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Maybe.... Mass Effect isn't an RPG or a Shooter....


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starmine76

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Maybe its just a game. More than that, an experience.

One of my major watershed moments in ME2 was actually quite simple; I checked my messages, read an email from Cerberus pointing me to a mission, and then I pulled up the galaxy map and headed there. As I was flying around the galaxy, It suddenly hit me; I am living my fantasy.

All those times as a kid watching Star Wars or Star Trek and wishing that I could just do that for one day, wishing that I could be Kirk on the Enterprise or Han Solo on the Falcon, zipping around the galaxy and fighting the bad guys one exotic worlds. It all seemed like a faraway dream, but alas, I  was doing it.

This moment had nothing to do with how deep of an RPG the game was, nor did it in any way relate to how solid of a shooter the game was. My epiphany in that moment derived from the fact that, regardless of what genre it was in, Bioware designed Mass Effect to be as enjoyable as possible in the context of it's story.

Yes, Bioware is considered an RPG developer, so it is expected that the games at least have RPG elements, but if you look at the companies mission statement, it says "BioWare's vision is to Create, Deliver, and Evolve the Most Emotionally Engaging Games in the World"

No where in that sentance do they state a genre. Where as in previous generations, due to limitations in technology and presentation, RPG's were simply the most practical genre to create an engaging story for the player. But Mass Effect, I think, has allowed Bioware to do something they've wanted to do for a long time; Make a game where the gameplay is designed only to service the story in the most entertaining way possible. This means that when you pick up a gun and start shooting, It feels really damn fun. And when you are back at your ship and want to excersise some of the freedom you've earned as Captain of a spaceship, yes, you've got a lot of different options to choose from, from things like weapon uprgades to dialouge trees to choosing your next destination.

I think that this philosphy is reflected in Biowares reported improvements to ME3. Sure they say they've added richer RPG elements in the form of greater customization, but they also make it clear that it is not at all in the fashion of ME1, a game which, honestly, felt like it had one foot awkwardly out of the RPG genre, as if BW was still unsure how far they could take it. The customization in ME3, from the sound of it, is all about further immersing the player into the world of the game.

I think if we argue too much over whether the game should be more shooter or more RPG, we may miss the point entirely. With each game, Bioware has gotten closer to making Mass Effect the way they imagined it, and making the best experience possible, regardless of genre.

Modifié par starmine76, 06 mai 2011 - 06:02 .


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^That^

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Hear, hear! Way to start a positive thread, OP.

Doesn't matter what genre the game is in, the triology is one awesome, unforgettable experience.

Mass Effect is like that one really cool, yet slightly obscure, band that you like but you can't figure out what genre describes it best. At the end of the day, it's probably creating a new genre all its own.

Modifié par leonia42, 06 mai 2011 - 06:01 .


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Praetor Knight

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Indeed.

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Agrees with the OP.

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I mostly agree.

But this is a trilogy. And the first two games have enbedded a certain "experience" into many peoples hearts and minds. It's not a stretch to say that the experience as a whole can be eroded by a weak link in the chain.

Not to claim ME3 will be that weak link. Only that people are not entirely unjustified in their worries. And it'd be wrong to claim that intelligent discussion about features and information isn't beneficial to both the posters and the company, even though much of that discussion may not be in favor of the game(s).

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yes ME is a game, ME2 is a game too, but it's ME...not GOW, not DAO, not DA2, it's mass effect, and we came to love this...so yes it's a game but not any game...it's a game I love and enjoy,hell it's part of  my life since it's the only game that worries me,or that I have played so many times....
So I want it to be great,to be the cherry on top of my ME cake.
Which I believe it will...
Still you have to admit that some of the news are a little confusing...

Modifié par jakal66, 06 mai 2011 - 06:15 .


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DP sorry

Modifié par jakal66, 06 mai 2011 - 06:15 .


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I completely agree with you op. For the most part I just hope they don't do anything cheesey with ME3's story.

I mean, during the holidays of last year my girlfriend tried out ME2, and being one who never really plays rpg-like VGs, she liked it... that is until femshep's voice started to annoy her.

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 06 mai 2011 - 06:23 .


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jakal66 wrote...

Still you have to admit that some of the news are a little confusing...


Basically details are getting lost in the minutia of this game. ^_^


Right now, I'd say one of the best complilations of info, on ME3, is Phaedon's thread.

Here: Mass Effect 3 Confirmed Features Thread

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+1,

Enjoyed your post OP, thanks for contributing. I often very much despise how quick people are to think like sheep and feel that every game must follow the heavily beaten path that lies from their predecessors.

