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#4476
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PrinceOfFallout13 wrote...
how in the holy jesus do you have a 80 hour playtrough and 28% game complete?


The "% complete" thing is a bit of nonsense actually, it just tracks how many of the achievements have been unlocked.

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Good grief I can't believe people are still complaining about the price. It's only 5 USD....no big deal. As for those complaining that these smaller DLCs are replacing expansions....it's way too early to expect an expansion. This game hasn't even been out for 2 months and we won't see an expansion for at least 4 more months though likely a year or so.

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Cryo84 wrote...

So this DLC will fix my Ostagar infinite leveling glitch?


Wasn't that fixed in 1.02?

Gunny5821 wrote...

We are
sometimes our own worse enemies, "So let it be written, So let it be
done" (!00 biscuit points for the person who can name the movie that
gave us that quote)......................


That was Yul Brynner as Rameses II in "The Ten Commandments" ^_^

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Darth_Trethon wrote...
Good grief I can't believe people are still complaining about the price. It's only 5 USD....no big deal. As for those complaining that these smaller DLCs are replacing expansions....it's way too early to expect an expansion. This game hasn't even been out for 2 months and we won't see an expansion for at least 4 more months though likely a year or so.

5$ for a dungeon, 1 hour maximum play, a dog and armor king is not too expensive, it is theft.
If we add the lie of BioWare about the decrease in the price and the sell part of the game + DLC instead of the whole game starts to do too much for me to continue to accept that !
We can not complain later if the game quality decreases

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Trajan60 wrote...

Rob Bartel wrote...

I suspect it would take a typical first-time player about an hour to complete.


FAIL.


Total FAIL, I am NOT buying this DLC if you make it that short. I got screwed once with Wardens Keep I am not getting screwed again by this fail of a DLC. THREE hours or more ina DLC or forget it I'm not buying it, period!

Bioware, your idea of what is a good time-playing DLC is so far between what we want. Sorry, any person with half a mind will know this is a total screw over.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

Good grief I can't believe people are still complaining about the price. It's only 5 USD....no big deal. As for those complaining that these smaller DLCs are replacing expansions....it's way too early to expect an expansion. This game hasn't even been out for 2 months and we won't see an expansion for at least 4 more months though likely a year or so.


So what's the first expantion going to be for this game?  2 hours if the DLC is 1 hour? Forget it, you want our money give us longer play-thru's. This is preposterous to want $5 for a less then 1 hour DLC.

Modifié par Yelina, 31 décembre 2009 - 12:38 .


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For those seeking a longer expansion than the upcoming "Return to Horse Armor" (just kidding, Bioware :P) here's a piece of speculative news posted over at BluesNews:
    
Dragon Age: The Awakening Expansion Revealed?
    
[Dec 30, 2009, 9:20 pm ET]
A post in Czech on Eurogamer.cz has word on Dragon Age: The Awakening, which they say is the first retail expansion for Dragon Age: Origins, BioWare's recently released RPG, saying this will offer new items and a level cap increase and is expected in March, 2010 (thanks LS). They report the revelation was made by a premature online listing for the add-on, but this is obviously still speculative for the time being. Here is a translation from Google of part of their story: "Details of the expansion's contents are still only preliminary and may still change. Awareness will follow the story chronologically Dragon Age: Origins and promises a huge portion of the additional content. You play as a completely new main character, including his own prologue (separate Origin Story), the new campaign. Completion of the central storyline to take approximately 15 hours, as compared to the 100-hour original is not too much, and have consequences for the rest of the game."


Let the speculation begin...

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5$ for a dungeon, 1 hour maximum play, a dog and armor king is not too expensive, it is theft.


Not bought a Happy Meal lately have you? Are you tell me you get more time and enjoyment from a $5.00 McDonalds meal than from an hour of game play? Seriously? Not sure about you but I eat a lot faster than 5 minutes from McDonalds. On top of that it has no re-eat value. Eat it once and it is done without more money, you mcan replace the DLC. Oh wait there is more, you do not get to KEEP your food, it is only rented as it passes through.

