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Rolenka

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I know it's been talked about, but they worded it so masterfully (even if they are wrong about the number of same-sex relationships):

You can also have sex with certain companions (including one same-sex relationship), and if you're a persuasive Lothario you can manage multiple intimate relationships, but your romantic partners will get bitter at two-timing.

You're essentially castigated for any sexual conquest, however, since the actual sex scenes look like laughably bad outtakes from puppet-sex in the film Team America, and are even less sensual.


(it's cool to post -- "fair use" exemption in copyright law)

Modifié par Rolenka, 19 novembre 2009 - 05:39 .


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There's nothing wrong with that number. If you play a male you have the option of one homosexual romance (zev) and two heterosexual ones(imoen, morrigan). If you play a female you have the option of one homosexual romance (imoen), and two hetereosexual ones (zev, alistair). 

Secondly, I think the romance conclusion are truly a marvelous view of the uncanny valley.

Modifié par TheSmilingDude, 19 novembre 2009 - 05:57 .


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imoen?

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Count Viceroy

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If you ever played baldurs gate, you'd realise the strong similarities of Imoen and leliana.

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the love scenes are pretty funny :)

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Except she's not your sister.

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Rolenka wrote...

I know it's been talked about, but they worded it so masterfully (even if they are wrong about the number of same-sex relationships):

You can also have sex with certain companions (including one same-sex relationship), and if you're a persuasive Lothario you can manage multiple intimate relationships, but your romantic partners will get bitter at two-timing.

You're essentially castigated for any sexual conquest, however, since the actual sex scenes look like laughably bad outtakes from puppet-sex in the film Team America, and are even less sensual.


(it's cool to post -- "fair use" exemption in copyright law)


If it also said they had horrible gay music I would 100% agree

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ROFL!



Hadnt thought of the sex sceens in that manner but PC Gamer 100% correct!



The sex sceens are like laughably bad outtakes from puppet-sex in the film Team America, and are even less sensual.



Glad to see im not the only one bothered by this in a ADULT GAME!

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yeah glad my computer is in my room with privacy. I'd be embarassed to show those scenes to my brother. Although I'd probably feel that way even if the scenes were erotic in some way.



It's a no win situation though. I always thought the fade to black was kind of cheesy too. I think they should have had the removal of clothing, and stopped after that.

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Duck and Cover wrote...

yeah glad my computer is in my room with privacy. I'd be embarassed to show those scenes to my brother. Although I'd probably feel that way even if the scenes were erotic in some way.

It's a no win situation though. I always thought the fade to black was kind of cheesy too. I think they should have had the removal of clothing, and stopped after that.


That works!

Or they could have removal of clothes and then a character blow out candle like in the final Morrigan sex sceen.

But this strip to bra and panties (expecially when bra and panties were not there for normal cloths in Morrigan (bra) place) is just laughable!

And I dont care if the ****** crowd does call me names like they been doing, I find the option for same sex stuff being rubbed in our faces alot more questionable then a pair of breasts are!

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kab wrote...

Except she's not your sister.


Neither is Imoen. You just have a sibling-like relationship with her emotionally. Later, you discover she's your half sister.

Kalfear wrote...

And I dont care if the ****** crowd does
call me names like they been doing, I find the option for same sex
stuff being rubbed in our faces alot more questionable then a pair of
breasts are!


Rubbed in your face? They don't even flirt with you until you make the first move. You don't even have to let them into your party, if it bothers you that much.

Modifié par Rolenka, 20 novembre 2009 - 01:50 .


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The sex scenes are all pretty laughable. I did find it interesting though, that if you bed Zevren as a male elf, he's on top, but if you're a male human, you get to top him. Not sure why that would be, but good on them for giving us some variety.

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Kalfear wrote...

ROFL!

Hadnt thought of the sex sceens in that manner but PC Gamer 100% correct!

The sex sceens are like laughably bad outtakes from puppet-sex in the film Team America, and are even less sensual.

Glad to see im not the only one bothered by this in a ADULT GAME!


I hate to point this out (I lie, I love it), but we are talking about an AMERICAN adult game. It seems that some american adults get horribly shocked to see stuft that most european kids see as rather commonplace.

Gothic 2, it's outdated graphics aside, had a far more "rewarding" sex-scene. But then the gothic games were german, and they didn't back down from the "sensitive" stuff.

I always find it amusing (and very, very sad) that a game never gets much criticism no matter how much blood and gore it shows, it is even OK with prepostrous "female armor", but should there be more to romance than pretty words and perhaps a kiss, the censure comes crashing down like the moon on Montana.

