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Would you rather have had Dragon Age a trilogy with the same character or an ongoing franchise with a different character on each?


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Alistairlover94 wrote...

Giubba1985 wrote...

GreyWarden36 wrote...

Would you rather have Dragon Age a trilogy that revovled around the Warden?
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Would you rather have Dragon Age an ongoing franchise that revovles around different characters on each separate title? (DA3,DA4,DA5...)

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The second choice.

I would love a story that span for the entire dragon age seen through the eye of a different protagonist for each book/game .


Considering how DA2 ended, it seems like Hawke will be the Commander Shepard of the DA franchise from now on(which I hope not!Image IPB)


:huh: With "who know you"  hint at the end ?
To me is like BW put a giant  billboard with flashing neon lights that say "YES! WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER MAIN CHARACTER!"

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I don't really care which characters they use. I want a franchise with a coherent rulset across all of its games.

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GreyWarden36 wrote...

Would you rather have Dragon Age a trilogy that revovled around the Warden?
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Would you rather have Dragon Age an ongoing franchise that revovles around different characters on each separate title? (DA3,DA4,DA5...)

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Option 1.  I think the Warden story could go on forever.  I enjoyed that story much more.  The DA2 story is just okay.

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I would prefer a franchise with a coherent art style and lore. Characters don't matter match, at least as long as I have a RP choice and control over their behavior.

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I would have prefered the possiblity to continue playing the Warden from DAOr or creating a new character. I loved in Baldur's Gate you were able to play the same character again. I just feel attached to my PC when I played with him/her for so many hours....

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New protagonists....I like the idea above of Flemeth collecting the heros for an Avenger's style team.....Weird since that's what I mentioned today at lunch....

Hawke's story and some storyline gaps in DA:2 can be filled with DLC....

I'd like to go to Orlais see what's going on there....go to Antiva....maybe play as a Crow and get hired to kill the Divine in Orlais and maybe try to work out who hired you, why they want you to kill the Divine....do you do it or not? what's up with Sandal and Morrigan and Leliana? Do some bard vs assaisian and political scheming things; gotta go to Tevinter and screw around with them some too (hmmm, tevinter vs qunari?)....some more Elven Lore learned; and then the Anderfels and figure out what's got the Warden's knickers still twisted all up....Maybe see the other Dwarven Thaigs and more dwarven lore

Then Flemeth and the Avenger Hero's team come in to save the world from chaos, usher in a new golden age and peace for all. And this game we travel the world from place to place not just staying in one country/area.

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I would like to play as different characters but have them concretely tied to the proceeding character. For example have Hawke being mentored by the Warden like Duncan did, but not killing off the Warden. Just keep the past protags in the story and in the world at large. This whole they disappeared into the ether thing better pay off in DA3 with the return of all characters or I'm going to freak.

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 different protagonists and characters each game

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I think that "Dragon Age" should be a brand placed on the cover and each game that takes place in that universe should have it's own title, in the same way I have a lot of D&D and AD&D branded games with different titles that aren't related to each other. Eye of the Beholder and Baldur's Gate II both talk about Blackstaff, but no one expects the heroes from one game to appear in the other. That should help those who still have a hard time getting used to the fact that these games are meant to be sequels.

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Abispa wrote...

I think that "Dragon Age" should be a brand placed on the cover and each game that takes place in that universe should have it's own title, in the same way I have a lot of D&D and AD&D branded games with different titles that aren't related to each other. Eye of the Beholder and Baldur's Gate II both talk about Blackstaff, but no one expects the heroes from one game to appear in the other. That should help those who still have a hard time getting used to the fact that these games are meant to be sequels.


I agree with this except the last sentence. If the game game was mean to be a sequel, it sure didn't play like one, at least in the style of the gameplay. IMO,  had they changed the game genre, or altered the name where it wasn't indicative of a sequel instead, it would have probably been a different experience for me. I didn't expect Origins and its characters to carry over, but I expected it to be at least similar in style and gameplay.

