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[Haexpane]

The "deep roads" should have been called "narrow, long rat maze with GARBAGE loot at the end"

[Sylvius the Mad]

Haexpane wrote...

NO !  Console gamers do not "willfully choose" not having mods for games.  That is the Sony/Microsoft decision.

But it's not a secret.  Aside from those vague hints (of which I suspect most gamers are unaware), consumers know they can't mod console games, so by choosing a console they're choosing the inability to mod (at least, mod without violating ToS).

Certainly gamers know that mods are far more common for PC titles.

[Dormiglione]

tonnactus wrote...

Dormiglione wrote...

How much apprecation did Mass Effect 2 had if it had not carried on Shepard's story.

It would be better because shepardt wasnt really important for the plot of the game anyway(good leader /symbol where most of the aliens even didnt know who he was,sure) ,unlike in the first game with the prothean visions.
Mordin and the illusive man were,of course,more important for Mass Effect 2 then shepardt.

I dont think that many share your opinion about that. Its not only about "how important" is Shepard for the mission, its about the story, the past of shepard in ME1, his companions and how decisions made in ME1 make a difference in ME2.

Many people would have loved to see the story of Morrigan, Shale, Wynne, Leliana, Alistair, Sten continued.

[SkittlesKat96]

I think it's a decent game, just rushed and a bit of a disappointment.

The problem is the Bioware forum is full of the vocal hardcore Rpg fans and they think that they are great in number and act as if they are the only people of DA 2's fanbase...people like me actually enjoyed the game a little bit and I think that a lot of the changes are for the better (voiced protagonist, new companion system, most of the art style changes besides the darkspawn one etc.)

[erynnar]

SkittlesKat96 wrote...

I think it's a decent game, just rushed and a bit of a disappointment.

The problem is the Bioware forum is full of the vocal hardcore Rpg fans and they think that they are great in number and act as if they are the only people of DA 2's fanbase...people like me actually enjoyed the game a little bit and I think that a lot of the changes are for the better (voiced protagonist, new companion system, most of the art style changes besides the darkspawn one etc.)

I understand Skittles, you liked many of the things I did not. That's perfectly okay. As to being the greater number? Well, I honestly can't answer that anymore than you can claim to be the bigger majority. The only thing that might give us an idea about that...the sales...and they don't look so good for the changes.

[Sylvius the Mad]

SkittlesKat96 wrote...

I think it's a decent game, just rushed and a bit of a disappointment.

The problem is the Bioware forum is full of the vocal hardcore Rpg fans and they think that they are great in number and act as if they are the only people of DA 2's fanbase...people like me actually enjoyed the game a little bit and I think that a lot of the changes are for the better (voiced protagonist, new companion system, most of the art style changes besides the darkspawn one etc.)

Undoubtedly, DA2 does some things better than DAO.  the overall story structure, I think, is much better in DA2.  DAO presents you with the main enemy as soon as the origin is over, and from then on that's the whole of the main plot.  DA2 hides the main plot from you for many hours of gameplay, and that's hugely better.

But the new combat system in DA2 is unbelievably bad.  It's just horrific.  There's exactly one aspect of the combat where I can understand what it was BioWare was trying to improve (the ability to intercept opponents, which still doesn't work very well in DA2, but clearly it gave some people come trouble in DAO).  But beyond that, the new combat is unequivocally awful.

[neppakyo]

Sales trend is getting worse after week 9 so far. rough estimate at 17,000 worldwide I believe. Looking at that, could be that the majority found the game "meh".

[Mick301981]

Dr. rotinaj wrote...

Persephone wrote...

I for one was GLAD to see stuff like DAO's DR and The Fade GONE. (The "Skip The Fade" Mod is popular for a reason) 

So how about not twisting everything into a generalization? Enjoy the DR grinding. I'll enjoy the faster paced quests DAII has to offer. (And those that DAO has to offer, mind you) 

Really? I liked the DR. The Fade was a pain in the ass though, though I didn't hate it because it was a large area but because it was just filler content. 

The above is pretty much what I thought of the Fade.  The length wasn't the issue for me, the content was.   The solo combat and puzzle solving bored me to tears.

If they had focused less on those aspects and more on the companions nightmares, I would have found it much more interesting.  Instead of having large zones like Darkspawn invasion and Burning Tower, have large zones for each companion's nightmare,  showing some details about their pasts.  Of course you wouldn't want to learn everthing about them, as that would make the companion exposition conversations meaningless.

