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[Salaciouschicken]

veryalien wrote...

Watch me not buy this "add-on."

See? This is how much you guys have kept me as a customer. Hiring incompetents to redo your website and then releasing something we don't want to buy.

What a complete joke you've turned into Bioware. All it takes now is a single other business to enter your market niche and not screw your customer.

What a joke.

I sort of have to agree...I love Dragon Age, but whoever came up with the idea for the final act should be fired. And while I love the story and depth, the battle system is seriously flawed and the repetiveness of some of the abilities and spells can get really annoying. I've played it twice, but only to make up for playing a warrior which I saw as a mistake, and even then playing the final act was extremely irritating. And 5 dollars is a lot for an addon when I fully completed wardens keep in about 25 minutes on hard . If I buy three add-ons that's 15 dollars for a little over an hour of gamplay. Stop kidding yourselves and admit that $5 is a lot., you can remain a fanboy if you wish.

[VanDraegon]

Bagenholt wrote...
STFU you're missing the point.

No, i am not.

[RetrOldSchool]

comparing gameplay hours of DLC's to the full game is ridiculous.



that means that 1 hour DLC of Arkham Asylum should be priced $6, 1 hour DLC of DA:O should be $0,6. That would basically also mean that if the full game Arkham Asylum is $60 then DA:O should be $600. This based on Arkham being a ~10 hour game and DA:O being a 100 hour game.



The opinion that $5 (400MSpoints) is too pricy for 1 hour of gameplay is completely reasonable while comparing DLC game time to full game time is not.

I've already added the points to my Xbox account so I can buy it ASAP when it is released. For me its all about what type of content it is. A 1 hour DA:O DLC with story, converstations, lore (and entries), combat and loot is worth 400MSP for me, but thats how I view it.

I would not consider say an arena with 1 hour of combat and a price to be worth 400MPS (which is why I didnt buy Pinnacle Station for ME, but I bought BDtS and was happy with it).

So I will buy RtO and I hope that I'll think it's worth it.

That being said I'd rather have a Point Lookout type add on with ~5 hours for 800MSP's. 

[awsome_robot]

shouldn't we judge the quality of dlc instead of its length? what if this hour long dlc really good? i, for one don't care how long the content will be, as long as its entertaining it'll be worth it... if it turns out to be lousy, then at least it'll be just an hour long. in other words... wait until the dlc becomes available to see if $5 was/is worth it.

[The Greywolf]

Hmmm. I'll pick it up. as I get all the DLC for the games I have. I don't get many games as RPGs

are my sole interest. DLCs increase the playtime, even if only by an hour. I would like to see

an area with respawning Darkspawn though. Sometimes, I just wanna kill something.

Yeah, I know I'm crazy. Heh.



Eric

[Ryldaun]

Two guys talk after a movie: "hey that was soo great, 3 hours, 1 hour longer than the last movie we saw!" "but it was just a bad movie, you realy liked that?" "of course, as i said it was 3 hours long!"

silly isn't it?

But some people at bioware may come to think: our customers are just like that, give them what they want.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

I am going to buy three copies of the DLC, specifically to tick off the weenies whining in this thread.

[harry dread]

This has probably been said, and i apologize if it has, but how can you judge the quality of anything if nobody outside of bioware has seen RtO? it's the same as saying that the harry potter and the deathly halows film is ****
Wait and see the finished product, and then complain if you hate it, or feel cheated.

Modifié par harry dread, 01 janvier 2010 - 10:00 .

[ToJKa1]

I'll rather wait for the hasty to see it and make my mind after seeing their reaction

[swordofthemaker]

^^ id rather play it love dragon age.....wynne is my favorite person on dao ^^ shes like a mother kind of figure and its more fun now she has some stuff to say about the new dlc....... ^^

[OneMoreRound]

DLC's are always a rip off so no surprise there, I shall still buy it. What does annoy me though is the pointlessly short length of it (the last one felt like a waste of time as I finished it so quick, as will this one). Do a proper expansion pack with 10-20 hours of gameplay as I can't imagine that anyone on here really wants such a short add on.