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Tommy6860 wrote...

I agree with this except the last sentence. If the game game was mean to be a sequel, it sure didn't play like one, at least in the style of the gameplay. IMO,  had they changed the game genre, or altered the name where it wasn't indicative of a sequel instead, it would have probably been a different experience for me. I didn't expect Origins and its characters to carry over, but I expected it to be at least similar in style and gameplay.

If you followed the development you would have known what to expect. They were entirely up front about the changes.

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Nice question OP. ^_^

I would prefer to have different characters but have them fully cusotmisable, not a set protagonist like Hawke. Would love for old characters I created to pop up in cameos though! That would be amazing, a bit like seeing them as a strager on the street and thinking 'I know that guys story'.

Makes me warm and fuzzy thinking about it.

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No, I do not want the same character, and no, I do not want a trilogy. I would much prefer if Dragon Age went the route of the Elder Scrolls. Only then would 'Dragon Age II' make any sense, since it wasn't a sequel of Origins in any way, shape, or form.

Now, with that in mind, I did NOT feel like the story of my Warden was over, so I would have greatly appreciated if they had given me more with her. Heck, BioWare themselves said the Warden's story would go on longer than it did, but they changed their mind and cranked out DA2 as fast as humanly possible instead. So, her story is over.

I have absolutely zero interest in furthering Hawke's story if it continues to suffer from the same miserable-to-me gameplay changes that were introduced with DA2, since I really didn't like DA2 much at all. Right now I can only hope that the next installment in the DA franchise has changes that bring it more in line with gameplay that I can appreciate.

But I want that new DA game to be with a new character. Hopefully one wherein I will have a choice of what character I can play, but with BioWare's more recent interest in cinematic experiences with pre-set characters, I'm not too sure I'll ever have that again.

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My wardens are done and in well deserved retirement. I don't care who says what, for me their epilogues are written in stone. I will purchase no DLC for them, and if I ever get DA:A it will be played with a new protagonist.

I don't want Hawke back. I never felt as indifferent to any PC as I feel toward her. Make that indifferent to disdainful. I'd rather not play a lazy/inefficient doormat again who cleans up everyone's mess and lets everyone force her into their screw-ups.

A new one it is then, and if they decide to return to their own lore, background, and codices I will be glad. I want a new protagonist, and I want the story to have inner consistency (no, I'm not over MageHawke yet).

I'm fairly confident that if they decide to return to old chars there will be a choice for a new one a la DA:A. It would be quite foolish to force brand new players to purchase and play DA:O and/or DA 2 before they can even start the next DA installment.

All of the above is my personal opinion. YMMV

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Morroian wrote...

Tommy6860 wrote...

I agree with this except the last sentence. If the game game was mean to be a sequel, it sure didn't play like one, at least in the style of the gameplay. IMO,  had they changed the game genre, or altered the name where it wasn't indicative of a sequel instead, it would have probably been a different experience for me. I didn't expect Origins and its characters to carry over, but I expected it to be at least similar in style and gameplay.

If you followed the development you would have known what to expect. They were entirely up front about the changes.


That holier than thou snide defense it getting old too. Some of us expected changes, just not a 180 (which Mr. Laidlaw admitted he did). I didn't want to be spoilered. I knew it wouldnt' have my Warden, and it would be different in some aspects. What I expected, and expect Tommy too, was that the problems of DAO and the meh would be fixed and improved and we would get a new story in the DA universe where our actions would matter and shape the world, and our decisions in DAO would carry over. Not quite what I got.


Sabriana wrote...

My wardens are done and in well deserved retirement. I don't care who says what, for me their epilogues are written in stone. I will purchase no DLC for them, and if I ever get DA:A it will be played with a new protagonist.

