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[General_Minus]

Will Bioware after ME3 say what is consider canon like if Shepard is a:

Biotic or human?
Male or female?
Good or evil?
pro alliance or pro cerberus?

[Obro]

I think they stated before that there really is no canon or something like that.

[Matchy Pointy]

Canon shepard is whatever your canon Shepard is.

[General_Minus]

Obro wrote...

I think they stated before that there really is no canon or something like that.

Impossible. There has to be a canon for the story to continue after ME3 or there to be a spin-off

[Augoeides]

I don't think there is a canon of there will ever be a canon. I will view any Shepard produced by the team at Bioware as yet another interpretation of the Shepard character but never as a canon Shepard.

[Vez04]

General_Minus wrote...

Obro wrote...

I think they stated before that there really is no canon or something like that.

Impossible. There has to be a canon for the story to continue after ME3 or there to be a spin-off

ME3 = Shepards Final Story.

[General_Minus]

Augoeides wrote...

I don't think there is a canon of there will ever be a canon. I will view any Shepard produced by the team at Bioware as yet another interpretation of the Shepard character but never as a canon Shepard.

But stories has to have a canon for it to continue. This is basic classical literacy course in college

edit: Yes its sheaprd final story but they have to declare a canon or else the ME series will be in a stand still

Modifié par General_Minus, 10 mai 2011 - 10:02 .

[Leonia]

There is no canon.

*insert "Deal with it" image here*

[Vez04]

leonia42 wrote...

There is no canon.

*insert "Deal with it" image here*

I can do that

[General_Minus]

leonia42 wrote...

There is no canon.

*insert "Deal with it" image here*

So the ME series ends at ME3?

*edit* where does everyone get photos like those? Do you keep files of them stored in your computer? 

Modifié par General_Minus, 10 mai 2011 - 10:08 .

[javierabegazo]

I'm pretty sure that all the canon we'll get is "A human named Commander Shepard stopped the Reapers."

In anycase, there's plenty of space for BioWare to work with in the Mass Effect Universe without them having to ever have to establish what happened in the trilogy, i.e. Prequels, etc

[Fates end]

General_Minus wrote...

Augoeides wrote...

I don't think there is a canon of there will ever be a canon. I will view any Shepard produced by the team at Bioware as yet another interpretation of the Shepard character but never as a canon Shepard.

But stories has to have a canon for it to continue. This is basic classical literacy course in college

edit: Yes its sheaprd final story but they have to declare a canon or else the ME series will be in a stand still

They could utilize an import feature that would import the decisions into another Mass Effect game.  That's just one of the options they would have when making another Mass Effect game.  Really, they have quite a few choices, I doubt they'll create a canon version.

[Augoeides]

General_Minus wrote...

Augoeides wrote...

I don't think there is a canon of there will ever be a canon. I will view any Shepard produced by the team at Bioware as yet another interpretation of the Shepard character but never as a canon Shepard.

But stories has to have a canon for it to continue. This is basic classical literacy course in college

edit: Yes its sheaprd final story but they have to declare a canon or else the ME series will be in a stand still

You assume that there will be a ME series post-Shepard.

The easiest way continue without a canon Shepard is through MOAR comics, importing ME3 data, or by keeping any references to the Mass Effect 1-3 series ultra neutral.

Shepard is also redundant if future installments are pre-Shepard era or extremely post-Shepard, the issue only potentially exists if any further games are set in the time frame where Shepard is a clear contemporary.

[Leonia]

For all we know, the next game might happen before the triology or at the same time or several hundered years in the future.

I hate to bring up DA as a comparison but.. there was no canon established with Origins other than "The Warden stopped the Blight" and that was how it was referenced in DA2.

[General_Minus]

Augoeides wrote...

General_Minus wrote...

Augoeides wrote...

I don't think there is a canon of there will ever be a canon. I will view any Shepard produced by the team at Bioware as yet another interpretation of the Shepard character but never as a canon Shepard.

But stories has to have a canon for it to continue. This is basic classical literacy course in college

edit: Yes its sheaprd final story but they have to declare a canon or else the ME series will be in a stand still

You assume that there will be a ME series post-Shepard.

The easiest way continue without a canon Shepard is through MOAR comics, importing ME3 data, or by keeping any references to the Mass Effect 1-3 series ultra neutral.

Shepard is also redundant if future installments are pre-Shepard era or extremely post-Shepard, the issue only potentially exists if any further games are set in the time frame where Shepard is a clear contemporary.

The series can work pre-ME1 style but not post-ME3. The choices we be getting in ME3 will decide fates of civilizations that will be nearly impossible to work with and like DA2, they have to declare a canon and retcons to make it work or else the series will be in a stand-still

[1Minsc1]

If i understand the meaning of 'canon' correctly, it means "that what happens in every playtrough and is not influecend by players decision". So Shep became a spectre in ME1, that's canon. His/her sex, class, skills can't be canon. If Wrex is alive in ME2 can't be canon, and so on.
Starting a ME2/ME3 without importing a character means starting with default setting, not with canon.

