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[corporal doody]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Go Jack. Asari get less sexy the more you start thinking about what sex with them would entail. (Such as the lack of a vagina or similar sex organ.)

i think that is more reproductive than for just the physical pleasure. they gotta have a birth canal....somewhere. they are open about their sexual nature and sensuality. some asari characters in the game have been kinda "touchy" with Shep...so im sure physical sex is possible for the pleasure....the melding is like the icing on the proverbial cake. mmmmm cake


edit. stupid pics not went rogue on me!!! NOOOooooooo

Modifié par corporal doody, 10 mai 2011 - 07:39 .

[Niddy']

Jack.

[V-rex]

Out of personal bias I'd say Jack. After all she's my number two favorite gal in the whole franchise.
... Actually, come to think of it, hands of!!

Okay to be serious, I'd still say Jack. Nothing against Liara it's just that Jack would be my personal preference.

[ObserverStatus]

liara > tattooed woman with anger issues

[TobyHasEyes]

laecraft wrote...

Yes, think of the children. An Asari's children won't be yours - they will be Asari's. They'd have none of your genes. You're just a randomizer. And you can never be sure what an Asari really looks like. They're controlling your brain to make you think they look like your species. They might have the appearance of broodmothers for all you know.

Besides, I can't imagine why anyone would want to be with Liara after she leaves you on the hard pavement to pursue her adversary. You take the fall for her, and she drops you, literally. Makes you wonder if she's using her Asari charms to use Shepard to help her with the Shadow Broker. You'll never know. Shepard is well and truly enchanted. But is this real, or is this a mind trick?

 Hope you never introduce that view of childbearing to any adopted kids.. kinda feel the relatiionships are more important than the bare bones genetics. And the "controlling the brain to make you think they look like your species" was intended speculation, which doesn't fit the asari characters we've been shown. An alternative explanation was that the different species simply focused in on their similarities ignoring the differences.

[atheelogos]

for your main canon go for Liara

[AlexMBrennan]

Yes, think of the children. An Asari's children won't be yours - they will be Asari's. They'd have none of your genes.

So you're saying that you only have sex to procreate? I'm not really buying that

Dean_the_young wrote hours ago...
Asari get less sexy the more you start thinking about what sex with them would entail. (Such as the lack of a vagina or similar sex organ.)

You sure like to repeat that argument but Shepard and Liara have evidently worked out mutually pleasurable activities. I don't really see the problem there.

[Thrombin]

GodWood wrote...
Not a sociopath.

Well, we could go with psychopath if you prefer 

[Dean_the_Young]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Dean_the_young wrote hours ago...
Asari get less sexy the more you start thinking about what sex with them would entail. (Such as the lack of a vagina or similar sex organ.)

You sure like to repeat that argument but Shepard and Liara have evidently worked out mutually pleasurable activities. I don't really see the problem there.

I've never denied that you can get pleasured by Asari. I've just pointed out that sex isn't sex as you think of it: it doesn't mean you can't get pleasure (hands alone are enough, really), but the cultural/physiological differences are going to have a significant effect if you aren't prepared or acceping of them and instead just think 'blue woman!'

[Undertone]

Make the choice yourself - it's the only real freedom we have.

If I had to make the choice I would pick Jack in an instant. I can't stand Liara or Tali and how they are shoved up in my face and have to be nice to them all the time. Luckily one problem is already taken care of.

[Undertone]

laecraft wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Yes, think of the children. An Asari's children won't be yours - they will be Asari's. They'd have none of your genes.

So you're saying that you only have sex to procreate? I'm not really buying that

You can have sex with both of them. Why not choose the one you can procreate with?

I'd rather not Shepard's genes be lost. He's an exceptional individual, and I wish he'd procreate with someone. If I recall correctly, he's even got one breeding request...granted, it's from Krogan, but what the hell. Even that is better than Asari. Frankly, I'm amazed he doesn't get more of those. Salarians handle it far better than we do. Not that Shepard can afford being involved with politics right now, but still.