[ptdreamer]

I just love DAO. It's one of the best RPGs I've played, so any new content is welcome. There are so many things Bioware can show us about it's fantastic world. I haven't finished the game yet and put in almost 100 hours of my life. I enjoyed every single bit of it. My gf was complaining, until she started playing, now she's addicted to this universe. lol. Keep up the good work!



Cheers from Portugal

[L0ckd0wn325]

Two words Duncan's Armor.........'nuf said and way better than Cailans

[Disgruntled Elf]

I didn't mind Warden's Keep as it gave me a place to store stuff until I felt like selling it, even though it was short it was still fun to play. Though I'll admit they need to start charging less for the smaller DLC after adding up $5 here and there you could have bought another game or at lest an expansion pack!

[Count-JN]

Hmm.. so let's get this right. While ago I get inform from this site that pretty much only reason why people complain here is because Bioware did not write here. Now they have done that. Second big complain was that there was not a direct date when Return to Ostagar will be out. Now that is told also.



I was told that what nearly everyone where wait is just even a simple "hello" from someone who work in Bioware. That after people get some word and if possible date from product this complain will stop and people start to say "thank you Bioware".



Correct me if I am wrong but.. they did what people were asking from them.. and now they get complain still.. I bet this will continue untill 5:th day and release.



Can you people who keep on complaining try to even give more direct questions from Return to Ostagar, like what you expect to see more from next releases and so on. After all this was start because of feedback and things like that. Not only tell fans and Bioware that:



a) Releasing something to this game what take nearly 6 year to make will be WAY too late if it is released after 2 month since game have released (I mean really.. in NWN, Baldur's Gate and other games.. I did play them WAY longer then 2 month and buy extra materials.. maybe I am just too old to understand kids now days..)



5$ is too much for this Return to Ostagar what mean none of these who complain have EVER pay let's say 50$ for a game what take only 10 hour or less to play.. or just that by collecting empty bottles or asking your parents you can not get 5$ what I can understand.. it seem that younger and younger people start to learn english and play roleplaying games now days (even if computer then yes, I do count this game as a roleplaying game)



Oh and thank you Bioware because you answer here and let me know release day and price was so cheap!

[Cryo84]

Will this DLC be worth it if the title update removes the Ostagar leveling glitch?

[MassEffect762]

It's going to get harder for Bioware to please fans in the long run(concerning DA), the community mods over at Nexus are already creating some neat stuff that may undermine "motivation" to buy future DLC.

That said I have RTO locked and loaded for action.

On a side note: Bioware, word of advice, concentrate on story and entertainment. I.E. Jokes/Drama/Action/Etc.

I say this because items and loot will NOT, I repeat WILL NOT carry you through in keeping interest in future DLC sales.

Modifié par MassEffect762, 02 janvier 2010 - 02:46 .

[metalica11]

MassEffect762 wrote...

It's going to get harder for Bioware to please fans in the long run(concerning DA), the community mods over at Nexus are already creating some neat stuff that may undermine "motivation" to buy future DLC.

That said I have RTO locked and loaded for action.

On a side note: Bioware, word of advice, concentrate on story and entertainment. I.E. Jokes/Drama/Action/Etc.

I say this because items and loot will NOT, I repeat WILL NOT carry you through in keeping interest in future DLC sales.

 
That said about the modders, that would impact PC gaming, not the way numerous console versions which would cause the DLC's to sell extremely well.  Bioware doeesnt need to worry about it.

[MassEffect762]

metalica11 wrote...

MassEffect762 wrote...

It's going to get harder for Bioware to please fans in the long run(concerning DA), the community mods over at Nexus are already creating some neat stuff that may undermine "motivation" to buy future DLC.

That said I have RTO locked and loaded for action.

On a side note: Bioware, word of advice, concentrate on story and entertainment. I.E. Jokes/Drama/Action/Etc.

I say this because items and loot will NOT, I repeat WILL NOT carry you through in keeping interest in future DLC sales.

