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[Bluesmith]

Feraele wrote...

One other question, I loved Warden's Keep but found it a bit short, no matter.   What I want to know is..there was a quest I was never able to finish because I exited the Keep before I realized there was more to do, will there be a future opportunity possibly in this new dlc coming up...to reenter the keep and finish up?

Thanks.

I would consider letting us back into the keep a bugfix, actually. The permanently incomplete quest is frustrating; at least it now seems we'll be able to finish Ostagar/Kocari Wild quests after the fact. 

I was also hoping to *use* the keep, rather than merely its courtyard. I was told that they'd have it cleaned up for me when I returned... lazy merchants.

[xeno_cws]

Raxxman wrote...

Can people stop with the 5 bucks is a McDonalds arguement.
1. Why are you comparing a game which you clearly profess to enjoy with the worst fast food chain in existence?

2. It's more like paying $5 for a Mars bar, sure Mars bars are good, but they're $1 and not worth $5.

3. Food has nutritional value, try living off computer games alone, no seriously please do.

Anyway, logic fallacy arguments aside, my question is:
With the apparent success of episodic content breathing life back into the point and click adventure genre, as shown by 2 seasons of sam and max, and a new monkey island campaign by telltale, why is it that Bioware hasn't adopted a similar DLC strategy?

Dragon Age lives and dies by it's story, yet excluding the stone prisoner, which has openly been admitted that it was going to be part of the game in the first place, the two DLCs announced have distilled down to a short dungeon romp with scraps of plot and some reskinned armour sets.

Surely a game like Dragon Age should be playing to it's strength. And a mini arc campaign spanning a 6 month release schedule in say 3 - 3-6 hour packets is a much more palatable proposition and plays to the companies strength, story telling, over it's weakness, combat.

Not expecting an answer mind.

Have to agree with Raxx here.

After purchasing Wardens keep I dont feel these DLC's seem to be worth it at all. Sure 5 bucks is nothing, but I would rather I spent it on something then reused art sets and a hack and slash dungeon rump.

Had this DLC completely new visuals and engaging plot (even for an hour) and something different/interesting to it I would have no problems. The only thing that seems to be new from the information presented is some new voice overs which while great I  can't justify spending 5 bucks for them.


Are we going to see DLC thats longer then an hour or two?

Personally I would rather pay $5 for some of the game balancing, such as some mages spells. Force Field on a warrior with taunt almost always means a win with no damage taken. Heck I fought a dragon with this combo and the warrior didnt take more then a quarter damage, Then theres CoC and crushing prison which makes combat a laugh.

Then theres the templar class which I think of everyone agrees is terrible. Dog with his overwhelm skill is a far better mage killar then the templars could ever hope for. Theres also the 2handed warriors who wouldnt be so bad except for the fact that Rogues and Mages do a far greater DPS then them and also have better defense.

While I havent played with archers they also seem rather underpowered and the arrows I find are more fitting to be sold then actually used.


I love this game but it seems Bioware is to quick going for the buck instead of implementing more meaninful and lasting changes and that makes me sad

[nisallik]

Kevin Lynch locked the other thread for discussing about the DLC model. If we wish to discuss about price/quality of DLC, we have to take it to off-topic.



There is a different team that is making patches, so the DLC being made has no effect on the patching team.

[TheRealIncarnal]

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

Rob Bartel wrote...
I suspect it would take a typical first-time player about an hour to complete.

There will be outrage.

Not from me, but from all the people that thought Wardens Keep was a rip-off and whatnot.

So very true.

Personally, 5$ for an hour isn't bad for me, not to mention it's going to be used throughout the game, but I do anticipate that people will go ape over this.

[Octane30]

Oh wow 1hr?! LOL omg no way, I will not even buy it then, Maybe 3-4hrs would be acceptible. c'mon, I'll even buy out the next shipment of DAO at gamestop lol...really!

[Chromie]

Yes really only 1 hour now STFU LOLOLOL I can type LOL to more times then you LOLOLOL!

[Zweijsters]

I don't mind paying five dollahs for more Dragon Age. However I would gladly pay more, for more content. In one DLC package that is.