@TobyHasEyes:

Adopted children are good within a human race. But between Asari and every other species, it becomes less rosy. It feels to me like they're offering their personal charm and the carnal pleasures in exchange for reproduction for their own species. And I don't think it's a fair exchange. It's fair on individual level, but less so on the species level. Each human who's had kids with Asair might never be with another human. Our monogamy plus Asari longevity ensure that. Or maybe Asari just offer better sex than humans in general. And thus this human will be forever lost for the genepool of humankind. And since Asari are attactive and selective, we are losing the best of us to them.

It's almost sinister, when you think of it. They're like sexual parasites. Have to rely on other species, make themselves stronger and the other species weak. It makes my skin crawl when I think of Shepard with one of them.

Adoption has nothing to do with it, anyway. If two humans adopt a kid and bring this kid up, the humankind becomes stronger as a result. But if an Asari and a human have a kid together, Asari species become stronger...and humankind gets nothing. This benefits Asari alone.

Such unions tend to benefit only Asari. And they're perfectly aware of this. Just listen to that one Asari who speaks to you about commitment. She says you don't have to wait too long for a human to die. One hundred years is just a frivolous tryst to them. And I wish Liara would stop acting like two years was such a long period of time in her life that she cannot handle all that suffering and uncertainty you give her.

I actually agree with you a lot. However you will find many people here don't care about humanity and would actually work against humanity for some sort of "galactic cooperation".

[Seboist]

"Sex" with an Asari is better than femshep getting her pelvis broken by Garrus' literal "boner". *shudders*

[AlexMBrennan]

I'd rather not Shepard's genes be lost. He's an exceptional individual, and I wish he'd procreate with someone.

Interesting. I can't quite tell if you're serious. Regardless, in addition to being really silly, I think that the genetics argument should be avoided for a couple of reasons.

Also, you seem to confuse factors that would influence Shepard's decisions with factor that influence YOUR decisions (as a player).

However you will find many people here don't care about humanity and would actually work against humanity for some sort of "galactic cooperation".

Well, yes. Why should humanity be any more intrinsically worth preserving than any other species? Eventually someone else with bigger guns will come along and take our place at the top of the food chain (unless we nuke the planet first) anyway.

[TobyHasEyes]

laecraft wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Yes, think of the children. An Asari's children won't be yours - they will be Asari's. They'd have none of your genes.

So you're saying that you only have sex to procreate? I'm not really buying that

You can have sex with both of them. Why not choose the one you can procreate with?

I'd rather not Shepard's genes be lost. He's an exceptional individual, and I wish he'd procreate with someone. If I recall correctly, he's even got one breeding request...granted, it's from Krogan, but what the hell. Even that is better than Asari. Frankly, I'm amazed he doesn't get more of those. Salarians handle it far better than we do. Not that Shepard can afford being involved with politics right now, but still.

@TobyHasEyes:

Adopted children are good within a human race. But between Asari and every other species, it becomes less rosy. It feels to me like they're offering their personal charm and the carnal pleasures in exchange for reproduction for their own species. And I don't think it's a fair exchange. It's fair on individual level, but less so on the species level. Each human who's had kids with Asair might never be with another human. Our monogamy plus Asari longevity ensure that. Or maybe Asari just offer better sex than humans in general. And thus this human will be forever lost for the genepool of humankind. And since Asari are attactive and selective, we are losing the best of us to them.

It's almost sinister, when you think of it. They're like sexual parasites. Have to rely on other species, make themselves stronger and the other species weak. It makes my skin crawl when I think of Shepard with one of them.

Adoption has nothing to do with it, anyway. If two humans adopt a kid and bring this kid up, the humankind becomes stronger as a result. But if an Asari and a human have a kid together, Asari species become stronger...and humankind gets nothing. This benefits Asari alone.

