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Rockpopple wrote...

luckyny7 wrote...

Is it better then ME1 or2...NO...Is it better then DA.....No....Is it better then Witcher.....NO.....Is it better then Neverwinter Nights 1,2,3.........No. But I am playin it for the 3rd time and still find the story interesting and continue to find or confront things I have not in the other game. Not the greatest, but enjoyable. Just an opinion.


Well that's just because you're an idiot. Oh and not a true RPG fan. In fact, you may just be responsible for the destruction of the RPG genre in general. Bastard. Die slowly.

On a more serious note, I agree, I like it too. :lol:


*giggles at Rock*  Really glad you liked it sweetie. Really, really glad. And no this is not a troll statement, it is very serious.  So no, you are not stupid or the destructor of life as wel know it. *HUGS*

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luckyny7 wrote...

Is it better then ME1 or2...NO...Is it better then DA.....No....Is it better then Witcher.....NO.....Is it better then Neverwinter Nights 1,2,3.........No. But I am playin it for the 3rd time and still find the story interesting and continue to find or confront things I have not in the other game. Not the greatest, but enjoyable. Just an opinion.


I happen to like DA2, myself. But that could be because I am addicted to the whole DA world and anything related to it.

My family tried an intervention but it didn't work.

I still like DA2.

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I like it, but these forums are filled with so much vitriolic criticism of the game I don't feel a need to express my feelings for it.

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Good for you for liking the game.

I'll just be over in the the corner here, heckling.

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Zanallen wrote...
However, the drop in game quality has nothing to do with the game's label. 


Yes it does.  I have different expectations when I go see The Godfather II than I do when I go see Best of the Best II.  That name before the II tells me what I can expect. 


Zanallen wrote...
It has to do with a killer development cycle coupled by a rather ambitious attempt at altering core mechanics.  


The thread is about the fact that DA:2 is not as good as DA:O but is still an enjoyable game.  We're not discussing anything about WHY it is not as good. There are tons of other threads for that. This is irrelivent to the topic and I don't know why you included it.

Zanallen wrote...
You said yourself that you would "let it slide" if the game was called something else. That's stupid.


No it's not. I have different expectations when I go see The Godfather II than I do when I go see Best of the Best II. That name before the II tells me what I can expect.

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The game should be evaluated on its own merit and not in comparison to Origins because it, much like the games in the Final Fantasy franchise, is not a direct sequel.


I don't understand why you feel it should be evaluated solely on its own merits if it's a sequal.  Almost any review of Final Fantasy games you can find will compare it to previous Final Fantasy games in terms of quality (ie, is Final Fantast VII better or worse than VI, etc.).  Any movie review of a sequel will reference the movie's quality in comparison to its predecessor.  You draw in the previous audience when you make a sequal.  The trade off is that your product will be compared to the original that those people loved.  It's done all the time in movies, but because this is a video game people have this notion of "meh, they phoned this one in but thats ok because it's just a video game for stupid gamers". 

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i am a inbetween on DA2 I like parts of it and dislike other parts of it.

overall i like the game but I do feel it could be better in most parts apart from visuals and gameplay which are spot on. (except junk items what is the point when you cannot use them just sell them for scrap)

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I heard there was enjoyment going on in this thread. This must stop now.
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Hatchetman77 wrote...

1. Yes it does.  I have different expectations when I go see The Godfather II than I do when I go see Best of the Best II.  That name before the II tells me what I can expect. 

2. The thread is about the fact that DA:2 is not as good as DA:O but is still an enjoyable game.  We're not discussing anything about WHY it is not as good. There are tons of other threads for that. This is irrelivent to the topic and I don't know why you included it.

3. No it's not. I have different expectations when I go see The Godfather II than I do when I go see Best of the Best II. That name before the II tells me what I can expect.

4. I don't understand why you feel it should be evaluated solely on its own merits if it's a sequal.  Almost any review of Final Fantasy games you can find will compare it to previous Final Fantasy games in terms of quality (ie, is Final Fantast VII better or worse than VI, etc.).  Any movie review of a sequel will reference the movie's quality in comparison to its predecessor.  You draw in the previous audience when you make a sequal.  The trade off is that your product will be compared to the original that those people loved.  It's done all the time in movies, but because this is a video game people have this notion of "meh, they phoned this one in but thats ok because it's just a video game for stupid gamers". 


1. No, the name tells you what you can reasonably expect the film to be about. If the movie is Rocky 3, I can reasonably conclude that it features Stallone as an underdog boxer. It doesn't magically mean it will be good.

2. Then obviously your reading comprehension needs work. I included that statement to show that naming the game DA II didn't make the game bad because people are comparing it to Origins. You know, the thesis statement that you responded to first.

3. Thank you for repeating yourself. However, repetition doesn't make your opinion any more valid.

4. I feel that all media should be examined on its own merits. That is what leads to objective, constructive criticism. This is especially true with a medium like video games; where virtually every aspect can be altered from installment to installment, but still remain a "sequel". And I guess that is what it comes down to. Despite the II, I don't consider DA II a sequel. I won't consider the third game a sequel either, even if they call it DA3. To me, they are the second and third games within the Dragon Age franchise. A sequential number doesn't make something a sequel.

