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[1Minsc1]

Antivenger wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

Them being evil in 3 is stupid and especially the lame ass indocunation crap. 

You're delusional. TIM's goals may be noble, but that doesn't make his actions any less evil. Hitler wanted to ascend his people and his country. Noble goals. The wars and the shoah?

Godwin's Law is yet again proven true.

Offtopic, sorry.
This is absolutely b*******. As far as i know we must not discuss politics here, but i'm german and when someone mentioned something like this.... i can't hold.

[Wulfram]

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

SR1 was top secret, one-of-a-kind, unique experimental vessel that literally flew under everyone's radar. Plus it was DESTROYED. There was no more Normandy, nor any plans to build a new one.

The Alliance has built at least one Normandy class ship since ME1 - the SSV Ain Jalut, which took part in a raid on a Batarian weapon facility.

I doubt very much they could forbid anyone to build another simiar vessel, even if it was based on original scematics. Face it, SR2 is Cerberus' ship, so the Alliance didn't ''get it back under control''. They simply seized a weapon from a terrorist group.

It's not necessarily Cerberus' ship anymore.  My Shepard stole it fair and square.

Modifié par Wulfram, 07 mai 2011 - 02:24 .

[Someone With Mass]

There was another Normandy-class ship under Alliance control. It raided a batarian colony.

ExtremeOne wrote...
You can buy into Bioware's bull sh*t if you want . Its clear people on here do not understand logic or are too busy protecting Bioware . They never show us anything on how Shepard earns the rank of Commander so that reason is garbage . You Bioware ass kissers will say anything to defend them . Your Shepard may be a alliance Soldier . but My Shepard in 3 will do what ever it takes to disobey them at all cost . yeah forced slavery into a group that wants Shepard's head because the bastards had no balls to blow up the relay them selfs. you want My Shepard to stop and destroy the reapers fine want anything else the alliance can basically go f**k itself

Ah, the hypocrisy in that comment is so amusing. You're accusing BioWare of coming up with BS when the good part of your comment about the Alliance having no balls is BS as well as trying to somehow make your Shepard's story canon, which is equally laughable.

Where was Cerberus during the attack on the Citadel? Didn't they have any balls either? Probably not, but some feeble minds can't conjure up anything better.

Oh, and by the way, Cerberus has lived through its usefulness. They don't have any fleet they can contribute with in ME3, so I honestly don't give a **** about what those inbred monkeys are doing.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 07 mai 2011 - 02:26 .

[Someone With Mass]

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...
SR1 was top secret, one-of-a-kind, unique experimental vessel that literally flew under everyone's radar. Plus it was DESTROYED. There was no more Normandy, nor any plans to build a new one.

Tell that to the SSV Ain Jalut.

[1Minsc1]

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

Godwin's Law states that anyone who brings Hitler into a discussion automatically loses. So I guess that makes you a loser, not ExtremeOne.

That's not quite right:
"Gowin's law states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving ****s or Hitler approaches 1."
but:
"For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the ****s has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress."
Wikipedia

Modifié par 1Minsc1, 07 mai 2011 - 03:28 .

[skiaDUDE]

    



You can buy into Bioware's bull sh*t if you want . Its clear people on here do not understand logic or are too busy protecting Bioware . They never show us anything on how Shepard earns the rank of Commander so that reason is garbage .  You Bioware ass kissers will say anything to defend them .   Your Shepard may be a alliance Soldier . but My Shepard in 3 will do what ever it takes to disobey  them at all cost . yeah forced slavery into a group that wants Shepard's head because the bastards had no balls to blow up the relay them selfs. you want My Shepard to stop and destroy the reapers fine want anything else the alliance can basically go f**k itself 

lol u mad bro? no but seriously whats your greif with the alliance. They give you their 120 billion credit ship or whatever, send you out into the galaxy, you save the galaxy, come back, get blown up. Get rebuilt by cerberus, FORCED to work with them (so in all reality your greif about the possibilty of having to work with the dreaded alliance in ME3 is something that already happened to the rest of us in ME2).  Anyway you return to the citadel in ME2, and its the COUNCIL that rebukes you. Anderson is pretty supportive if I remember he just has his hands tied.