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Count Viceroy wrote...

If you ever played baldurs gate, you'd realise the strong similarities of Imoen and leliana.


There are superfical similarities. They're red-heads with similar hairstyles. On the other hand, Imoen isn't a bisexual spy and assassin who thinks god sends her visions.

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So either there is a piece on Fox News blasting the game as smut aimed at children or PC gamer calls it puppet sex? I think the former rather than later is definitely the way to go.

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Kalfear wrote...

Duck and Cover wrote...

yeah glad my computer is in my room with privacy. I'd be embarassed to show those scenes to my brother. Although I'd probably feel that way even if the scenes were erotic in some way.

It's a no win situation though. I always thought the fade to black was kind of cheesy too. I think they should have had the removal of clothing, and stopped after that.


That works!

Or they could have removal of clothes and then a character blow out candle like in the final Morrigan sex sceen.

But this strip to bra and panties (expecially when bra and panties were not there for normal cloths in Morrigan (bra) place) is just laughable!

And I dont care if the ****** crowd does call me names like they been doing, I find the option for same sex stuff being rubbed in our faces alot more questionable then a pair of breasts are!


Huh? How exactly is it "rubbed in your face"? In my playthrough with a male character I didn't see the slightest whif of homosexuality, neither in the party nor outside it.

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Eliende wrote...

I hate to point this out (I lie, I love it), but we are talking about an AMERICAN adult game.


BioWare is a Canadian company. CANADIAN.

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SDNcN wrote...

So either there is a piece on Fox News blasting the game as smut aimed at children or PC gamer calls it puppet sex? I think the former rather than later is definitely the way to go.


I disagree. If you can show monsters being beheaded and killed slow-mo-style, a little sex really is nothing at all. But then I am not an american. ;)

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For an adult game I found the sex scenes like something out of a PG-13 movie, hell the sex scene in 300 is steamier than the ones in Dragon Age and 300 was only rated R. xD

Modifié par vocalemuse, 20 novembre 2009 - 02:03 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

Eliende wrote...

I hate to point this out (I lie, I love it), but we are talking about an AMERICAN adult game.


BioWare is a Canadian company. CANADIAN.


Yeah, the difference is astounding when it comes to cultures there, isn't it... :P

And you know as well as I do that even if the cultures were very different in these matters, BW would still have to go with what the american censurship allows. Anything else would be economic suicide. Sadly.

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SDNcN wrote...

So either there is a piece on Fox News blasting the game as smut aimed at children or PC gamer calls it puppet sex? I think the former rather than later is definitely the way to go.


There are people who buy games because of those sensationalized reports. I know it helped me buy Mass Effect.

It's not like the kind of parent put off by that is going to buy an M-Rated game for their little snowflake anyway, media frenzy or no.

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Eliende wrote...

Kalfear wrote...

ROFL!

Hadnt thought of the sex sceens in that manner but PC Gamer 100% correct!

The sex sceens are like laughably bad outtakes from puppet-sex in the film Team America, and are even less sensual.

Glad to see im not the only one bothered by this in a ADULT GAME!


I hate to point this out (I lie, I love it), but we are talking about an AMERICAN adult game. It seems that some american adults get horribly shocked to see stuft that most european kids see as rather commonplace.

Gothic 2, it's outdated graphics aside, had a far more "rewarding" sex-scene. But then the gothic games were german, and they didn't back down from the "sensitive" stuff.

I always find it amusing (and very, very sad) that a game never gets much criticism no matter how much blood and gore it shows, it is even OK with prepostrous "female armor", but should there be more to romance than pretty words and perhaps a kiss, the censure comes crashing down like the moon on Montana.


I agree with you there, there was a game that had the sex scenes cut in the American version but not in European (except for Germany I think) and that was Farenheit or as it was called in America, Indigo Prophecy. 

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Most of the time the Media Frenzy is caused by a parent BECAUSE they don't bother to look at the ratings on the games that they buy for little Johnny, and then they get worked up about it.

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I tend to look at the romance culmination scenes as very disjointedly edited foreplay, not actual sex. They're good enough for what they are. At least they have something there.

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Medivan wrote...

Most of the time the Media Frenzy is caused by a parent BECAUSE they don't bother to look at the ratings on the games that they buy for little Johnny, and then they get worked up about it.


Yeah, they feel they SHOULD have the right to buy him an XXX-rated game without having to see filth or immorality! ;D