[DeadLetterBox]

General_Minus wrote...

Augoeides wrote...

I don't think there is a canon of there will ever be a canon. I will view any Shepard produced by the team at Bioware as yet another interpretation of the Shepard character but never as a canon Shepard.

But stories has to have a canon for it to continue. This is basic classical literacy course in college

edit: Yes its sheaprd final story but they have to declare a canon or else the ME series will be in a stand still

Guess what?  They actually don't teach you everything in college.  Especially in classic literature.

Bioware is known for its innovative storytelling.  You're just going to have to be content with all the possibilities, and losing that argument to female gamers about it not being possible for there to really be a female Shepard.

[Merci357]

General_Minus wrote...

Augoeides wrote...

I don't think there is a canon of there will ever be a canon. I will view any Shepard produced by the team at Bioware as yet another interpretation of the Shepard character but never as a canon Shepard.

But stories has to have a canon for it to continue. This is basic classical literacy course in college

edit: Yes its sheaprd final story but they have to declare a canon or else the ME series will be in a stand still

Just look at the ME novels or comics. Shepard get's barely referenced, if at all. And I'm fine with that.

[Augoeides]

General_Minus wrote...

Augoeides wrote...

General_Minus wrote...

Augoeides wrote...

I don't think there is a canon of there will ever be a canon. I will view any Shepard produced by the team at Bioware as yet another interpretation of the Shepard character but never as a canon Shepard.

But stories has to have a canon for it to continue. This is basic classical literacy course in college

edit: Yes its sheaprd final story but they have to declare a canon or else the ME series will be in a stand still

You assume that there will be a ME series post-Shepard.

The easiest way continue without a canon Shepard is through MOAR comics, importing ME3 data, or by keeping any references to the Mass Effect 1-3 series ultra neutral.

Shepard is also redundant if future installments are pre-Shepard era or extremely post-Shepard, the issue only potentially exists if any further games are set in the time frame where Shepard is a clear contemporary.

The series can work pre-ME1 style but not post-ME3. The choices we be getting in ME3 will decide fates of civilizations that will be nearly impossible to work with and like DA2, they have to declare a canon and retcons to make it work or else the series will be in a stand-still

You're making assumptions again. The genocide of an entire species is a long one, by the sounds of it, various species will be devastated by the Reaper incasion, but there's no guarantee that any species will be completely wiped out.

Secondly, depending on how far from Mass Effect 1-3 you can make Post work pretty well, and what if they take it from the POV of a place in space untouched by the events of Mass Effect 1-3, though ultimately freed from a Reaper plotline by that trilogy.

[General_Minus]

Merci357 wrote...

General_Minus wrote...

Augoeides wrote...

I don't think there is a canon of there will ever be a canon. I will view any Shepard produced by the team at Bioware as yet another interpretation of the Shepard character but never as a canon Shepard.

But stories has to have a canon for it to continue. This is basic classical literacy course in college

edit: Yes its sheaprd final story but they have to declare a canon or else the ME series will be in a stand still

Just look at the ME novels or comics. Shepard get's barely referenced, if at all. And I'm fine with that.

Those novels occured before ME1, between the time shepard is dead, and post ME2 but before ME3

But the series wouldn't continue after unless they account all 1,000 choice variables that is said to transfer over

[Never]

I just hope they don't pull a Revan. My Shep is happy being female

[Leonia]

General_Minus wrote...

Those novels occured before ME1, between the time shepard is dead, and post ME2 but before ME3

But the series wouldn't continue after unless they account all 1,000 choice variables that is said to transfer over

The novels are great examples of how the writers can reference to Shepard WITHOUT establishing canon. Try thinking outside the box a little before you panic about the need to have canon.

[Vez04]

General_Minus wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

There is no canon.

*insert "Deal with it" image here*

So the ME series ends at ME3?

*edit* where does everyone get photos like those? Do you keep files of them stored in your computer? 

Google images various titles search up extensive searching.

[General_Minus]

Vez04 wrote...

General_Minus wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

There is no canon.

*insert "Deal with it" image here*

So the ME series ends at ME3?

*edit* where does everyone get photos like those? Do you keep files of them stored in your computer? 

Google images various titles search up extensive searching.

Why would people have a window or a tab ready for googling images unless...

[DRSH]

Canon Shepard is a soldier with no biotics... this explains why in shadow broker he doesn't uses biotics to save himself from a certain fall. Other than that... why does it matter? my shepard is my shepard, your shepard, is your shepard... what's the big deal?