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[SkittlesKat96]

I'm also a little annoyed that they've made Revan and the Exile out to be insignificant...I mean I didn't like when people kept saying 'Revan is the greatest character in all of Star Wars, and he could beat Yoda, Luke, Sidious, Mace Windu and Anakin/Vader with ease' but the direction they have taken them now is more irritating.

I play on Ajunta Pall as a trooper

[bleetman]

Oh man, don't get me started about what they've done to the Exile. I could go on all day.

For the record? "Hey, remember all that stuff that happened last game? Yeah, I'm going to need you to go ahead and pretend it absolutely never happened at all, and is in fact not remotely possible" is generally just going to anger me.

Modifié par bleetman, 22 décembre 2011 - 09:31 .

[zsom]

Okay, looking for some input please. I can't decide whether I should pick this game up.
I've never played any MMO, but I did play most Bioware RPGs, and while I'm not a big fan of SW I did enjoy KotOR.

So how mmo-ish is ToR? I tested the beta for a few days, but had mixed feelings. There were a lot of fetch quests, and it was annoying that you get the first companion only after hours and hours of gameplay. I had no issue with the graphics, or the VO, but I did get my ass kicked by some of the missions meant for more than one player.

Is ToR enjoyable for someone who likes Bioware titles, but isn't cut out to play online for ever and ever?

I read tons of review, but the positive ones are oozing SW fanboyism, while the negative ones are pure nitpicking, or are oozing even more fanboyism....

[Obadiah]

>> Is ToR enjoyable for someone who likes Bioware titles...
I'd say your experience in beta is probably as good a judgment as any on if you'd like the game.

Modifié par Obadiah, 22 décembre 2011 - 04:27 .

[Elhanan]

zsom wrote...

Okay, looking for some input please. I can't decide whether I should pick this game up.
I've never played any MMO, but I did play most Bioware RPGs, and while I'm not a big fan of SW I did enjoy KotOR.

So how mmo-ish is ToR? I tested the beta for a few days, but had mixed feelings. There were a lot of fetch quests, and it was annoying that you get the first companion only after hours and hours of gameplay. I had no issue with the graphics, or the VO, but I did get my ass kicked by some of the missions meant for more than one player.

Is ToR enjoyable for someone who likes Bioware titles, but isn't cut out to play online for ever and ever?

I read tons of review, but the positive ones are oozing SW fanboyism, while the negative ones are pure nitpicking, or are oozing even more fanboyism....

One should get their first Companion by 10th; ship by 20th based on my small experience.

The storylines are quite enjoyable; esp like the Trooper and Sith Inquisitor paths.

There are tons of folks, but have not had too much interterference as there is no Blocking; one passes thru non-grouped PC's. I have beta tested twice, and know that it can be challenging, but solo play is viable.

[wolfsite]

I will say it is more enjoyable than other MMO's though my reasons for liking it are different than others.

- Missions so far feel more urgent than other games
- Missions can have more than one outcome which can affect future missions to a certain extant
- Some areas are less forgiving requiring actual teamwork.
- So far most "Kill X number of nad guy" missions are merely bonus objectives and not Main mission tree wich is nice.
- Combat is very different than other MMO's I have played, seeing more ranged enemies and more diverse attack styles.  Also noticed some enemies actually going for cover on occasion.

Again that is from just a day or two of playing but I am having fun.

[Tup3x]

I love this game! Simply awesome since I really, really liked KOTOR and this is basically KOTOR with other people. I usually hate MMO's but I really like SWTOR.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 22 décembre 2011 - 05:28 .

[Blastback]

I hate what they've done with Revan and the Exile. But otherwise so far the game is great.

[Zubie]

My only gripe with this game so far are the warzones. Open bracket? Really? Also Huttball is terrible.

[Elhanan]

easygame88 wrote...

My only gripe with this game so far are the warzones. Open bracket? Really? Also Huttball is terrible.

Not a fan of Huttball myself, but it is completely optional, and some actually enjoy it. Myself; rather fly combat missions....

[Zubie]

Elhanan wrote...

easygame88 wrote...

My only gripe with this game so far are the warzones. Open bracket? Really? Also Huttball is terrible.

Not a fan of Huttball myself, but it is completely optional, and some actually enjoy it. Myself; rather fly combat missions....

Oh I know, I'm just giving my opinion of it. I thought the pvp combat itself was pretty good.

[shepskisaac]

lol this TOR flashmob is great, the costumes/makeup are amazing! www.youtube.com/watch

And the Jedi guys are hot

[Clover Rider]

IsaacShep wrote...

lol this TOR flashmob is great, the costumes/makeup are amazing! www.youtube.com/watch

And the Jedi guys are hot

The Sith ones rule.

[shepskisaac]

Some Geth wrote...
The Sith ones rule.

Yes, he looks EXACTLY like Malgus! His makeup is perfect!

[Clover Rider]

IsaacShep wrote...

Some Geth wrote...
The Sith ones rule.

Yes, he looks EXACTLY like Malgus! His makeup is perfect!

Yeah, cosplay at it's best.

[ylaenna]

Yeeeaaaah!

LOL @ the top 2 comments:

This is nice of them. Something for us to watch while we're in the queue. -TheNothingHorde

Just to be different, I would've dressed like a Smuggler and crouched behind a fire hydrant. -Aaron4444444

[shepskisaac]

First reviews are fantastic: 88 on MetaCritic so far

www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic

And very high grade from PC Gamer wow!

If this keeps, it could be the most acclaimed MMO after WOW in the entire history of the genre

Modifié par IsaacShep, 23 décembre 2011 - 04:19 .