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starmine76 wrote...

Maybe its just a game. More than that, an experience.

One of my major watershed moments in ME2 was actually quite simple; I checked my messages, read an email from Cerberus pointing me to a mission, and then I pulled up the galaxy map and headed there. As I was flying around the galaxy, It suddenly hit me; I am living my fantasy.

All those times as a kid watching Star Wars or Star Trek and wishing that I could just do that for one day, wishing that I could be Kirk on the Enterprise or Han Solo on the Falcon, zipping around the galaxy and fighting the bad guys one exotic worlds. It all seemed like a faraway dream, but alas, I  was doing it.


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 Well yeah.

Part of the appeal is Mass Effect tries to create an immersive universe.

That said reading emails on my spaceship and buying gas, isn't a part of  of my space fantasy. Holographic video messages you bet. Landing on uncolonized planets where they might be a new alien species or yet undiscovered alien ruins, sure. A breif 5 minute encounter with the same Mercs not so much.

Well I tried to be positive.
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starmine76 wrote...

One of my major watershed moments in ME2 was actually quite simple; I checked my messages, read an email from Cerberus pointing me to a mission, and then I pulled up the galaxy map and headed there. As I was flying around the galaxy, It suddenly hit me; I am living my fantasy.

All those times as a kid watching Star Wars or Star Trek and wishing that I could just do that for one day, wishing that I could be Kirk on the Enterprise or Han Solo on the Falcon, zipping around the galaxy and fighting the bad guys one exotic worlds. It all seemed like a faraway dream, but alas, I  was doing it.


I always wanted a Star Wars game like that...

I never realized I was playing it!

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Forever alone.

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The box says its an "ACTION RPG"

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Bluko wrote...

 Well yeah.

Part of the appeal is Mass Effect tries to create an immersive universe.

That said reading emails on my spaceship and buying gas, isn't a part of  of my space fantasy. Holographic video messages you bet. Landing on uncolonized planets where they might be a new alien species or yet undiscovered alien ruins, sure. A breif 5 minute encounter with the same Mercs not so much.

Well I tried to be positive.
:unsure:



While I understand (and somewhat agree with) your point, I like that the emails were written in such a way that makes you feel like an important person comminicating with other important people and not just interacting with a computer program. That's what kind of made it exciting for me.

And, whether or not the fuel thing is tedious, the visual experience of using galaxy map will never, ever get old for me. Honestly one of  my favorite features of the games.

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"Maybe.... Mass Effect isn't an RPG or a Shooter...."

Sooo in which game category does it go then?

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Chewin3 wrote...
"Maybe.... Mass Effect isn't an RPG or a Shooter...."
Sooo in which game category does it go then?

No no no... you don't get it, the OP is trying to reach above and stop all the wars around genre, consoles, oil and weapons of mass destruction. Biutifull act indid.

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Chewin3 wrote...

"Maybe.... Mass Effect isn't an RPG or a Shooter...."

Sooo in which game category does it go then?


ummm... maybe you should try reading the thread and not just the title?

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SaibianSAIbiAN wrote...

The box says its an "ACTION RPG"

If it just said "ACTION GAME" all the arguments would disappear. Well, most anyway. There's really no way to dispute it's an action game. 

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Dude, you have nailed it right here. This is why I love this game so damn much.

starmine76 wrote...

And, whether or not the fuel thing is tedious, the visual experience of using galaxy map will never, ever get old for me. Honestly one of  my favorite features of the games.

I wish we could slap hands.

Modifié par JoeClose, 06 mai 2011 - 07:28 .


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it is whatever you want it to be. Am I the only one tired of all this game labelling?

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Maybee Mass Effect is a shooter and an RPG... maybee I just don't care?

HTTP 404 wrote...
it is whatever you want it to be. Am I the only one tired of all this game labelling?

Because it's hip to be tired of it? Because you belive it doesn't make sense to classify books, movies and games acording to what they present? Because you think that it would be easier for people who like certain genres to look for what they like if all those clasifications were gone? Because you belive that it doesn't make sense to call a game where you shoot a shooter, a game where you race a racing game, a game where you pretend to do sports a sports game?

Unless you mean I'm tired of it HERE, because yes, it is annoying that every thread and their grandma is about that.

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 06 mai 2011 - 07:32 .


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Yeah, ignore all the millions of star wars games just like that. Especially KotOR that I consider better than ME. Only slightly though.