Come on folks lets get serious we crap $5 every day on stuff and now we compalin becuase a game charges us $5 for more of it? If it is to expensive to you then do not buy it. You think it is a rip off then do not buy it. Sheesh that is all you need to do..

Personally I will happily forsake a McDonalds lunch this week for the DLC, seems to be a fair trade off.

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Well, call me a fan boy (it's probably true), but I for one appreciate all the hard work you guys have been putting in. I'm disappointed that I won't see Return to Ostagar until the 5th of January, as I'll be back at work, but a Christmas launch was always going to be difficult to achieve, especially with the apparent setbacks.



Some thoughts on the price. Well, I must pay about £5.00 to see a film at the cinema, and I'm assuming that it must be something similar in other countries. And seeing how I'll get about 1-2 hours out of the DLC, that seems fair. I'm not sure what some people are moaning about - computer entertainment has never been particularly cheap and I remember buying games for the SNES that were £40-50, in 1992!



You can have my money, BioWare. Just keep the good games coming!

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RichardBlackrose wrote...

For those seeking a longer expansion than the upcoming "Return to Horse Armor" (just kidding, Bioware :P) here's a piece of speculative news posted over at BluesNews:
    
Dragon Age: The Awakening Expansion Revealed?
    
[Dec 30, 2009, 9:20 pm ET]
A post in Czech on Eurogamer.cz has word on Dragon Age: The Awakening, which they say is the first retail expansion for Dragon Age: Origins, BioWare's recently released RPG, saying this will offer new items and a level cap increase and is expected in March, 2010 (thanks LS). They report the revelation was made by a premature online listing for the add-on, but this is obviously still speculative for the time being. Here is a translation from Google of part of their story: "Details of the expansion's contents are still only preliminary and may still change. Awareness will follow the story chronologically Dragon Age: Origins and promises a huge portion of the additional content. You play as a completely new main character, including his own prologue (separate Origin Story), the new campaign. Completion of the central storyline to take approximately 15 hours, as compared to the 100-hour original is not too much, and have consequences for the rest of the game."


Let the speculation begin...




***deliberately ignoring all the overwhelming "waaaaaaaa" from the other members***

That is good news. A 15 hour expansion should deffinitely shut the whiners up though I doubt they'll actually manage to release it March.....but April or May should be fine too.

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With this thought, you're in the process of approving that Bioware has no respect for his players because they lied and did not have enough respect for him even to keep its commitments.

I find it incredible that some may approve it by purchasing their next DLC.

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hmm $5 = about £3.10p
Bargin if you ask me. thats a qtr cheese meal.
that sort of cash cant buy much else so whats the fuss.
Well you could get a pint of beer or 10 ciggies. But,, none last very long,, but a DLC can be played again and again.
And more bits to use in the Toolset Image IPB
And if what is said about the expansion is true,,, Happy New Year indeed Image IPB
Tnx Bioware, more fun please. Image IPB
(Itching to use points)

Modifié par dalethfc, 31 décembre 2009 - 02:39 .


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To paraphrase maddox, for every DLC you don't buy, I'm going to buy three :P

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RichardBlackrose wrote...

For those seeking a longer expansion than the upcoming "Return to Horse Armor" (just kidding, Bioware :P) here's a piece of speculative news posted over at BluesNews:
    
Dragon Age: The Awakening Expansion Revealed?
    
[Dec 30, 2009, 9:20 pm ET]
A post in Czech on Eurogamer.cz has word on Dragon Age: The Awakening, which they say is the first retail expansion for Dragon Age: Origins, BioWare's recently released RPG, saying this will offer new items and a level cap increase and is expected in March, 2010 (thanks LS). They report the revelation was made by a premature online listing for the add-on, but this is obviously still speculative for the time being. Here is a translation from Google of part of their story: "Details of the expansion's contents are still only preliminary and may still change. Awareness will follow the story chronologically Dragon Age: Origins and promises a huge portion of the additional content. You play as a completely new main character, including his own prologue (separate Origin Story), the new campaign. Completion of the central storyline to take approximately 15 hours, as compared to the 100-hour original is not too much, and have consequences for the rest of the game."