Gold mine for Bioware if you ask me, ill pay 20 dollahs hands down for 6 hours of 'new' content.



As for getting back on topic.



Here's a question. Will there be Undead Cailans to slay? Morality for the win

[Wishpig]

I 2nd Zweijster's post. One one hand I really liked Warden's keep... but it was only like an hour long. Four to five DLC's down the live and I'll have spent prob over 30 dollars for prob less then 10 hours of gameplay if upcoming DLC is anything like Warden's keep.



The problem is it adds up fast.



I also 2nd the desire to fight undead Cailans, I don't see where else we would get the armor... other then prying it off his corpse which seems wrong.

[Neil Decurio]

Can you make Ancient Elven Boots drop from one of the enemies slain at the Ostagar battlefield, on the PC version? Since it has gone M.I.A. from the specific cabinet that is supposed to have it for us not playing on consoles. I want to complete my set, hehe.

Modifié par Neil Decurio, 21 novembre 2009 - 04:42 .

[a p o c 447]

My hopes for Return to Ostagar are that it'll be a retaking of the fortress, killing everything and driving the darkspawn out and once that is done we'll recover the bodies or armour of both Duncan and Cailan and give them a sad but respectful send off, maybe returning Cailans remains to Denerim for a royal burial (much like the fallen heroes funeral pyre ending) and a quiet emotional vader-esque sendoff with your character, alistair and riordan burning duncans remains and saying the grey warden motto or something.



After Ostagars retaking i'd hope that Ostagar becomes a fort under your command and becomes a base like Arl Eamons place in denerim and your party camp...I personally think it'd be very cool if you got a blacksmith there (maybe wade heh) and if you pay like 90 gold he'll deck "your" men (the troops that aide in its retaking) with armour of your choice and that that armour is free for all your companions and your character to have too, only it'd be more personalized for you and companions (griffon standard). heh i don't know if it's possible but i'd love it that if everytime you went into the wilds beyond the gate it'd be a kinda horde mode, so that even if you totally complete the game you can go to Ostagar fortress that YOU command and continuously fight against the horde thats still pouring fourth from the korcari wilds...heh put Sten as a captain watching over heavy infantry being trained, Leliana archers, Wynne in the hospice area healing, your mubari hound by the pen, Oghren getting drunk at the dining table in the ruin with Zevran, Alistair (if he's about) in Cailans old tent, Morrigan (if she's about) will be chilling out where the mages where practicing at the start of the game, your tent will be Logains one heh...oh and it'd be cool if Bodahn and Sandal were where the armourer originally was and your treatie emissaries, blackstone irregular etc contacts where all in there too...gah got a bit carried away sorry...but that would be my hope for this new content. High hopes i know but after the awesome ride that's gone before, Bioware, you've set the expectation and bar pretty high, thanks by the way for what you've done so far, it's excellent and i just want more.

[Grailll]

These 5-15 dollar joyfest addons are crap. I do not understand what metrics these devs are using thinking folks like myself will pay (which i wont) for things like this.

The game was incredibly great, 8 out of 10 stars, sure the devs pooched it at times ingame with idiotic choices to convos or no choices at all, but i digress..........the addons are bs at best and for those of us that purchased the game legally, a veritable slap in the face. separating collectors from regular buyers is one thing, this is assnine.

If and when they release a full size dragonage 2 i may consider buying it, but these micro bs transactions are just that, total fail.

[Neil Decurio]

I want a memorial statue of Duncan at my Warden's Keep. (That and for the doors to re-open so I can go back inside.. in a future expansion/DLC.) PS: Grailll, I will respect your opinion--but will you respect mine, that I don't think any of the current DLC was fail in terms of entertainment versus cost and are eagerly awaiting this DLC to give it a go?

Modifié par Neil Decurio, 21 novembre 2009 - 05:05 .

[Wishpig]

I sure hope Alistar has some good input and plays an important role in this DLC (although he shouldnt' be forced on anyone)

[Frans-Laurens]

yeah - sorry but we just paid over $100, paying another 5 for only 60 mins is not good enough. Warden Keep was a rip off.

[Ariella]

Raxtoren wrote...

