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[themonty72]

Alright we know your Grey Warden up and left after awakening, but i played a play thru when i married Allistar and became queen. In Dragon Age 2 this was not discussed when I met King Allistar.  It played out as though my warden was still queen he even says well I have to get back to my old ball and chain. I figured my warden must have left when Allistar visited Kirkwall.  

[Amagoi]

That's possible. The way I figure it, The Warden disappears at a different time depending on the import. Then again, it's complicated a bit more by Witch Hunt and the lack of plot flags for the DLC.

My Warden-Commander sacrificed Loghain, and went traveling with Leliana. I assume that doesn't last very long since she's a ninja for the Devine now. I guess my Warden strutted out of Denerim after seeing King Alistair, and disappeared.

[primero holodon]

My warden was a dalish elf, who disliked  the wardens, and hated human politics and the chantry. at the end of origins he made it fairly clear that he had no intention of staying with the wardens or the fereldan court, if it weren't for the fact that he apparenty never made it back to his clan, I'd have said his disapearence was perfectly in line with his character

[Faroth]

@primero holodon
It worked great for mine as well. My daelish warden went through the mirror with Morrigan. Definitely disappeared, eh?

@themonty72
You want to add another spin to your version? What's to say Ferelden has a king at the end of DA2? If you were queen and disappeared, remember Alistair is a Gray Warden as well. What's to say he hasn't disappeared too?

[Agamo45]

My Grey Warden sacrificed himself to slay the Archdemon, everyone knows what happened to him. So the DA2 ending makes no sense.

Modifié par Agamo45, 09 mai 2011 - 03:09 .

[TJPags]

Agamo45 wrote...

My Grey Warden sacrificed himself to slay the Archdemon, everyone knows what happened to him. So the DA2 ending makes no sense.

Yea, they meant the Orlesian Warden who took over in DAA.

Yup - he's THAT important, apparently.

[Shacary]

it's really really weird when you consider on the time line of the thing, ANders shoudl still be in Amarathine with the Warden. No way she killed the archedemon and the architect and the Broodmother in like six months? things kinda confusing ... plus it totally doesnt match the epilogues from DAA.... somethings fishy!

[Pandaman102]

themonty72 wrote...

Alright we know your Grey Warden up and left after awakening, but i played a play thru when i married Allistar and became queen. In Dragon Age 2 this was not discussed when I met King Allistar.  It played out as though my warden was still queen he even says well I have to get back to my old ball and chain. I figured my warden must have left when Allistar visited Kirkwall.  

Awakening doesn't state specifically when the Warden disappears (though Witch Hunt does define a solid year of departure), so it's feasible your Warden disappeared during the "three year" jump between the ending epilogue and Act 3. However if you played Witch Hunt it's possible that in the five or so years your Warden was missing Alistair could've been forced into a new marriage, since the kingdom still needs a queen and an heir.

But if that were the case Alistair should be a lot less chipper. The cheating lout.

[Cypher0020]

I don't have any DLC cept Shale....

but my warden was a city elf who romanced Alistair, put Anora on the throne etc..... so at the end game I saw Alistair...and he knows my warden left? Uhhh.... I had it in my head they were rebuilding the Order together?

Guess they had a relationship fail?

[Andraste_Reborn]

However if you played Witch Hunt it's possible that in the five or so years your Warden was missing Alistair could've been forced into a new marriage, since the kingdom still needs a queen and an heir.

If he mentions the queen, he specifies that she killed the Archdemon, so it's definitely still the Warden.

[Patriciachr34]

The wardens are definitely up to something. They are conducting secret, very important missions, and have mysterious new allies. I am very curious now.

[Maria Caliban]

Agamo45 wrote...

My Grey Warden sacrificed himself to slay the Archdemon, everyone knows what happened to him. So the DA2 ending makes no sense.

Yes, it does. They weren't referring to the DA:O Warden.

[Chugster]

isnt Varric telling this story a year or two after the Orsino/Meredith showdown?

Plenty of time for the warden to disappear from Alistair's side

[CalJones]

Yes. From Lothering to the final showdown is seven years. Varric tells the story around three years later, if Bioware's claim of a 10 year period is accurate.

So, true, it is a bit odd that Anders would be around just after the Blight was over as I'd have thought the events in Amaranthine would have taken a few months at least, and then he'd have to travel, get established and set up his clinic.

Still, timelines never made much sense in Thedas. Look at the whole Jowan business in Origins. Somehow he managed to escape the Circle, go on the run, get caught and taken to Denerim, recruited by Loghain and set up in Redcliffe as Connor's tutor (and Eamon's poisoner) all in the same period as it took the mage warden to reach Lothering.

A wizard did it.

[Mykel54]

I don´t like this disappearance at all, it reminds me too much of the whole "unknown regions" of star wars. It only makes sense for the warden that go with Morrigan throught the mirror. Honestly i would prefer that, if bioware wants to get rid of the warden so badly, have the warden get killed while doing some important research on darkspawn or something. I think the warden story deserves either to be continued to a decent ending, or be finished out of camera, but not left up in the air with "oh the warden just disappeared". I almost feel like having my warden killed in origins is the best outcome, giving the bad continuation of the warden history so far.