More so, in Arrival, Hackett goes to Shepard first for help, regardless of his Cerberus ties, and once it is done even admits that Cerberus is doing the right thing by taking real action.

So i think that faced with a credible threat in ME3, the alliance will completely get its act together and provide a string supporting and amazing role.

[AngelicMachinery]

Why can we become freelancers, no Cerberus or Alliance.

[crimzontearz]

because we need authority, incredible funding and also we need to be backed up by a government or else no one would take us seriously

[Bad King]

BluSoldier wrote...

 I was browing through the bioware store when I noticed  this:www.biowarestore.com/mass-effect/mass-effect-accessories/ssv-normandy-ship-replica.  So aperantly, the SR2 (and presumably sheppard) will be working for the alliance again in ME3.  Hurray!!!!:lol::lol:
This makes me very happy, becuase I never liked cerberus, and tried to quit (and damage) the organization at every possible oportunity in ME2.  Go Alliance!!!!!

You are far too trusting of the Alliance after what they've done. 

[CROAT_56]

Sorry if mentioned before but the GI article states we take the Normandy back *******SPOILERS****** the Reaper invasion so for all we know we don't work for the Alliance we stole their new ship. Just my 2 cents

[008Zulu]

Cerberus stole the design from the Alliance. While Cerberus may have helped push the initial project through, it doesn't give them the right to steal a propriety design.

[Raiil]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Why can we become freelancers, no Cerberus or Alliance.

I'm hoping we'll eventually get the chance. I don't mind working for the Council indirectly (basically as a Spectre, since I think at this point no one's going to argue with my credentials about getting s--t down) but as the pretty proud Commander of an awesome, alien-filled crew, I don't want to be shoehorned into humanity's postergirl. I'll kill any threat to the galaxy- that includes pro-human factions if it comes to it.

[PrinceLionheart]

ExtremeOne wrote...

They just up and take it with out any reason at all . 

I'm going to ignore the rest of your post since frankly it's the same spiel you spit in every other thread and It's getting boring. The Alliance confiscates the ship because, guess what, it's an alliance vessel. While Cerberus built it, they used the Alliance's blue prints, hence the Alliance has every right to confiscate the ship. Even if you don't agree with that, the simple fact that Shepard is going on trial means that the Alliance will confiscate Shepard's ship anyway.

[008Zulu]

PrinceLionheart wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

They just up and take it with out any reason at all . 

I'm going to ignore the rest of your post since frankly it's the same spiel you spit in every other thread and It's getting boring. The Alliance confiscates the ship because, guess what, it's an alliance vessel. While Cerberus built it, they used the Alliance's blue prints, hence the Alliance has every right to confiscate the ship. Even if you don't agree with that, the simple fact that Shepard is going on trial means that the Alliance will confiscate Shepard's ship anyway.

I think he just ignores anything that doesn't fit within the narrow preconceived vision of "his" game. All his arguments have been thoroughly refuted and he still spouts his dismay at the so called illogical actions of the Alliance.

Looking forward to seeing what kind of improvements the Alliance engineers can make. Maybe they can find somewhere to put an extra Thanix cannon, or two.

Modifié par 008Zulu, 08 mai 2011 - 04:47 .

[282xvl]

Shepard just returns in the SR2 because she knows bad things are about to go down. Then they give her the Jack Bauer hero treatment, seize her ship and crew and slap her with charges because its politically expedient and they want her shut the hell up (or anything she says taken by the public for defensive drivel.)

IMO the Alliance doesn't actually take SR2 by force. Unless Joker really falls down on the job and drives un-stealthed on an intercept-possible vector at intercept-possible-low velocity past an obvious mountain-of-alloy Alliance DN I just don't see how it could be done. (Even in this balls-up scenario they ship could probably still evade incoming fire long enough to go FTL OR have EDI hack the DN's fire control OR just turn and fight with its maneuverability (can't align a DN gun on it easily) and its gawdawful Thanix firepower.)

I think Shep probably just tries to return with SR2 to the Alliance fold and gets politically sold out... until they obviously need her to save Humanity's collective ass, and hand her back the keys.