No, its a SRPG.  and Tales of Vesperia was longer then DAO also, put all the content in their game, no cheap DLC charging afterwards at launch day.

As much as I liked Tales, it's a totally different game. Absolutely no Player character customization in the game, linear storyline and one ending. Apples and oranges in other words.

As for an expansion. I'd bet money that Bioware will release one based on certain things said at end of game.

Considering that Dragon Age has been out for 17 days in the US, I don't understand why the screaming about such things. Though personally, I'd like to see a way just to subscribe to the DLC (ie pay a blanket fee for a year and get everythihng that comes out) though I'm not sure how realistic that would be.

But since Steve Valentine will probably be back as Alistair... sign me up!

[a p o c 447]

Grailll wrote...

These 5-15 dollar joyfest addons are crap.

Well I personally feel like I got far more than my moneys worth with this game and because it's so good we demand of Bioware that they give us more...and in my eyes that's either
-waiting an agonizingly long couple or more years for the epic sequel (that will hopefully be coming anyway).
- waiting for them to put together a load of additional content together (like 10+ hours worth) to be released like the fallout and gta packs that you can buy in shops or download at a bulk price.
-or to get each bit as it's done and keep you in the dragonage world without a long break...and yeah in the long run it'll probably cost a bit more but hell, i think Bioware has made an awesome game and you tight folk that think they're "ripping" you off, well i don't agree and think you all need go play another game and recall how lacking of content "other" games are that you payed the same price for.

Now for the love of this awesome game and great respect to bioware can we please drop this cost argument and get back to askin' questions about the new content.

Umm i realize my previous post doesn't really have questions and was more just what i was hoping for...so here's some questions.

1: After the quest is complete will Ostagar become a base/camp like arl eamons estate in denerim was and like your party camp?
2: After reclaiming Ostagar can we travel into the korcari wilds and could it be like a horde mode?

peace.

[Wild Maiden]

Main game - $50

Stone Prisoner DLC - $15

Warden's Keep DLC - $7

Return to Ostagar DLC - $5

Still waiting on major bug fixes for a game I paid $77 for - Priceless.

[SBJ]

Considdering the amount of trouble I have with Stone Prisoner and Warden's Keep due to the "DA:O content updater" always shutting down, I doubt I'll buy any further content until that dependance has been removed, or replaced with somethging that does NOT rely on beeing connected.

[xcess]

Wild Maiden wrote...

Main game - $50
Stone Prisoner DLC - $15
Warden's Keep DLC - $7
Return to Ostagar DLC - $5
Still waiting on major bug fixes for a game I paid $77 for - Priceless.

LIES - You cannot pay for "Return to Ostagar DLC" yet. So it isn't $77

I don't experiecve bugs, ..  I wonder: what is to fix?

[Mobuis]

would like to know when it will be release to download for the pc?

[nisallik]

Mobuis wrote...

would like to know when it will be release to download for the pc?

Not a set date yet... sometime around the holiday season is all we know so far.

[TheMadCat]

Wild Maiden wrote...

Main game - $50
Stone Prisoner DLC - $15
Warden's Keep DLC - $7
Return to Ostagar DLC - $5
Still waiting on major bug fixes for a game I paid $77 for - Priceless.

Either you got seriously suckered or you're adding on Stone Prisoner when you shouldn't be.

[Charles Barnett]

I dunno for $5 an hour isn't to bad, I use the pause button a lot so it might take me longer. I find on the PC that you have to be quite a tactical player to keep from getting your but handed to you repeatedly on normal difficulty. I have bought Warden's Keep but haven't made it there yet, it took me a long time to go and get Shale because the story just seemed to keep making me want to follow it to see where it was going next, it was hard to break off from it to go to a village.

[Rayne Myria Solo]

Wild Maiden wrote...

Main game - $50
Stone Prisoner DLC - $15
Warden's Keep DLC - $7
Return to Ostagar DLC - $5
Still waiting on major bug fixes for a game I paid $77 for - Priceless.

Let's see, if you bought a new copy, Stone Prisoner was free, you can't buy Return to Ostagar yet, so that's 20 bucks I can take off..so..57.

There, fixed that for you.