[Jon Jern_]

I think the disappearance is because the Warden has had his calling.

[Pandaman102]

CalJones wrote...

Still, timelines never made much sense in Thedas. Look at the whole Jowan business in Origins. Somehow he managed to escape the Circle, go on the run, get caught and taken to Denerim, recruited by Loghain and set up in Redcliffe as Connor's tutor (and Eamon's poisoner) all in the same period as it took the mage warden to reach Lothering.

It would only make sense if the Warden decided not to approach Redcliffe before building an army, so as to give Jowan time to screw up his life some more. It would have been a nice touch if Eamon was healthy if you go to Redcliffe first and then succumb to poisoning when you return from securing an alliance or two.

[Chugster]

Pandaman102 wrote...

CalJones wrote...

Still, timelines never made much sense in Thedas. Look at the whole Jowan business in Origins. Somehow he managed to escape the Circle, go on the run, get caught and taken to Denerim, recruited by Loghain and set up in Redcliffe as Connor's tutor (and Eamon's poisoner) all in the same period as it took the mage warden to reach Lothering.

It would only make sense if the Warden decided not to approach Redcliffe before building an army, so as to give Jowan time to screw up his life some more. It would have been a nice touch if Eamon was healthy if you go to Redcliffe first and then succumb to poisoning when you return from securing an alliance or two.

plus, if you do a non-mage origin then Jowan's story is slightly different.

Also, surely everyone realizes that the Warden/Champion disappearance is the setup  for,  or is part of DA3's story

[HSHAW]

Jon Jern wrote...

I think the disappearance is because the Warden has had his calling.

Doesn't it take on average 30 years for the taint to get strong enough that a Warden needs to go on their calling?

[Pandaman102]

Chugster wrote...

Also, surely everyone realizes that the Warden/Champion disappearance is the setup  for,  or is part of DA3's story

I rather doubt that, actually. If you look at the structure of DA:O it was a self-contained story with everything (except the Warden's disappearance, which really isn't more than a couple lines in the epilogue) being wrapped up at the end of the game. It's not until DA2 and when Leliana mentions Hawke's disappearance not being a coincidence that we begin to have a hint of some hidden plot, but if both the Warden and Champion play prominent roles in DA3 that pretty much blows the mystery out of the water - unless they both disappear again without so much as an explanation, then that becomes hackneyed.

At the very least I believe will have a third hero who will also disappear before we get to see where the plot is headed, so I don't expect to see either of them until the beginning of DA4 at the earlist.

[Beerfish]

Pandaman102 wrote...

Chugster wrote...

Also, surely everyone realizes that the Warden/Champion disappearance is the setup  for,  or is part of DA3's story

I rather doubt that, actually. If you look at the structure of DA:O it was a self-contained story with everything (except the Warden's disappearance, which really isn't more than a couple lines in the epilogue) being wrapped up at the end of the game. It's not until DA2 and when Leliana mentions Hawke's disappearance not being a coincidence that we begin to have a hint of some hidden plot, but if both the Warden and Champion play prominent roles in DA3 that pretty much blows the mystery out of the water - unless they both disappear again without so much as an explanation, then that becomes hackneyed.

At the very least I believe will have a third hero who will also disappear before we get to see where the plot is headed, so I don't expect to see either of them until the beginning of DA4 at the earlist.

Multiplayer.  :innocent:

[Pandaman102]

Beerfish wrote...

Pandaman102 wrote...

Chugster wrote...

Also, surely everyone realizes that the Warden/Champion disappearance is the setup  for,  or is part of DA3's story

I rather doubt that, actually. If you look at the structure of DA:O it was a self-contained story with everything (except the Warden's disappearance, which really isn't more than a couple lines in the epilogue) being wrapped up at the end of the game. It's not until DA2 and when Leliana mentions Hawke's disappearance not being a coincidence that we begin to have a hint of some hidden plot, but if both the Warden and Champion play prominent roles in DA3 that pretty much blows the mystery out of the water - unless they both disappear again without so much as an explanation, then that becomes hackneyed.

At the very least I believe will have a third hero who will also disappear before we get to see where the plot is headed, so I don't expect to see either of them until the beginning of DA4 at the earlist.

Multiplayer.  :innocent:

M... mooltipass? Leeloo mooltipass?

But seriously: huh? How does multiplayer solve a premature story reveal?

[lobi]

The taint ravaged my city elf and he was practically insane and left for the deep roads after speaking to Anora.
My Fem Cousland was consort and helped Fergus so he would have time to heal and maybe remarry.
My male Cousland is 6.5 of undying love focused totally on finding Morrigan.
My Bloodmage warden made the ultimate sacrifice because she feared becoming what she saw in the deep roads.
My Dalish Elf became the Warden Commander who in her quiet moments stared longingly at her locket.
So it will be like start of Awakening with Orlesion Warden for the dead ones.