Such unions tend to benefit only Asari. And they're perfectly aware of this. Just listen to that one Asari who speaks to you about commitment. She says you don't have to wait too long for a human to die. One hundred years is just a frivolous tryst to them. And I wish Liara would stop acting like two years was such a long period of time in her life that she cannot handle all that suffering and uncertainty you give her.

 I would cast doubt on the idea that it is Shepard's genes that make him/her a remarkable individual; ana bility to command loyalty and a degree of focus/determination, I do think they are more social qualities than genetic.

 I suppose the point I was making with the adoption wasn't one of making 'humankind stronger' or anything like that, that isn't really mine or my Shepard's aim in life. It was that the value I would find in raising a child wouldn't be in fostering a particular set of genes, but in the relationships involved and imparting values through the upbringing (just as adoption isn't a focus on promoting your own genetics, but in the parenting). I see those values as being realised in a human / Asari relationship as well

 It is only sinister if it is intentional, or I suppose (as many forumities here do) if you have a strong loyalty to a specific human form of sentience; I do not

 And the views of one Asari do not incriminate the entire species, or suggest that Liara is 'faking'

[M8DMAN]

I wouldn't touch jack with a 10 foot pole.
 
She looks like the kind of girl that would give you something Antibiotic's wouldn't clear up!

Modifié par M8DMAN, 10 mai 2011 - 07:24 .

[Moiaussi]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Go Jack. Asari get less sexy the more you start thinking about what sex with them would entail. (Such as the lack of a vagina or similar sex organ.)

But if she can mentally stimulate you as if she does..... ?

[jbblue05]

M8DMAN wrote...

I wouldn't touch jack with a 10 foot pole.
 
She looks like the kind of girl that would give you something Antibiotic's wouldn't clear up!

Mordin would say something if she did

[Herakleia]

laecraft wrote...

Yes, think of the children. An Asari's children won't be yours - they will be Asari's. They'd have none of your genes. You're just a randomizer. And you can never be sure what an Asari really looks like. They're controlling your brain to make you think they look like your species.

Your first part raises an interesting question.  If Asari live much longer than most Council space species, are universally attractive to all of them, can mate with either sex, and always breed true no matter how many non-Asari are in the family tree, you would think that they would ultimately predominate over all other kinds of sentient life.  Darwin would guarantee it.  The ultimate cuckoo species. 

Not sure that the second part is canon, though.  I've never seen anything that suggests that Asari really look differently.  Asari corpses do not change into monsters, so it can't be manipulation. 

[Nerevar-as]

Herakleia wrote...

laecraft wrote...

Yes, think of the children. An Asari's children won't be yours - they will be Asari's. They'd have none of your genes. You're just a randomizer. And you can never be sure what an Asari really looks like. They're controlling your brain to make you think they look like your species.

Your first part raises an interesting question.  If Asari live much longer than most Council space species, are universally attractive to all of them, can mate with either sex, and always breed true no matter how many non-Asari are in the family tree, you would think that they would ultimately predominate over all other kinds of sentient life.  Darwin would guarantee it.  The ultimate cuckoo species. 

Not sure that the second part is canon, though.  I've never seen anything that suggests that Asari really look differently.  Asari corpses do not change into monsters, so it can't be manipulation. 

The drunken guys (one from each spacies) in the bar in Illium. Apparently asari can make themselves look attractive to each species, if you ignore videos, armor and who knows what else.

[Malanek]

Nerevar-as wrote...
The drunken guys (one from each spacies) in the bar in Illium. Apparently asari can make themselves look attractive to each species, if you ignore videos, armor and who knows what else.

That is just a joke.

[Reapinger]

Asari have evolved to look attractive to every species because they have no males. It's only logical that evolution would favor Asari that look appealing to the most species.

[Herakleia]

Nerevar-as wrote...

The drunken guys (one from each spacies) in the bar in Illium. Apparently asari can make themselves look attractive to each species, if you ignore videos, armor and who knows what else.

I always understood that bit as saying that each species saw something attractive in Asaris; not that each species was seeing a different Asari.