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[jamesp81]

Someone from Bioware was quoted (can't remember where) as saying that the star in the background is a clue to TIM's location.  I got to thinking about this, and developed my own personal theory.

I think it's tied up in Greek mythology and symbolism.  Cerberus, of course, is the three headed dog that guards the entrance to the underworld.  Those who have died are guided beyond the sun to their final resting place in the underworld.  In this sense, my opinion is that the star in the background is Earth's sun and Cerberus, the guardian, stands watch over it.

But the solar system is a big place, so where's he at in the solar system?  Let's go back to Greek mythology and symbolism for a moment.  I mentioned above that the dead are guided to their final resting place beyond the sun in the underworld.  The Greek mythological figure that serves as the dead's guide in this journey is Hermes.  The Romans had the same figure in their pantheon.  They called him Mercury.

That's my theory on the matter then.  TIM hangs out on a base on the surface of, or in orbit of, Mercury.

[Seboist]

TIM's base is constantly on the move.

[Chewin]

Seboist wrote...

TIM's base is constantly on the move.

Basically this. But just for the fun I'll add this pic

[Destroy Raiden_]

On a reaper or in some underground vault.


Chewin3  that was one of my fav planets btw.

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 10 mai 2011 - 01:51 .

[specter520]

Earth's sun (the star sol) does not change color and it is not as late in it's lifespan as the one that appears to be behind TIM, other than that I think it is a well thought out theory.

[MisanthropePrime]

If we're going with the whole greco-roman thing, wouldn't it be logical to say he's somewhere in the Hades Nexus?

[Tripedius]

Hades nexus could be logical --> charon --> cerberus --> hades, and in the hades cluster there is this system called Sheol with a planet called Gei Hinnom which both could stand for jewish afterlife, aka hades. However no blue sun there.

[Jzadek72]

Tripedius wrote...

Hades nexus could be logical --> charon --> cerberus --> hades, and in the hades cluster there is this system called Sheol with a planet called Gei Hinnom which both could stand for jewish afterlife, aka hades. However no blue sun there.

It's a cluster. We haven't visited all the stars there. There's almost certainly a blue star somewhere in the area.

[aimlessgun]

jamesp81 wrote...

Someone from Bioware was quoted (can't remember where) as saying that the star in the background is a clue to TIM's location.  I got to thinking about this, and developed my own personal theory.

I think it's tied up in Greek mythology and symbolism.  Cerberus, of course, is the three headed dog that guards the entrance to the underworld.  Those who have died are guided beyond the sun to their final resting place in the underworld.  In this sense, my opinion is that the star in the background is Earth's sun and Cerberus, the guardian, stands watch over it.

But the solar system is a big place, so where's he at in the solar system?  Let's go back to Greek mythology and symbolism for a moment.  I mentioned above that the dead are guided to their final resting place beyond the sun in the underworld.  The Greek mythological figure that serves as the dead's guide in this journey is Hermes.  The Romans had the same figure in their pantheon.  They called him Mercury.

That's my theory on the matter then.  TIM hangs out on a base on the surface of, or in orbit of, Mercury.

If you can come up with a plausible explanation of why the sun looks like that, I'll buy it.

[Leonia]

I thought Charon was the ferryman who helped the souls cross the rivers in Hades? The Charon relay is in the Sol system. But I think trying to connect the dots with Greek mythology will just leave us hanging. There are a lot of systems with Greek names and a lot of them are randomly named as such.

[Dr.Theory]

I always thought that TIM was studying another "dying to fast" star like the one on Tali's recruitment mission. If you observe closely from start to finish the star that TIM sits in front of starts as a main sequence star and then get's progressively bluer as if becoming a blue super giant. But then again he could just be moving around. There do seem to be a LOT of dark energy references throughout ME2 centering around the star, parasini and the collectors. Could be that the Collectors or Harbinger were conducting experiments for some sort of tech yet unknown. Though what Dark energy could do to stars is beyond me. As of today it is the word for a theoretical particle or energy that is speeding the expansion of the universe up. I am not entirely sure how that could cause a sun to grow old and or nova. Hope they had a physicist give advice on this plot device before inserting it into the story.

It would be interesting if as a trump card the Reapers can simply ignite a system's star and run away.

Modifié par Dr.Theory, 10 mai 2011 - 06:56 .

[jamesp81]

aimlessgun wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

Someone from Bioware was quoted (can't remember where) as saying that the star in the background is a clue to TIM's location.  I got to thinking about this, and developed my own personal theory.