Let the speculation begin...




Thanks, but next time may l suggest adding a link, it will often save the op and others a lot of nerd rage:)
www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=+Dragon+Age%3A+The+Awakening&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=b36c7832dbb01be6

Modifié par Viglin, 31 décembre 2009 - 03:20 .


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RichardBlackrose wrote...

For those seeking a longer expansion than the upcoming "Return to Horse Armor" (just kidding, Bioware :P) here's a piece of speculative news posted over at BluesNews:
    
Dragon Age: The Awakening Expansion Revealed?
    
[Dec 30, 2009, 9:20 pm ET]
A post in Czech on Eurogamer.cz has word on Dragon Age: The Awakening, which they say is the first retail expansion for Dragon Age: Origins, BioWare's recently released RPG, saying this will offer new items and a level cap increase and is expected in March, 2010 (thanks LS). They report the revelation was made by a premature online listing for the add-on, but this is obviously still speculative for the time being. Here is a translation from Google of part of their story: "Details of the expansion's contents are still only preliminary and may still change. Awareness will follow the story chronologically Dragon Age: Origins and promises a huge portion of the additional content. You play as a completely new main character, including his own prologue (separate Origin Story), the new campaign. Completion of the central storyline to take approximately 15 hours, as compared to the 100-hour original is not too much, and have consequences for the rest of the game."


Let the speculation begin...





If this is true (and that's a big maybe) i'm just wandering how will they succeed in the continuation of the story line? I mean, everyone here chose a different ending... well, we'll just have to wait amde see...

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Seifz wrote...

Bomfy wrote...

Seifz wrote...

Wait.

What happened to the price drop down to $4? You're really charging $5 for an hours worth of content?


No drop, a 5-spot is the price of admission.  There wasn't much of an explination, unless I missed it.


Yeah.  I want an explanation, since apparently feedback from the community was the initial inspiration for the price cut.  What happened?


I don't get this. A bar raises it's price of alcohol $1, which you will never get back, you may also get many things that you don't want, like herpes, syphillis, children. Yet no-one complains and continues to go and drink. Starbucks raises it's cost of coffee $1, yet you continue to drink it, you get a warm feeling in your tummy for an hour, and then go back and buy more, a few hours later, you ****** it down the loo, no complaints.

A company who makes a dlc, and say you know what, $5 is going to be our rate of return on this game, without totally raping you (like bethesda and the $4 horse armour, which sucked, because my horse died all the time falling down mountains) and people complain.

If a price increase in something means you are going to be totally complaining, then maybe, just maybe, you could always start not drinking, don't buy starbucks, cut out mcdonalds, and start saving some money for some more DLC.

Nuff said.

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ozenglish wrote...

If a price increase in something means you are going to be totally complaining, then maybe, just maybe, you could always start not drinking, don't buy starbucks, cut out mcdonalds, and start saving some money for some more DLC.


People are complaining because Rob said the price was going to be lower and now we find out it's not. It's not the price itself for everyone it's that they were told one thing but now another thing is happening. The price doesn't bother me, but I can see how being told it would drop when it isn't can cause some frustration.

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jennamarae wrote...

ozenglish wrote...

If a price increase in something means you are going to be totally complaining, then maybe, just maybe, you could always start not drinking, don't buy starbucks, cut out mcdonalds, and start saving some money for some more DLC.


People are complaining because Rob said the price was going to be lower and now we find out it's not. It's not the price itself for everyone it's that they were told one thing but now another thing is happening. The price doesn't bother me, but I can see how being told it would drop when it isn't can cause some frustration.


See, my answer to this, I work retail with a head office. So I am used to things being one thing, and then another in the space of 10minutes. I understand where people are coming from, but I also read, that the amount of work they had to do to the Ostagar dlc, esp with bug fixing and all meant more man hours than was allocated, so they had to keep it at 5. To me, that is like being paid overtime if I go to work when I am not allocated.

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ozenglish wrote...