[zsom]

Thanks for the feedback Obadiah, Elhanan.

[bleetman]

IsaacShep wrote...

lol this TOR flashmob is great, the costumes/makeup are amazing! www.youtube.com/watch

That is all kinds of crazy awesome. I don't even know where to start.

easygame88 wrote...

My only gripe with this game so far are the warzones. Open bracket? Really? Also Huttball is terrible.

Myeah, that seemed very strange to me, too. Whilst players recieve buffs that effectively boost their stats to level 50 levels, it's not at all balanced in practice. Talent trees and learning new abilities simply throw it out of wack far too much. Smacking level 40ish sith into reactor cores with knockback attacks was probably made more satisfying by being 20+ levels below them, mind you

I don't mind Huttball. By which I mean 'I silently groan whenever it happens, because I'd much rather play The Voidstar, but at least it's not Alderaan'. The Steve Blum narrations could use a tone down, at least.

Modifié par bleetman, 23 décembre 2011 - 08:22 .

[Fireblader70]

Despite what they've done to Meetra and Revan, I'm pretty sure that whatever happened to them during the past two games actually did happen. Revan still saved the Republic and Meetra still defeated the Sith Triumvirate.

It may not be mentioned that much, but Drew said it was unnecessary as people would have had their own experience of those games and could fill in the blanks.

The only part I don't like is what happened to Meetra at the end. Being a wound in the force and a powerful Jedi all for... that. Tut tut, Drew.

[bleetman]

Someone who near single handedly defeated a Sith Triumvirate composed of some of the most powerful dark lords ever known - one of which could consume entire planets, and another whose shattered, long dead body was held together by nothing but his willpower and hatred and was effectively immortal - alongside re-establishing the Jedi order after its near total destruction really deserves better than to be a convenient means by which Revan can be dragged back into the spotlight. And then killed, in an entirely stupid way.

*Grumbles*

Modifié par bleetman, 23 décembre 2011 - 10:36 .

[Lady Amell]

bleetman wrote...

Someone who near single handedly defeated a Sith Triumvirate composed of some of the most powerful dark lords ever known - one of which could consume entire planets, and another whose shattered, long dead body was held together by nothing but his willpower and hatred and was effectively immortal - alongside re-establishing the Jedi order after its near total destruction really deserves better than to be a convenient means by which Revan can be dragged back into the spotlight. And then killed, in an entirely stupid way.

*Grumbles*

Yeah, that.

And I hated how much the book was centered on Scourge<_<

[solstickan]

zsom wrote...

Okay, looking for some input please. I can't decide whether I should pick this game up.
I've never played any MMO, but I did play most Bioware RPGs, and while I'm not a big fan of SW I did enjoy KotOR.

This is pretty much me (well, was regarding the MMO part ).

So how mmo-ish is ToR? I tested the beta for a few days, but had mixed feelings. There were a lot of fetch quests, and it was annoying that you get the first companion only after hours and hours of gameplay. I had no issue with the graphics, or the VO, but I did get my ass kicked by some of the missions meant for more than one player.

First off, the game is huge.  I have been playing for probably over 50hrs and I'm still on chapter 1. So yeah,  it is pretty slow moving and the companions join you far apart.

You could very well play it solo through the entire game, however, if you want to do the Heroics and Flashpoint quests you will need to get some help. Personally, even though I am pretty much anti-social IRL, I find those quests to be the most fun. But if you dont like that, you can always skip them, seeing as they are after all completely optional (and there will be plenty more stuff for you to do anyway). 

Is ToR enjoyable for someone who likes Bioware titles, but isn't cut out to play online for ever and ever?

Yes.

Of course, *opinions opinions yadda yadda*. You might not like it, but I fricking love it! (I tried the beta twice, and only the second time did it really sell it to me. (Sith Inquisitor, F*** YEAH!) And I don't know how far you got in the beta, but personally, I think that it's when you get your specialization at around level 10 that it gets fun as hell.)

Modifié par solstickan, 23 décembre 2011 - 03:37 .

[bleetman]

It's probably worth mentioning that thus far, only the first flash points (Esseles for Republic, Black Talon for the Empire) actually play like a Bioware rpg with other people. They have heaps of dialogue, moral choices that direct how the rest of the instance plays out, pre-boss fight sassing periods where you can inform the fellow you're about to fight how you're going to woop his butt so hard he'll be sleeping standing up for a month, so on and so forth.

All the ones after that are WoW-alike mob grinds, and unless you've a particular desire for mid level loot or just love the combat that much, can be safely skipped without really missing anything remotely substantial.

[Melra]

bleetman wrote...

It's probably worth mentioning that thus far, only the first flash points (Esseles for Republic, Black Talon for the Empire) actually play like a Bioware rpg with other people. They have heaps of dialogue, moral choices that direct how the rest of the instance plays out, pre-boss fight sassing periods where you can inform the fellow you're about to fight how you're going to woop his butt so hard he'll be sleeping standing up for a month, so on and so forth.

All the ones after that are WoW-alike mob grinds, and unless you've a particular desire for mid level loot or just love the combat that much, can be safely skipped without really missing anything remotely substantial.

Well I've only done Black Talon, some instance where I could choose to use some armory's missile's to annihilate Republic Fleet orbiting the planet or as light side choice leave them be ( what kind of Imperial would choose the LS option here? Dumbest choice ever), Mandalorian Raiders, Boarding Party and Foundry. They were quite long imo, too long for me to completely enjoy, but the dialogues were some what refreshing when comparing to normal WoW instances. They just lack replay value imo.