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I enjoy DA2! And I think it's way better than the Neverwinter Nights original campaign. And plenty of other games I've played, for that matter.

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I agree. DA2 is a good game. Is it great? No. Is it better than other Bioware games? No. Probably the weakest Bioware game I can remember but still a good game.

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I kind of enjoyed Act II, Act I and Act III not very much. Too bad they couldn't make it more coherent, or perhaps concentrate on the qunari soley.

So, yeah, basically I only enjoyed Act II >.<

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I haven't even completed a 2nd play through, there isn't enough variation in possible outcomes to encourage me enough to play through the next wave of mindless ninja interlopers. :(

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

I heard there was enjoyment going on in this thread. This must stop now.
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NO! We will not stop the enjoyment!  *puts on  tin bucket helmet and grabs sword of wood (broom handle with tinfoil)* You go through me! :D

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erynnar wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

I heard there was enjoyment going on in this thread. This must stop now.
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NO! We will not stop the enjoyment!  *puts on  tin bucket helmet and grabs sword of wood (broom handle with tinfoil)* You go through me! :D


I prefer my suit of armor and swords made out of beer cans like this. HEY GANDALF! NICE DRESS!



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erynnar

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neppakyo wrote...

erynnar wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

I heard there was enjoyment going on in this thread. This must stop now.
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NO! We will not stop the enjoyment!  *puts on  tin bucket helmet and grabs sword of wood (broom handle with tinfoil)* You go through me! :D


I prefer my suit of armor and swords made out of beer cans like this. HEY GANDALF! NICE DRESS!




SNORT!!! ANd I just remembered...Jack is a pirate, he has a real rapier (whit), I best behave.

So to keep on topic, may I ask the OP what was your favorite part?  What just really gave you the best feeling about the game? :) Or anyone's( and spare us the unistalling it...that was funny to some of us, and never to some, long ago...just don't go there. Please, keep this as a real enjoyment thread).

Modifié par erynnar, 07 mai 2011 - 02:45 .


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So far, DA2 is ok. I'm enjoying it enough to keep playing, anyway.

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luckyny7 wrote...

Is it better then ME1 or2...NO...Is it better then DA.....No....Is it better then Witcher.....NO.....Is it better then Neverwinter Nights 1,2,3.........No. But I am playin it for the 3rd time and still find the story interesting and continue to find or confront things I have not in the other game. Not the greatest, but enjoyable. Just an opinion.


Egads! I heard about your species, but I never thought I'd see one in my lifetime.

Modifié par monkeycamoran, 07 mai 2011 - 02:59 .


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erynnar wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

I heard there was enjoyment going on in this thread. This must stop now.
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NO! We will not stop ARE  the enjoyment!  *puts on  tin bucket helmet and grabs sword of wood (broom handle with tinfoil)* You go through me! :D


Fix'd. B)

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Zanallen wrote...

Please explain Final Fantasy then.


What exactly is it you wish to know about them? Image IPB

Final Fantasy series games are not based in the same world in general until X really they tended to stay seporate worlds. It's not the same as DA which all cover the same world. FF was designed primarily as a series of different worlds and stories. X & X2 changed that because people cried out for more of X. The best you can do going down this route is talk about X/X2 and yes people did complain and moan about how X2 changed too much in the end becoming a girls barbie clothed dance off title in comparrison to X. Image IPB

<<< Did not like X2 btw.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 07 mai 2011 - 03:36 .


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neppakyo

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DL, I hated X2 >.< I Still love FF 3,5,6, and 7.

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fightright2 wrote...

erynnar wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

I heard there was enjoyment going on in this thread. This must stop now.
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NO! We will not stop ARE  the enjoyment!  *puts on  tin bucket helmet and grabs sword of wood (broom handle with tinfoil)* You go through me! :D


Fix'd. B)


ROFL!:lol:

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I enjoyed DA2 more than Origins. Does that mean I think it is the better game, not necessarily. I'm simply stating a preference. Moving on...

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WazzuMan wrote...

I enjoyed DA2 more than Origins. Does that mean I think it is the better game, not necessarily. I'm simply stating a preference. Moving on...


And no says you can't think it's better, or they shouldn't rather. So, what just grabbed you about DA2? What was most enjoyable about it? Inquiring minds want to know! And don't go away! This is the thread for people who love DA2!

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WazzuMan wrote...

I enjoyed DA2 more than Origins. Does that mean I think it is the better game, not necessarily. I'm simply stating a preference. Moving on...


Good point.  I'm not saying I'm enjoying 2 more than Origins, but I'm having some fun playing it.
Does that make it "better"?  Not necessarily, not by a long shot.
It just means its providing entertainment (which counts for quite a bit with me, FWIW).
Some of my favorite movies and games have gotten abysmal-to-not great ratings from various sources...it is what it is.  Explains why I've played "Phantasmagoria 2" 6 times (as a game, it's a train wreck...but I love it for some reason!)

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luckyny7 wrote...

Is it better then Witcher.....NO.


I haven't finished The Witcher yet, but I reckon I could make a pretty convincing argument against that statement.