See, my answer to this, I work retail with a head office. So I am used to things being one thing, and then another in the space of 10minutes. I understand where people are coming from, but I also read, that the amount of work they had to do to the Ostagar dlc, esp with bug fixing and all meant more man hours than was allocated, so they had to keep it at 5. To me, that is like being paid overtime if I go to work when I am not allocated.


The solution I think would have been for Rob not to have said they were dropping the price. Doing so leads to false expectations when then leads to people feeling like they're getting ripped off or taken advantage of. They knew they were going to have to do more work on the DLC when he came on here saying the price was going down so it's not like it was a surprise when they had to spend more man hours on it.

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I wonder why Rob hasnt come back to explain why he told us something and is going back on his word? Im not too bothered about the $5 price tag but I very unhappy with been told one thing and then another happening.
Imagine walking into a shop and the attendant offers you a stereo for $40. Then when you get to the till and he knows you want the stereo and he says actually the will be $50 dollars sucker.

Very bad way to treat a custormer I would say. Infact My whole experience with the support n this game has been a poor one so far. Whats happening with the ever increasing load time problem?

I hope Bioware pulls it together I really enjoyed the game itself.

Edit: Spelling.

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Shadesofsiknas wrote...

I wonder why Rob hasnt come back to explain why he told us something and is going back on his word?


The other dev (I'm blanking on the name right now) said they aren't officially back in the office til the 4th so my guess is he's still on vacation.

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Yeah makes sense I keep forgetting its the holidays still. I hope he comes on and says a few words.

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Shadesofsiknas wrote...

I wonder why Rob hasnt come back to explain why he told us something and is going back on his word? Im not too bothered about the $5 price tag but I very unhappy with been told one thing and then another happening.
Imagine walking into a shop and the attendant offers you a stereo for $40. Then when you get to the till and he knows you want the stereo and he says actually the will be $50 dollars sucker.

Very bad way to treat a custormer I would say. Infact My whole experience with the support n this game has been a poor one so far. Whats happening with the ever increasing load time problem?

I hope Bioware pulls it together I really enjoyed the game itself.

Edit: Spelling.


They explained why they kept the $5 price tag instead of making it $3, in Melo's post. Recently buying a Spas 12 I had the same problem, the guy wanted $800 and when I went to send funds he wanted $900. However it's a freakin Spas 12 definitely worth the $100 increase. Anyway the DLC is going to be worth the $5, I mean it's FIVE DOLLARS, seriously I'm betting a lot of people in here have bought Avatar clothing for that price.

As for the support, it depends on when you tried getting help, I mean hello they've been getting flame mails, and other outragious nerd rage aimed at them. They could've pulled an Ubisoft and cut support all together like they did on Rainbow Six Vegas 2.


For the Increasing load problem, clear your cache. If on the xbox go into memory management and hit Y, DO NOT SELECT FORMAT. Last but not least, you hope bioware pulls it together? At my last glance it's because of them that you even have a game to complain about. Without Bioware you wouldn't really have many RPG games worth a hoot. Your top RPG's would be Oblivion and Two Worlds, yeeehaaww enjoy that one..

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Hmm, let's see



5$ for a dungeon, 1 hour maximum play, a dog and armor king



Okay, why not. I can afford that.

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are u ppl really complaining about a five dollar price tag... really.. I didnt see the sign that said complaint box on this Loom.. but my addition to this thread will be about the new kings armor is this the only thing that were gettin besides some monslaughter in new map.. what about lvl 25 cap whens that expected ball park wise, im NOT WANTING AN EXACT OR EVEN CLOSE DATE FOR THESE PPL TO OBSSESS OVER... as well these socketed items how can we get a larger variety of runes.. i know theres some room for growth there.. i personally recommend "all" rune.. which when used with other runes would spread effect AOE for other buffs on said weapon.. maybe another vendor with an additional bag in there inventory.. oh and regular crummy rings could sometime come with enchantment slots like sockets on items but not restricted to there class AKA armor or weapon runes.. and BTW he never said for sure price droppin plus for less than 5 dolars what kind of quality can i expect . how do u groan over a hour gameplay but then are mad its more than free..?