I don't want Hawke back. I never felt as indifferent to any PC as I feel toward her. Make that indifferent to disdainful. I'd rather not play a lazy/inefficient doormat again who cleans up everyone's mess and lets everyone force her into their screw-ups.

A new one it is then, and if they decide to return to their own lore, background, and codices I will be glad. I want a new protagonist, and I want the story to have inner consistency (no, I'm not over MageHawke yet).

I'm fairly confident that if they decide to return to old chars there will be a choice for a new one a la DA:A. It would be quite foolish to force brand new players to purchase and play DA:O and/or DA 2 before they can even start the next DA installment.

All of the above is my personal opinion. YMMV


Yeah, I don't care if Hawke comes back. Her companions,yes. Hawke? She was the most boring person in the room, even when it was empty. The dog was more popular and rightfully so.

Like you Sabi, I feel indifferent to Hawke as I have never felt to any PC so far. And this is only my opinion too. Your mileage may vary.

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Trilogy revolving around the Warden.

...but since they've already made Hawke, I hope the next game would involve him/her, but have the Warden back as the 'primary protagonist' (maybe have Hawke become an optional companion). Or a choice between the two (I likes the idea posted some time back where Hawke could be in opposition to the Warden, with Hawke being 'Flemeth's pawn', and the Warden 'Morrigan's'...or something like that)


I mentioned that idea a lot on the forums. Perhaps you read it from one of my posts? ^_^ I, at least, roleplayed my Hawkes to counter my Wardens in philosophy.

But anyway, I agree with this, now that they've already done Hawke for DA2 (I was hoping for a Warden continuation before all the announcements about DA2 last year). Besides, Flemeth didn't have as much of a presence as she was hyped to have in DA2.

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Different protagonists for each new game, and if a dude is popular enough--expansions featuring said popular dude hero.

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erynnar wrote...

Morroian wrote...

Tommy6860 wrote...

I agree with this except the last sentence. If the game game was mean to be a sequel, it sure didn't play like one, at least in the style of the gameplay. IMO,  had they changed the game genre, or altered the name where it wasn't indicative of a sequel instead, it would have probably been a different experience for me. I didn't expect Origins and its characters to carry over, but I expected it to be at least similar in style and gameplay.

If you followed the development you would have known what to expect. They were entirely up front about the changes.


That holier than thou snide defense it getting old too. Some of us expected changes, just not a 180 (which Mr. Laidlaw admitted he did). I didn't want to be spoilered. I knew it wouldnt' have my Warden, and it would be different in some aspects. What I expected, and expect Tommy too, was that the problems of DAO and the meh would be fixed and improved and we would get a new story in the DA universe where our actions would matter and shape the world, and our decisions in DAO would carry over. Not quite what I got.


Sabriana wrote...

My wardens are done and in well deserved retirement. I don't care who says what, for me their epilogues are written in stone. I will purchase no DLC for them, and if I ever get DA:A it will be played with a new protagonist.

I don't want Hawke back. I never felt as indifferent to any PC as I feel toward her. Make that indifferent to disdainful. I'd rather not play a lazy/inefficient doormat again who cleans up everyone's mess and lets everyone force her into their screw-ups.

A new one it is then, and if they decide to return to their own lore, background, and codices I will be glad. I want a new protagonist, and I want the story to have inner consistency (no, I'm not over MageHawke yet).

I'm fairly confident that if they decide to return to old chars there will be a choice for a new one a la DA:A. It would be quite foolish to force brand new players to purchase and play DA:O and/or DA 2 before they can even start the next DA installment.

All of the above is my personal opinion. YMMV


Yeah, I don't care if Hawke comes back. Her companions,yes. Hawke? She was the most boring person in the room, even when it was empty. The dog was more popular and rightfully so.

Like you Sabi, I feel indifferent to Hawke as I have never felt to any PC so far. And this is only my opinion too. Your mileage may vary.


Frankly, I connected more with Commander Shepard. Her Renegade-interrupts are a good comparison to what happens to me once a month, which lasts 4-5 days. I get really, really violent...