 
That said about the modders, that would impact PC gaming, not the way numerous console versions which would cause the DLC's to sell extremely well.  Bioware doeesnt need to worry about it.

I forgot about console sales, that said what do you think the sales ratio/figures are compared to PC sales. I would assume the PC would lead sales in this game though, I may be wrong. Just something for Bioware to keep in the back of thier heads.(like a bleeding wound)

[metalica11]

MassEffect762 wrote...

metalica11 wrote...

MassEffect762 wrote...

It's going to get harder for Bioware to please fans in the long run(concerning DA), the community mods over at Nexus are already creating some neat stuff that may undermine "motivation" to buy future DLC.

That said I have RTO locked and loaded for action.

On a side note: Bioware, word of advice, concentrate on story and entertainment. I.E. Jokes/Drama/Action/Etc.

I say this because items and loot will NOT, I repeat WILL NOT carry you through in keeping interest in future DLC sales.

 
That said about the modders, that would impact PC gaming, not the way numerous console versions which would cause the DLC's to sell extremely well.  Bioware doeesnt need to worry about it.

I forgot about console sales, that said what do you think the sales ratio/figures are compared to PC sales. I would assume the PC would lead sales in this game though, I may be wrong. Just something for Bioware to keep in the back of thier heads.(like a bleeding wound)

Well I never said that PC gaming wouldn't have an impact, just that the consoles would rather almost balance it out in my opinion, you have 2 consoles for the game to supplement the pc version.  Though I will agree that bioware should maybe take a look at what modders are doing, maybe pick of some ideas on what is going on in gamers heads ( as modders usually reflect the gaming community accurately well, as alot of thier mods are from gamers making alot of requests for the same type of content.  I wasnt totally disagreeing with you, just on the fact of Modders ruining dlc sales.

[MassEffect762]

metalica11 wrote...

MassEffect762 wrote...

metalica11 wrote...

MassEffect762 wrote...

It's going to get harder for Bioware to please fans in the long run(concerning DA), the community mods over at Nexus are already creating some neat stuff that may undermine "motivation" to buy future DLC.

That said I have RTO locked and loaded for action.

On a side note: Bioware, word of advice, concentrate on story and entertainment. I.E. Jokes/Drama/Action/Etc.

I say this because items and loot will NOT, I repeat WILL NOT carry you through in keeping interest in future DLC sales.

 
That said about the modders, that would impact PC gaming, not the way numerous console versions which would cause the DLC's to sell extremely well.  Bioware doeesnt need to worry about it.

I forgot about console sales, that said what do you think the sales ratio/figures are compared to PC sales. I would assume the PC would lead sales in this game though, I may be wrong. Just something for Bioware to keep in the back of thier heads.(like a bleeding wound)

Well I never said that PC gaming wouldn't have an impact, just that the consoles would rather almost balance it out in my opinion, you have 2 consoles for the game to supplement the pc version.  Though I will agree that bioware should maybe take a look at what modders are doing, maybe pick of some ideas on what is going on in gamers heads ( as modders usually reflect the gaming community accurately well, as alot of thier mods are from gamers making alot of requests for the same type of content.  I wasnt totally disagreeing with you, just on the fact of Modders ruining dlc sales.

Roger.

If bioware took examples from the mod community...LOL...never mind...so many pervs.(guilty)

Example: http://www.dragonage...file.php?id=469

Not to say thats all the good that comes from mods, plenty of nice stuff to be found.

Modifié par MassEffect762, 02 janvier 2010 - 03:13 .

[JamesX]

RetrOldSchool wrote...

comparing gameplay hours of DLC's to the full game is ridiculous.



that means that 1 hour DLC of Arkham Asylum should be priced $6, 1 hour DLC of DA:O should be $0,6. That would basically also mean that if the full game Arkham Asylum is $60 then DA:O should be $600. This based on Arkham being a ~10 hour game and DA:O being a 100 hour game.



The opinion that $5 (400MSpoints) is too pricy for 1 hour of gameplay is completely reasonable while comparing DLC game time to full game time is not.