That's what I would like to see for the Fade in future DA games.  If I'm going to go into someone's nightmare, I want to really get inside their head. 

Didn't mind the deep roads though.  It's the darkspawn's home base, so it should be expansive in my opinion.

A bit long and somewhat off-topic, but that's my two cents. 

Modifié par Mick301981, 14 mai 2011 - 04:27 .

[erynnar]

And I loved the Fade. And I like puzzles and I don't see them as filler. The bridge one was a pain, but still...ROFL! Different strokes for different folks.

I see seemingly endless waves of enemies to fight as filler. And how boring. The only mental taxation it might take is if I were to fall asleep and hit my head on my computer desk from the tedium. Probably the similar injury worry for folks who hated the Fade. ROFL!

Modifié par erynnar, 14 mai 2011 - 04:31 .

[Mick301981]

erynnar wrote...

And I loved the Fade. And I like puzzles and I don't see them as filler. The bridge one was a pain, but still...ROFL! Different strokes for different folks.

Different strokes indeed:P.

I also dislike solo combat. I bought DAO  primarily for the party combat aspect.

Same reason I disliked the Mass Effect Arrival dlc.

Modifié par Mick301981, 14 mai 2011 - 04:33 .

[PaulSX]

Crap game is crap, time wont change it. time only proves how great DAO is

[Alexander1136]

culletron1 wrote...

So its been over a month since most of us have finished the game and I would love to know how people feel now that time has passed.

Has DA2 grown fonder in your mind or does the memory of it hurt more with each passing day?

Nope. I hate the art direction the "streamlining" and the voiced PC. The only reason i got it was for the story. I knew the gameplay was gonna be crap and the story didnt really reveal anything new that we didnt already know before the game came out. There is a person named Hawke he/she becomes champion of kirkwall and then the world is on the brink of war. Hawke didnt even need to exist and all that crap would have happened.
[edited out spoiler contating the one part that i was excited about that lasted like 5mins.]  I got my Platinum Trophy so im done with it I'm just going to wait until some story related DLC comes out otherwise im not playing it again.

Modifié par Alexander1136, 14 mai 2011 - 04:58 .

[Goldrock]

Everyone was told it was gonna be a complete diffrent games style when they announced the damn thing like a year ago next time do some research you would know what to expects now just hush it up alot of us loved the game and its still got the bioware signature story driven gameplay which is what bioware is all about.

[dreadpiratesnugglecakes]

Tried starting a second game with a male hawke as a rouge; had to grit my teeth through the opening; I can't stand the new look of the darkspawn. Made to to Kirkwall..grind until my first encounter with the battle cattle...I loathe the redesign of the Qunari. Had to quit. I don't see any resolution to my issues with the game:

Hated the reboot of the Darkspawn, elves, and Qunari.
Combat actually makes me laugh with the absurdity of 1 hit exploding bodies and ninja mages
Hated the characterization of Anders..don't much care for having the Unabomber in my group.

I played the game initially and was able to enjoy myself for the most part but after the Bioware version of Transformers Revenge of the Giant Statues at the end, I was really fed up and disappointed. Thought a second play would improve my outlook..didn't. Just gave up.

[Cody211282]

Not even the horror of cramming for finals makes this game seems any better.

[BeefoTheBold]

My opinion has not changed. Deeply disappointing game, particularly by Bioware's former standards, but not an outright terrible one.

But my bitterness has not faded one iota. Saw the recent rumor that Obsidian is considering a Planescape: Torment remake and my first thought was, "Damn...don't know if I should be thrilled or horrified. On the one hand, lots of folks involved with the original Torment. On the other hand, Obsidian can't release a polished game to save their lives."

Then my second thought was, "A couple of years ago I'd have happily given up my left testicle to have Bioware remake Torment or do a sequel, but I wouldn't trust them with it at all anymore."

And not just for Dragon Age 2. They've been going down the path to the darkside for a little while now.

[BeefoTheBold]

erynnar wrote...

SkittlesKat96 wrote...

I think it's a decent game, just rushed and a bit of a disappointment.

The problem is the Bioware forum is full of the vocal hardcore Rpg fans and they think that they are great in number and act as if they are the only people of DA 2's fanbase...people like me actually enjoyed the game a little bit and I think that a lot of the changes are for the better (voiced protagonist, new companion system, most of the art style changes besides the darkspawn one etc.)