I think it's tied up in Greek mythology and symbolism.  Cerberus, of course, is the three headed dog that guards the entrance to the underworld.  Those who have died are guided beyond the sun to their final resting place in the underworld.  In this sense, my opinion is that the star in the background is Earth's sun and Cerberus, the guardian, stands watch over it.

But the solar system is a big place, so where's he at in the solar system?  Let's go back to Greek mythology and symbolism for a moment.  I mentioned above that the dead are guided to their final resting place beyond the sun in the underworld.  The Greek mythological figure that serves as the dead's guide in this journey is Hermes.  The Romans had the same figure in their pantheon.  They called him Mercury.

That's my theory on the matter then.  TIM hangs out on a base on the surface of, or in orbit of, Mercury.

If you can come up with a plausible explanation of why the sun looks like that, I'll buy it.

I imagine the sun looks quite different from the orbit of Mercury than it does from Earth's orbit.

Or maybe his image projectors tone down the brightness, thus the 'dark' spots.

Hell if I know, I'm just making **** up for fun.

[100k]

MisanthropePrime wrote...

If we're going with the whole greco-roman thing, wouldn't it be logical to say he's somewhere in the Hades Nexus?

This is the conclusion I came to a while back. Cerberus originated in the Hades Nexus, just as Cerberus the beast guarded the realm of Hades.

[Dr.Theory]

I would have to say that while poetic it would be increasingly unlikely that TIM would make it that easy for anyone to narrow down exactly where he was located.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Seboist wrote...

TIM's base is constantly on the move.

This--according to Retribution.

What's funny, though, is Mac Walters seemed to hint otherwise in a recent interview with GameInformer.

[Jzadek72]

jamesp81 wrote...

aimlessgun wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

Someone from Bioware was quoted (can't remember where) as saying that the star in the background is a clue to TIM's location.  I got to thinking about this, and developed my own personal theory.

I think it's tied up in Greek mythology and symbolism.  Cerberus, of course, is the three headed dog that guards the entrance to the underworld.  Those who have died are guided beyond the sun to their final resting place in the underworld.  In this sense, my opinion is that the star in the background is Earth's sun and Cerberus, the guardian, stands watch over it.

But the solar system is a big place, so where's he at in the solar system?  Let's go back to Greek mythology and symbolism for a moment.  I mentioned above that the dead are guided to their final resting place beyond the sun in the underworld.  The Greek mythological figure that serves as the dead's guide in this journey is Hermes.  The Romans had the same figure in their pantheon.  They called him Mercury.

That's my theory on the matter then.  TIM hangs out on a base on the surface of, or in orbit of, Mercury.

If you can come up with a plausible explanation of why the sun looks like that, I'll buy it.

I imagine the sun looks quite different from the orbit of Mercury than it does from Earth's orbit.

Or maybe his image projectors tone down the brightness, thus the 'dark' spots.

Hell if I know, I'm just making **** up for fun.

It'd still have to be yellow, though. The sun is not blue or red.

[J0HNL3I]

hes on the normandy hiding, that why he always has a good signal when he talks to shepard

[Reapinger]

I'm going to say he is in the Hades Nexus! The star also changes color after the collector base mission if you decide to destroy the base, which I found interesting.

[MikeNoBrake]

Theoretically the Illusive Man, at the end of ME2, is near one of the binary stars of Chewin3's image because is the only sistem in the known galaxy where there are a blue and a red one at the same time. But this is only speculations because the blue star of the paragon ending and the red one of the renegade ending are only an author's stylistic choice.

And then who assures us that TIM can't be in different places? In the sequence we seen only one star , not two.

Modifié par MikeNoBrake, 10 mai 2011 - 09:07 .

[Reapinger]

Seboist wrote...

TIM's base is constantly on the move.

Uhhh you mean like in Orbit or do you consider that standing still? 

[Wulfram]

TIM is an AI. He's an illusive man.

[Cosmar]

^ Now that's an interesting idea I hadn't considered before.

There was another landable planet in ME1 other than what was posted in this thread where the sun looked just like that...it was huge and swirly and red, just like the one behind TIM.

Probably just a coincidence though...can't remember the planet's name anyway.

[Jzadek72]

J0HNL3I wrote...

hes on the normandy hiding, that why he always has a good signal when he talks to shepard

Shep goes into bathroom.
TIM: Oh shi-