I've already added the points to my Xbox account so I can buy it ASAP when it is released. For me its all about what type of content it is. A 1 hour DA:O DLC with story, converstations, lore (and entries), combat and loot is worth 400MSP for me, but thats how I view it.

I would not consider say an arena with 1 hour of combat and a price to be worth 400MPS (which is why I didnt buy Pinnacle Station for ME, but I bought BDtS and was happy with it).

So I will buy RtO and I hope that I'll think it's worth it.

That being said I'd rather have a Point Lookout type add on with ~5 hours for 800MSP's.

If they coudl get away selling Batman for $600 they would.  But the fact remains they couldn't.  That is how DLC work.  They make it seem cheap only because people are short sighted and doesn't know how to add.

And I didn't think Batman was worth the $40 I spent on it.  But that is just personal taste however.  I do believe the 60 I spent on collected edition of Dragon Age was worth it.

[ozenglish]

JamesX wrote...

RetrOldSchool wrote...

comparing gameplay hours of DLC's to the full game is ridiculous.



that means that 1 hour DLC of Arkham Asylum should be priced $6, 1 hour DLC of DA:O should be $0,6. That would basically also mean that if the full game Arkham Asylum is $60 then DA:O should be $600. This based on Arkham being a ~10 hour game and DA:O being a 100 hour game.



The opinion that $5 (400MSpoints) is too pricy for 1 hour of gameplay is completely reasonable while comparing DLC game time to full game time is not.

I've already added the points to my Xbox account so I can buy it ASAP when it is released. For me its all about what type of content it is. A 1 hour DA:O DLC with story, converstations, lore (and entries), combat and loot is worth 400MSP for me, but thats how I view it.

I would not consider say an arena with 1 hour of combat and a price to be worth 400MPS (which is why I didnt buy Pinnacle Station for ME, but I bought BDtS and was happy with it).

So I will buy RtO and I hope that I'll think it's worth it.

That being said I'd rather have a Point Lookout type add on with ~5 hours for 800MSP's.

If they coudl get away selling Batman for $600 they would.  But the fact remains they couldn't.  That is how DLC work.  They make it seem cheap only because people are short sighted and doesn't know how to add.

And I didn't think Batman was worth the $40 I spent on it.  But that is just personal taste however.  I do believe the 60 I spent on collected edition of Dragon Age was worth it.

A couple of points I would like to add here.

DLC is primarily based for console users, who due to whatever reason, don't have the pc version, and therefore have no options to make their own content. Or for that matter, those people who aren't creative enough on PC's to make their own content.

The whole concept of DLC in my opinion, is for companies to put out ideas that they are working on in larger expansions, and to get a feel of what the consumer would like to see. They already are probably half way through an expansion pack already for all we know, but I think the DLC is coming out to for us to see what directions they are leading the story in, or in RtO, I think to stop Allistair from having a nervous breakdown over Duncan and not being sent to the Circle of Magi and get turned into a Tranquil.

Unless people in this forum started asking serious questions, about what is getting put into the DLC, and how the DLC is going to be affecting what is happening in other parts of the Gaming world, then I think that the Moderators and Devs are going to stay out of sight, until we start acting like interested gamers and not a group of spoiled 5 year old children with a computer.

So, my first question is, where do we see RtO fitting in to the Grander schemes of the game world. Will it be used to tie up Allistairs plot lines, give us clues as to the direction we are heading after the blight? Will it answer my question, who is the hot bloned with the tan, in Denerim market, what is she doing there, standing all alone? Would she like some company of my mage?

[Warden24]

As much as everyone here seems to be complaining and pissing and moaning, I bet everyone in this thread will buy the dlc. People really need to STFU and be thankful, because I'm sure if Bioware didn't release ANY dlc, someone would have a conniption.



Thank you for finalizing the release date, looking forward to more nuggets from you guys at Bioware.

[Evylgirl]

Modifié par Evylgirl, 02 janvier 2010 - 05:49 .