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Aren't dragons supposed to be rare?


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The dragons have been reappearing after nearly 300 years (since the Steel Age) of being thought extinct. Centuries without a single sighting of of a rampaging High Dragon, or traveling dragons looking for lairs, or anyone stumbling upon a lair.

But up to this point in the series, we've seen 3 High Dragons since the start of the Dragon Age in the main games. Another 2 in the books. And also a few more in Journey in and Legends. We see a lot more of regular dragons, drakes, and dragonlings too. They seem to be everywhere and thriving, yet they're supposed to be only recently reappearing. Why is this?

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Because we need long boss fights against dragons in fantasy games. Wherever the story takes the protagonist, they have to come across at least one big dragon.

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Aside from just good plot devices, it could be that the appearance of so many dragons has to do with the events in DA:O. An impending Blight would stir up all sorts of creatures that were in hiding. The dragons in DAII could be residual from that.

Or, the dragons have just always been around, but adventurers and explorers never stumbled upon them - they didn't venture out to the depths or heights where the dragons had taken up residence (as with the High Dragon in the ruined temple in DA:O). And if any brave souls had come across them, they may not have survived the encounters, and therefore the discovery would never be revealed to a greater public.

And maybe the emergence of so many dragons is a sign of some great event to come. A portent of some cataclysm perhaps.

All just theories, mind you. I really lean more towards the plot device/have-to-throw-in-some-tough-fantasy-battles excuse. Image IPB

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Actually, looking up on it a little more, there were dragon rampages between teh Steel Age and the Dragon Age. One was a dragon called Urzura, during the Storm Age and the other was the Queen of the Blackmarsh only a generation before the Dragon Age.

I guess that begs the question as to why people thought the dragon rampage the Age is named after was so remarkable if dragons were popping up every now and then.

Still, it doesn't quite explain the huge and sudden population increase and new abundance of hundreds-of-years old high dragons. It's like they were hiding or something.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 08 mai 2011 - 10:36 .


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Dragons seem the thrive in underground barren strip mines.

Or, Varric lied.

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Dragons are coooool ! at least they are when UNDERUSED.
One dragon is fun, fifty of them from nowhere is tragic and very odd.

Honestly this staple of RPG's is the one that belongs buried for awhile.. Oh wait Skyrim is coming.

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Blacklash93 wrote...

But up to this point in the series, we've seen 3 High Dragons since the start of the Dragon Age in the main games.


Which 3? I counted two: Top of the mountain in DA:O and Bone Pit in DA2. Are you counting either Flemeth or the Archdemon as a high dragon? I don't think either of those two qualify.

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iirc, Thedas residents (Thedasians?) once thought they were extinct, so maybe the whole point is to hint they're on the upswing for a reason we don't know yet?

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hoorayforicecream wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

But up to this point in the series, we've seen 3 High Dragons since the start of the Dragon Age in the main games.


Which 3? I counted two: Top of the mountain in DA:O and Bone Pit in DA2. Are you counting either Flemeth or the Archdemon as a high dragon? I don't think either of those two qualify.


There might have been one in Awakening. There was the scary lightning dragon, but I'm not sure if that counts either.

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hoorayforicecream wrote...

Which 3? I counted two: Top of the mountain in DA:O and Bone Pit in DA2. Are you counting either Flemeth or the Archdemon as a high dragon? I don't think either of those two qualify.


Awakening, shortly before the final stretch to the Architect / Mother.

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Flemeth is rare, thats true, and immune to the taint. 

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

There might have been one in Awakening.


Yeah, there was one in Awakening near the end, so it is indeed three if we count the expansion.

Still, I don't see how 3 High Dragon apperances in the entire series make them non-rare.

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Zjarcal wrote...

Still, I don't see how 3 High Dragon apperances in the entire series make them non-rare.


There's going to be at least one High Dragon in every game. It's ****ing Dragon Age. Not Sometimes There's A Dragon Age.

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I want to be a dragon that leads other dragon's against small insignificant nations like the Free Marches

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Zjarcal wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

There might have been one in Awakening.


Yeah, there was one in Awakening near the end, so it is indeed three if we count the expansion.

Still, I don't see how 3 High Dragon apperances in the entire series make them non-rare.


3 high dragons in 3 games called "Dragon Age" doesn't seem like overexposure to me. If I bought a game called "Dragon Age" and there wasn't a big dragon in it, I'd be unhappy.

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hoorayforicecream wrote...

3 high dragons in 3 games called "Dragon Age" doesn't seem like overexposure to me. If I bought a game called "Dragon Age" and there wasn't a big dragon in it, I'd be unhappy.


Imagine if we bought Pony Age and there were no ponies... :crying::crying::crying:

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I dislike ponies :\\

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Blacklash93 wrote...

But up to this point in the series, we've seen 3 High Dragons since the start of the Dragon Age in the main games. Another 2 in the books. And also a few more in Journey in and Legends.


There were High Dragons in Journeys and Legends?

We see a lot more of regular dragons, drakes, and dragonlings too. They seem to be everywhere and thriving, yet they're supposed to be only recently reappearing. Why is this?

A high dragon is one of mating age. 30 years ago (30-40 years ago) the first High Dragon was spotted.

I have to ask what sort of reproductive cycle and maturity rate you're imagining here because High Dragons maintain clutches of 20-30 dragonlings at a time. Most animals reach sexual maturity in two years. Even if we said ten years for sexual maturity, that's four generations worth of High Dragons.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

A high dragon is one of mating age. 30 years ago (30-40 years ago) the first High Dragon was spotted.

I have to ask what sort of reproductive cycle and maturity rate you're imagining here because High Dragons maintain clutches of 20-30 dragonlings at a time. Most animals reach sexual maturity in two years. Even if we said ten years for sexual maturity, that's four generations worth of High Dragons.

I believe female dragons take a few hundred years to reach full maturity (High Dragon).

They also only lay a clutch every 100 years.

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Blacklash93 wrote...

Why is this?

That's probably a pretty big plot point.

That or they're just giant fire-breathing cicadas.

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Dragons ARE rare. You as the player only see them because you go to places where most people die before they can report back what they might have seen.

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Zjarcal wrote...

Yeah, there was one in Awakening near the end, so it is indeed three if we count the expansion.

The one in the marshes? That was the ghost of a dragon (whose bones we were picking up), there could be a hundred of them and really wouldn't change their "extinct" status.

I don't recall any other dragons, though I may be wrong.

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No, the one in the dragonbone wastes, in the same place where you fight the Varterral in Witch Hunt. It may not be very notable because it's a bit of a pushover.

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Dragon are rare. In DA:O the warden goes across Thedas and encounters two. One in DAO and one in Awakening. Hawke encounters one in DA 2 across the sea from his home country in the Bone Pit. Dragons are standard fare in CRPG. How could a game called Dragon Age not have any?