I understand Skittles, you liked many of the things I did not. That's perfectly okay. As to being the greater number? Well, I honestly can't answer that anymore than you can claim to be the bigger majority. The only thing that might give us an idea about that...the sales...and they don't look so good for the changes.

Exactly. I haven't posted a lot lately, but I am getting pretty damn sick of the defenders of DA2 claiming that only a vocal minority here on the forums have major issues while the large silent majority are being overlooked and unheard from.

[Dormiglione]

Goldrock wrote...

Everyone was told it was gonna be a complete diffrent games style when they announced the damn thing like a year ago next time do some research you would know what to expects now just hush it up alot of us loved the game and its still got the bioware signature story driven gameplay which is what bioware is all about.

Im sure a lot of people did as much research as they could. Went through podcast and read all informations that emerged on several site.

Key Features:
- Embark upon an all-new adventure that takes place across an entire decade and shapes itself around every decision you make.
- Determine your rise to power from a destitute refugee to the revered champion of the land.
- Think like a general and fight like a Spartan with dynamic new combat mechanics that put you right in the heart of battle whether you are a mage, rogue, or warrior.
- Go deeper into the world of Dragon Age with an entirely new cinematic experience that grabs hold of you from the beginning and never lets go.
- Discover a whole realm rendered in stunning detail with updated graphics and a new visual style.

>> "shapes itself around every decision you make"

A key feature!

[neppakyo]

Dormiglione wrote...

Goldrock wrote...

Everyone was told it was gonna be a complete diffrent games style when they announced the damn thing like a year ago next time do some research you would know what to expects now just hush it up alot of us loved the game and its still got the bioware signature story driven gameplay which is what bioware is all about.

Im sure a lot of people did as much research as they could. Went through podcast and read all informations that emerged on several site.

Key Features:
- Embark upon an all-new adventure that takes place across an entire decade and shapes itself around every decision you make.
- Determine your rise to power from a destitute refugee to the revered champion of the land.
- Think like a general and fight like a Spartan with dynamic new combat mechanics that put you right in the heart of battle whether you are a mage, rogue, or warrior.
- Go deeper into the world of Dragon Age with an entirely new cinematic experience that grabs hold of you from the beginning and never lets go.
- Discover a whole realm rendered in stunning detail with updated graphics and a new visual style.

>> "shapes itself around every decision you make"

A key feature!

Did they forget all those key features along with auto-attack for the consoles?

[erynnar]

Goldrock wrote...

Everyone was told it was gonna be a complete diffrent games style when they announced the damn thing like a year ago next time do some research you would know what to expects now just hush it up alot of us loved the game and its still got the bioware signature story driven gameplay which is what bioware is all about.

And why don't you go crawl back under your bridge and play it? Some of us may have done the *gasp* research and still feel we got hosed. The reasons are on the constructive crit thread, and the review thread.  

In the meantime I can post here as long as I follow the forum rules. I just wonder why you're here when you could be playing instead of telling the rest of us to hush. Seems you could be spending your time elsewhere, unless you'd like to have a lively and reasoned debate instead of your troll statements?

[erynnar]

BeefoTheBold wrote...

erynnar wrote...

SkittlesKat96 wrote...

I think it's a decent game, just rushed and a bit of a disappointment.

The problem is the Bioware forum is full of the vocal hardcore Rpg fans and they think that they are great in number and act as if they are the only people of DA 2's fanbase...people like me actually enjoyed the game a little bit and I think that a lot of the changes are for the better (voiced protagonist, new companion system, most of the art style changes besides the darkspawn one etc.)

I understand Skittles, you liked many of the things I did not. That's perfectly okay. As to being the greater number? Well, I honestly can't answer that anymore than you can claim to be the bigger majority. The only thing that might give us an idea about that...the sales...and they don't look so good for the changes.

Exactly. I haven't posted a lot lately, but I am getting pretty damn sick of the defenders of DA2 claiming that only a vocal minority here on the forums have major issues while the large silent majority are being overlooked and unheard from.

Well my advice for them would be to get their hind ends on this forum and start posting more.  Because I didn't post at all when DAO came out to give feedback and now I am wondering if that might have made  a difference for DA2.

[BeefoTheBold]

erynnar wrote...

Goldrock wrote...

Everyone was told it was gonna be a complete diffrent games style when they announced the damn thing like a year ago next time do some research you would know what to expects now just hush it up alot of us loved the game and its still got the bioware signature story driven gameplay which is what bioware is all about.

