "DRIVER" series.

To:

BTG_01 wrote...

I'm not very well connected to the Stargate fanbase, but it seems they're pretty divided over Claudia Black's character, Vala.

She was host to a Goa'uld who then was freed of its presence. Her personaility was like that of a "treasure grabber" which often put the team into dire situations. Making it hard not to want her to stay behind but her being "linked" to Daniel for many episodes made it impossible to leave her behind or risk his death (and he was often needed on the team) this was unbearable for some of the team including Daniel (at least until near the end of the series).

I know all about her, I watched the show. I was just commenting that it seems fans either love her or hate her.

My apologies,
I'm a serious "Gater" (my slang for a Stargate Fan)
Consider this: A Human Elcor.

Again I apologize.

Modifié par phoenixofthunder, 10 mai 2011 - 02:50 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

Slidell505 wrote...

DominusVita wrote...

Considering my experiences on this forum so far, I'm going to vote for Tali. Talimancers, Tali haters, there's clear issues between people over that character.

There's way more Talimancers than haters. But she does seem to be you either love her or hate her. I can't stand her.

I'm pretty sure it's more of a case where it's either "You totally love her" or "You don't really care, but her fanbase forces you to indirectly hate her" .

[Milana_Saros]

BTG_01 wrote...

I know all about her, I watched the show. I was just commenting that it seems fans either love her or hate her.

I'm in the latter group. SG-1 wasn't that good after season 7 or 8 I think (pretty much after Anderson left) and having Vala forced on the team only made it a million times worse. Not only is the character ridiculously childish and selfish it also makes no sense whatsoever that she and Daniel share an "attraction for each other".

Was Sha're anything like Vala? Was that destroyer-of-worlds-in-disguise-whatshername anything like Vala? Was that princess of the mining planet where Daniel was exposed to the use of sarcophagus over-and-over again anything like Vala?

No, none of them were. And suddenly he is attracted to a character who is everything but caring, selfless and sweet. To add more injury to insult, Ben Browder's talents weren't taken adventage of, at all. Claudia Black could've done a lot better too as anyone but Vala. There were some points in latter episodes that dealt with the Ori where Vala seemed at least close to a clear-headed somewhat normal person. But it didn't last. Sadly.

Would be nice to watch & post some examples but cba to skim through the 10000000000 Vala/Daniel ship music vids

Anomen from BG2 is a good example as well. Just played around in BG2 only a couple of weeks ago and as time has passed, the character doesn't feel as bad as it did years ago when I was more um...intolerant so to speak. Still, the first few lines of dialogue about his superior, pure and radiant Order are pretty blergh.