[Someone With Mass]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Why can we become freelancers, no Cerberus or Alliance.

No funds to our cause.

[282xvl]

Someone With Mass wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Why can we become freelancers, no Cerberus or Alliance.

No funds to our cause.

Indeed. Running warships is exceptionally expensive.

Besides at the end of the day we will need to associate with a national government capable of fielding ground armies in the millions (billions?) and fleets of all-up capital ships (read DN and CV) if we're going to take on something like the Reapers.

[Cypher0020]

woooow that's nice... seen pics before but I'm digging the blue/white color scheme

Now just put Joker, Chakwas, Ken, Gabby, EDI, Gardner, Kelly and my SR1-2 buddies and I'm all set to go


we are gonna need a bigger ship....

[marshalleck]

Someone With Mass wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Why can we become freelancers, no Cerberus or Alliance.

No funds to our cause.

I hear the Shadow Broker runs a pretty lucrative business, what with selling government and corporate secrets to the highest bidders. I also have it on good authority that Shepard is quite well connected.

[008Zulu]

marshalleck wrote...
I hear the Shadow Broker runs a pretty lucrative business, what with selling government and corporate secrets to the highest bidders. I also have it on good authority that Shepard is quite well connected.

She can start a war in 10 minutes, or with the right wheeling and dealing, unite the Terminus under Shepard's command.

[M-Sinistrari]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Actually, I thought of something worse.

What if Joker was an Alliance spy all along?

Actually that does make a lot of sense.

His story of being grounded never quite seemed to fit with me since I can't see the Alliance doing that with a top notch pilot.  However having a cover story of being grounded and being disgruntled about it would make him seem like a good canidate for Cerberus recruiting.  As a double agent, who'd think that the guy with a disability's a spy?  And since we don't know how long the rumours going around about Shep and Cerberus have been muttered about, along with we don't know what intell the Alliance might've had on the side.

Hell, both Joker and Chakwas would make excellent double agents to check the validity of Shep's ressurection since they're not as 'cover mag' material like Kaidan or Ashley were, and they both knew Shep pretty well to be able to know if Shep's a clone or the real deal.

[Last Vizard]

008Zulu wrote...

PrinceLionheart wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

They just up and take it with out any reason at all . 

I'm going to ignore the rest of your post since frankly it's the same spiel you spit in every other thread and It's getting boring. The Alliance confiscates the ship because, guess what, it's an alliance vessel. While Cerberus built it, they used the Alliance's blue prints, hence the Alliance has every right to confiscate the ship. Even if you don't agree with that, the simple fact that Shepard is going on trial means that the Alliance will confiscate Shepard's ship anyway.

I think he just ignores anything that doesn't fit within the narrow preconceived vision of "his" game. All his arguments have been thoroughly refuted and he still spouts his dismay at the so called illogical actions of the Alliance.

Looking forward to seeing what kind of improvements the Alliance engineers can make. Maybe they can find somewhere to put an extra Thanix cannon, or two.

Why go back for a trial? i'd just build contacts using SB and return when the Reapers start attacking.... after punching all Alliance/Council officials within reach while yelling at them that all deaths during Reaper invasion are on them, then i'd calmly ask whats the status of all citadel fleets.

Edit: how long do they have... little over a month, i'm an Idustrial Electrician and i've worked on Dragline builds and your mad if you think the Alliance is going to do anything too crazy with the ship in that time.
Dragline

Modifié par Last Vizard, 08 mai 2011 - 02:52 .

[yummysoap]

It irks me somewhat that we're flying under their flag again when LotSB seemed set up so that we deliberately didn't have to answer to anyone in ME3. If I could have it my way I would take their assistance in fighting the Reaper threat, but to just bend over for them and let them dismantle and reassemble my ship just seems so stupid when they were about as much help in ME2 as the dead fish in Shepard's aquarium.

[PrinceLionheart]

Last Vizard wrote...

Why go back for a trial?

I dunno, some nonesense about working with a "terrorist" group, nuking an entire system, killing 300,000+ people, possibly igniting a war between two species.

Naw, they should totally allow Shepard to run around as he pleases at this point.