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It depends on if the story calls for a continuing protagonist... Shepard's does, what with the Reapers and all.

I'd say Hawke's does as well... he didn't exactly cause the mess, but it feels like he still needs to fix it. It feels like he hasn't really done his part yet for Thedas. DA2 was just about his survival, pretty much, and protecting the people close to him (or trying to).

(I say "he" only because him/her gets cumbersome, y'know)

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If possible, I would prefer DA3 to offer completions of both characters, like seperate origins.


+1

First of all, I want to see my Lady Hawke's story being completed via DLC & Expansion(s).  Then either team 'em up in DA3 or someone entirely new.

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It depends on if the story calls for a continuing protagonist... Shepard's does, what with the Reapers and all.

I'd say Hawke's does as well... he didn't exactly cause the mess, but it feels like he still needs to fix it. It feels like he hasn't really done his part yet for Thedas. DA2 was just about his survival, pretty much, and protecting the people close to him (or trying to).

(I say "he" only because him/her gets cumbersome, y'know)


My, how wonderful! I always wanted another fixed protagonist to a BioWare RPG. Especially one that is supposed to be the "spiritual successor to BG". Gawd... How I despise that dumb-ass dialouge wheel.Image IPB

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I would prefer a new protagonist set in a new country/area for each game. That way we really get a feel for the various regions of Thedas and can gain insight on topics from several different perspectives.

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Alistairlover94 wrote...

Filament wrote...

It depends on if the story calls for a continuing protagonist... Shepard's does, what with the Reapers and all.

I'd say Hawke's does as well... he didn't exactly cause the mess, but it feels like he still needs to fix it. It feels like he hasn't really done his part yet for Thedas. DA2 was just about his survival, pretty much, and protecting the people close to him (or trying to).

(I say "he" only because him/her gets cumbersome, y'know)


My, how wonderful! I always wanted another fixed protagonist to a BioWare RPG. Especially one that is supposed to be the "spiritual successor to BG". Gawd... How I despise that dumb-ass dialouge wheel.Image IPB


What does a fixed protagonist have to do with the (IMHO fine) dialogue wheel?

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Persephone wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Filament wrote...

It depends on if the story calls for a continuing protagonist... Shepard's does, what with the Reapers and all.

I'd say Hawke's does as well... he didn't exactly cause the mess, but it feels like he still needs to fix it. It feels like he hasn't really done his part yet for Thedas. DA2 was just about his survival, pretty much, and protecting the people close to him (or trying to).

(I say "he" only because him/her gets cumbersome, y'know)


My, how wonderful! I always wanted another fixed protagonist to a BioWare RPG. Especially one that is supposed to be the "spiritual successor to BG". Gawd... How I despise that dumb-ass dialouge wheel.Image IPB


What does a fixed protagonist have to do with the (IMHO fine) dialogue wheel?


Paraphrasing.. *shudder*

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neppakyo wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Filament wrote...

It depends on if the story calls for a continuing protagonist... Shepard's does, what with the Reapers and all.

I'd say Hawke's does as well... he didn't exactly cause the mess, but it feels like he still needs to fix it. It feels like he hasn't really done his part yet for Thedas. DA2 was just about his survival, pretty much, and protecting the people close to him (or trying to).

(I say "he" only because him/her gets cumbersome, y'know)


My, how wonderful! I always wanted another fixed protagonist to a BioWare RPG. Especially one that is supposed to be the "spiritual successor to BG". Gawd... How I despise that dumb-ass dialouge wheel.Image IPB


What does a fixed protagonist have to do with the (IMHO fine) dialogue wheel?


Paraphrasing.. *shudder*


Mwahaha. Still has nothing to do with a fixed protagonist. I do hope that the "Hover over the paraphrase to see the full answer" idea (Mentioned by David Gaider) will be implemented, if the wheel is here to stay.:whistle: