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#51
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Barquiel wrote...

Garrus' forced friendship is a bit OOC for my Shepard, but I liked the rest. I hope there will be more friendship content in ME3 (optional of course).


I found the forced friendship with Liara to be annoying.

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#1 Best reunion ever!!!
#2 Loved it
#3 Loved it
#4 Did not like
#5 Did not like
#6 Loved it
#7 Did not like
#8 ?
#9 Loved it
#10 -

#53
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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Okay, who here loved the following moments:

1. Brohug with Wrex on Tuchanka?

2. Swapping ME1 jokes with Liara during LotSB?

3. Post-LotSB conversation with Liara, regardless of romance?

4. Giving Tali sh*t and making her blush post-LM, regardless of romance?

5. Post-recruitment and post-LM conversations with Garrus, regardless of romance?

6. Drinking with Chakwas?

7. Reuniting and goofing around with Joker?

8. Garrus teasing Tali about elevators?

9. Jacob offering to spill some drinks on the Citadel?

10. Mordin's *ahem* advice as a doctor?


Loved every last one of 'em! Well, almost, I admit making Tali blush kinda made me face-palm a bit. I think Wrex's might be my favourite though. Just his "Shepard! My friend!" was so heartwarming. Mordin's advice is pretty up-there as well. But then Mordin is 6000 worlds of awesome.

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leonia42 wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Garrus' forced friendship is a bit OOC for my Shepard, but I liked the rest. I hope there will be more friendship content in ME3 (optional of course).


I found the forced friendship with Liara to be annoying.


Forced friendships are generally annoying if you don't like the character or roleplay that your Shepard don't like the character.

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Lizardviking wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Garrus' forced friendship is a bit OOC for my Shepard, but I liked the rest. I hope there will be more friendship content in ME3 (optional of course).


I found the forced friendship with Liara to be annoying.


Forced friendships are generally annoying if you don't like the character or roleplay that your Shepard don't like the character.


Indeed, it interfers with RPing. That said, I don't see how Garrus is a forced friendship. You can always refuse to do his loyalty mission or talk to him after the recruitment. With Liara, if you do LotSB, regardless of your romance or morality, Shepard will say something along the lines of "Come back soon" and look woefully depressed when Liara leaves the Normandy. Granted, you can skip this altogether and not invite her up but a lot of the interaction between Liara and Shepard during the DLC implies they are great mates. But I'm sort of going off-topic, as was the person who I was responding to.

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leonia42 wrote...
Indeed, it interfers with RPing. That said, I don't see how Garrus is a forced friendship. You can always refuse to do his loyalty mission or talk to him after the recruitment. With Liara, if you do LotSB, regardless of your romance or morality, Shepard will say something along the lines of "Come back soon" and look woefully depressed when Liara leaves the Normandy. Granted, you can skip this altogether and not invite her up but a lot of the interaction between Liara and Shepard during the DLC implies they are great mates. But I'm sort of going off-topic, as was the person who I was responding to.


So? Garrus is just as much a forced friendship. Shepard will always act all buddy-buddy with (mostly visible in the debriefing). And when you take him on your team he is all "Just like old times!" no matter what. True. You can ignore his loyalty mission and conversations with him. But the same can easily be applied to Liara.

All Shepard's were retconned into being friends with their ME1 team.

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Cool story bro.

Hah, but seriously yes love the bro moments we've had so far and there needs to be more in ME3. *bro fist* bromance deserves the same amount of attention as romance!

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I support friendshipmance!! Where getting to know a character doesn't always mean you're interested in him/her in a 'that' kind of way.
I actually like Jacob (Heck, there's no character that I dislike in ME anyway) Want to be friends with him. But then there's that tone that I always dread when conversing with that guy.. :"I'm just interested in *talking* a bit.." *_______* -sigh- (Shep's fault, I know)

I also support choices. ME has 6 dialogue wheels, why not make the most of them? Either you can be a total a**, neutral, buddy-buddy, flirty or even indifferent / strictly professional (the 'shut-up and lets get down to business' option. I understand that there are Sheps that aren't chatty)
In the end, player can choose that 'Character A' is my BFF while 'Character B,C & D' is just Hells No they're not going to be in my friendly list, coz I hate 'em!
Or perhaps just treat all squad members as a mere acquaintance.
IMHO friendship, like romance, evolves over time: You don't just fall in trust with somebody you hardly know.

But this is just my ramblings >.<

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I'd ask for the opposite, too.

I liked being able to play a xenophobic/racist Shepard, in ME1.  In ME2, you have no choice but to be friends with aliens.  It's not a waste of resources, as racism is a major topic in the ME setting, and the ME games take place not longer after the Battle of Shanxi.  Racism is still ripe in the minds of several species, not just humans.

Before anyone gets pissy with me, yes, it is possible to work with people you dislike.  Ever been paired with someone you don't like, for a school project?  Similar circumstances.  You don't like them, but you work with them, because there's something on the line (your grades).  That doesn't mean you have to like them.  Any friendliness you show them is insincere.

Shepard, however, is forced to be (sincere) buddies with Garrus, Liara, and other aliens.  Not talking with them is not the solution, since, in cutscenes, you're forced to call Garrus your buddy, embrace Wrex, and help Liara with her mission.

Please return the ability to be un-friendly.

Modifié par yorkj86, 08 mai 2011 - 07:40 .


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Hmm, maybe Admiral can make a wish list on how Bro-mance could be handled? Just a suggestion XD
Oh how I'd love to chat with Miranda over omnitools & shoes...

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yorkj86 wrote...

I'd ask for the opposite, too.

I liked being able to play a xenophobic/racist Shepard, in ME1.  In ME2, you have no choice but to be friends with aliens.  It's not a waste of resources, as racism is a major topic in the ME setting, and the ME games take place not longer after the Battle of Shanxi.  Racism is still ripe in the minds of several species, not just humans.

Before anyone gets pissy with me, yes, it is possible to work with people you dislike.  Ever been paired with someone you don't like, for a school project?  Similar circumstances.  You don't like them, but you work with them, because there's something on the line (your grades).  That doesn't mean you have to like them.  Any friendliness you show them is insincere.

Shepard, however, is forced to be (sincere) buddies with Garrus, Liara, and other aliens.  Not talking with them is not the solution, since, in cutscenes, you're forced to call Garrus your buddy, embrace Wrex, and help Liara with her mission.

Please return the ability to be un-friendly.


Maybe they wanted Renegade Shepard to be less "petty" in ME2 or something? And instead be more along the line of just being ruthless and pro-cerberus.

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close2myheart wrote...

Hmm, maybe Admiral can make a wish list on how Bro-mance could be handled? Just a suggestion XD
Oh how I'd love to chat with Miranda over omnitools & shoes...

Well, this is a discussion thread.  You can make your own list if you want.  It's not like the OP is the only one allowed to put forward ideas or whatever.

Also, two additional broments:

1. When Shepard becomes Grunt's battlemaster.

2. Final conversation with Samara if you are paragon and don't try to coax her into bed.

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Regardless of how "petty" Shepard's racism is, racism is still a viable topic within the setting, and it's something that the player should be able to explore. It's okay for non-humans to be racist to humans and Shepard, and it's okay for non-Shepard humans to be racist to non-humans, but it's not okay for Shepard to be racist to non-humans? Why?

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yorkj86 wrote...

Regardless of how "petty" Shepard's racism is, racism is still a viable topic within the setting, and it's something that the player should be able to explore. It's okay for non-humans to be racist to humans and Shepard, and it's okay for non-Shepard humans to be racist to non-humans, but it's not okay for Shepard to be racist to non-humans? Why?


I meant more in the lines Bioware removing it since it went against the whole "Hero and a bloody icon" they want Shepard to be. If that makes any sense.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 08 mai 2011 - 07:51 .


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Obviously, I despise the Liara ones. And while Garrus is and forever will be my favorite Mass Effect character, my favorite 'bro' moment was definitely Wrex's "my friend." That was genuinely moving.

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Lizardviking wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Regardless of how "petty" Shepard's racism is, racism is still a viable topic within the setting, and it's something that the player should be able to explore. It's okay for non-humans to be racist to humans and Shepard, and it's okay for non-Shepard humans to be racist to non-humans, but it's not okay for Shepard to be racist to non-humans? Why?


I meant more in the lines Bioware removing it since it went against the whole "Hero and a bloody icon" they want Shepard to be. If that makes any sense.


So, basically, you're saying that they wanted Shepard to a "hero and a bloody icon" of the most shallow, sterile, inoffensive varieties: "****" and "nice guy." 

Where'd the depth and nuance go?  Or does Bioware really want their definition of "hero and bloody icon" to be as naive as some Paragon decisions?

A "hero and a bloody icon" can be an ****.  A "hero and a bloody icon" can be a "hero and a bloody icon" to humans only.

EDIT: I'm derailing the thread.  I should create another thread about this topic.

Modifié par yorkj86, 08 mai 2011 - 08:14 .


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I agree with the ones pertaining to Garrus and Wrex. Not really the others. There should be banter though. Why no banter HBA? (Head Banter Authority)

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This makes me think the crew should get completely plastered, I mean totally high school drunk, after the Reapers are defeated in ME3. I figure they'll want to blow off some steam.

Garrus with a lampshade on his head? Aw yeah.

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Mass Effect 2 is one giant brogasm.

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I think part of the problem is that a renegade Shepard shouldn't necessarily be racist. My adept is a renagon Shepard, heavy on the renegade, and she doesn't care what species you are, because she thinks just about anyone is an a--hole. Working it into the game would be a bit of a problem.

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I love Every single one of those moments.

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Drinking with Chakwas and bro hug with Wrex was awesome. I also liked the lotsb dialogue with Liara but I didn't do that dlc with the Shep that had romanced her, so I didn't get the full flavour so to speak. Also catching up with Garrus and Tali was super.