And why don't you go crawl back under your bridge and play it? Some of us may have done the *gasp* research and still feel we got hosed. The reasons are on the constructive crit thread, and the review thread.  

In the meantime I can post here as long as I follow the forum rules. I just wonder why you're here when you could be playing instead of telling the rest of us to hush. Seems you could be spending your time elsewhere, unless you'd like to have a lively and reasoned debate instead of your troll statements?

*snickers just a bit* 

Your tone's gotten just a little sharper since the last time I saw you on here. Has it been that bad of a few weeks on this board?

[BeefoTheBold]

erynnar wrote...

BeefoTheBold wrote...

erynnar wrote...

SkittlesKat96 wrote...

I think it's a decent game, just rushed and a bit of a disappointment.

The problem is the Bioware forum is full of the vocal hardcore Rpg fans and they think that they are great in number and act as if they are the only people of DA 2's fanbase...people like me actually enjoyed the game a little bit and I think that a lot of the changes are for the better (voiced protagonist, new companion system, most of the art style changes besides the darkspawn one etc.)

I understand Skittles, you liked many of the things I did not. That's perfectly okay. As to being the greater number? Well, I honestly can't answer that anymore than you can claim to be the bigger majority. The only thing that might give us an idea about that...the sales...and they don't look so good for the changes.

Exactly. I haven't posted a lot lately, but I am getting pretty damn sick of the defenders of DA2 claiming that only a vocal minority here on the forums have major issues while the large silent majority are being overlooked and unheard from.

Well my advice for them would be to get their hind ends on this forum and start posting more.  Because I didn't post at all when DAO came out to give feedback and now I am wondering if that might have made  a difference for DA2.

I've been wondering the same thing. I was never active posting here because, by and large, I loved all of Bioware's games to death. Became active with the recent trendlines (not just DA2) that I've been seeing from them post-merger.

[erynnar]

neppakyo wrote...

Dormiglione wrote...

Goldrock wrote...

Everyone was told it was gonna be a complete diffrent games style when they announced the damn thing like a year ago next time do some research you would know what to expects now just hush it up alot of us loved the game and its still got the bioware signature story driven gameplay which is what bioware is all about.

Im sure a lot of people did as much research as they could. Went through podcast and read all informations that emerged on several site.

Key Features:
- Embark upon an all-new adventure that takes place across an entire decade and shapes itself around every decision you make.
- Determine your rise to power from a destitute refugee to the revered champion of the land.
- Think like a general and fight like a Spartan with dynamic new combat mechanics that put you right in the heart of battle whether you are a mage, rogue, or warrior.
- Go deeper into the world of Dragon Age with an entirely new cinematic experience that grabs hold of you from the beginning and never lets go.
- Discover a whole realm rendered in stunning detail with updated graphics and a new visual style.

>> "shapes itself around every decision you make"

A key feature!

Did they forget all those key features along with auto-attack for the consoles?

Apparently so.

[TheTranzor]

BeefoTheBold wrote...

erynnar wrote...

SkittlesKat96 wrote...

I think it's a decent game, just rushed and a bit of a disappointment.

The problem is the Bioware forum is full of the vocal hardcore Rpg fans and they think that they are great in number and act as if they are the only people of DA 2's fanbase...people like me actually enjoyed the game a little bit and I think that a lot of the changes are for the better (voiced protagonist, new companion system, most of the art style changes besides the darkspawn one etc.)

I understand Skittles, you liked many of the things I did not. That's perfectly okay. As to being the greater number? Well, I honestly can't answer that anymore than you can claim to be the bigger majority. The only thing that might give us an idea about that...the sales...and they don't look so good for the changes.

Exactly. I haven't posted a lot lately, but I am getting pretty damn sick of the defenders of DA2 claiming that only a vocal minority here on the forums have major issues while the large silent majority are being overlooked and unheard from.

Well, to be honest... in any business, those who are dissatisfied are always going to be the most vocal.  For the most part, those who are dissatisfied represent a minority (remember, even 49% is a minority compared to 51%).

I've worked in the video game industry for more years than I care to admit, and that's always been the case... for every 10 angry people who are vocally upset, there's another 90 who generally are pleased with the game, or at least don't hate it enough to post about it. 

Modifié par TheTranzor, 14 mai 2011 - 06:32 .