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[Seeker341]

I have no problem with purchasing good DLC. What I am concerned about, however is that Bioware will opt to go for cheap and easy DLC (rehashes of areas, item giveaways and all that) and not the harder to make story-driven questline DLC. Five dollars doesn't sound like much, but that just for revisiting an old area and some loot? I hope there's more to it, but if a new player can finish it in an hour, I'm not holding my hopes up.

[rjstre]

You know what? I have played WoW for a little over 4 years and i have to say, $5 for some DLC even if it was just for a couple peices of phat lewts is well worth it just fo the fact that bioware actually responds to our comments. Blizz fails whens the MMO version of this coming out? =)

[Zweijsters]

A question about the DLC (which the thread was used for at first)



Will the 'survivor' be a new party member? Or just a questgiver. I figure the latter since it probably would have been announced more explicitly otherwise, but it's one of the strongest aspects of the game. And I love Shale.

[am_victory]

First day buy for me, too. My only gripe, if you will, is that I've already finished one play-through. I'm hoping it comes out soon enough that I can use the items :-p Regardless, I'm looking forward to the additional lore :-)

[Rexxean]

rjstre wrote...

You know what? I have played WoW for a little over 4 years and i have to say, $5 for some DLC even if it was just for a couple peices of phat lewts is well worth it just fo the fact that bioware actually responds to our comments. Blizz fails whens the MMO version of this coming out? =)

It figuers wow fan, hehehe yeah i bet you would pay 5$ for a couple new loots, just like alot of the mmo community will pay for gold, leveling, and aa's heheh your the perfect bizzard/eq user. GL

[beelzabubba]

This is great news for me. This was my first Bioware game and I loved every second of it. Christmas in Ostagar FTW! I have downloaded some of your previous work because I had such a good time, and I will be preordering your future work as well.

Modifié par beelzabubba, 24 novembre 2009 - 04:53 .

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SithLordExarKun wrote...

Well would you rather spend $5 on some expensive coffee you can down in a few minutes or a DLC which you can essentially replay over and over?

I would indeed spend my ~3€  on something different than a DLC that could be played once, maybe twice, before I've explored and done everything there is to do. I would do so just for the principle.

[CChocobo]

the survivor can only be Duncan. He did not die in battle, everyone knows his beard deflected the axe. Duncan's beard is made out of starmetal

Well if we don't get his armor i really hope they put his beard in as the survivor, so we can recruit the beard as a companion. Females can romance the beard, and males can put it on once they get 100% approval. Definitely worth the $5

[Deathstyk85]

Zweijsters wrote...

A question about the DLC (which the thread was used for at first)

Will the 'survivor' be a new party member? Or just a questgiver. I figure the latter since it probably would have been announced more explicitly otherwise, but it's one of the strongest aspects of the game. And I love Shale.

one of the devs said that the survivor will not be a new companion. so most likely just a quest giver that you find in the new "bann loren's" territory. he tells you some stuff, then you go back to ostagar and kick some darkspawn tookus, and get some snazzy looking gear.

[garmar]

I'll just wait till it goes on on utorrent

[Kail Ashton]

Well nice to see this got less whiney, as for Duncan's possible survival: one the one hand i would like him to return as we spent so little time with him and he was pretty cool on the other hand his being dead was rather integral to Alistar's plot threwout the game and the fact you're the leader of the wardens now, if Duncan returned alive it'd just put you back to being a grunt instead of a blossoming hero and leader out of necesity & impending doom

If anything i'd hope they find the remains of Duncan or sumth'n just to give Alister the peace of mind he needs and/or if they conntinue the game after the blight THEN bring Duncan back since at that point we'd be equals rather then grunt & stoic leader

On that note i think my team for this DLC will be: My charecter(obviously lol), Alister, Wynne & someone who wouldn't laugh at poor Alister's inevitible crying i suppose lol (so cross morigan, sten, shale, oghren)  Lelianya by default then

Modifié par Kail Ashton, 24 novembre 2009 - 05:23 .

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ExGym wrote...

Daemonhorde wrote...

I'm waiting for a review... If the DLC is half assed and not the least challenging I'm not wasting my money. I played well into 100 hours and If it's just a repeat, I can live without it.

That said I agree with someone who posted the thing about looking into item balance. Some items are crap pure crap. You waste over a hour on a hard quest only to be rewarded with 1g and some 10% resistance item. Then you have the DLC were you get extremly useful items that you never have to replace.

Take Bergen's honor? Why would you want to replace it on your tank ever? or the staff from wardens? The only flaw this game has to be honest is in the economy and item department. I feel like the ydidn't put the time in to actually make you be able to buy things. Took me forever to get the belt from tower of magi. And If you would have bought recipies etc you would never generate the income to get the,

If they made a economy DLC that rebalanced and reworked some quests I buy it in a instance. The game is way to fun to be broken by stupid small things.

I agree. Or they could make some good drops instead.

Indeed, it sucks that many of the best items are the ones you start the game with (the blood dragon armor for instance, and the worst is that it looks horrible), or the ones found in DLC areas. These loot heavy DLC should at least make some other parts of the game harder in order to keep things interesting, instead of feeling like paid cheat codes.

Concerning the DLC itself, I don't pay 5$ for coffee, and know no one who does, so I guess I still have one question:

Are more ambitious DLC or expansion planned (some new quests and story arc, not just a few areas of dungeon crawl)? Like the GTA4 ones?

[atomaweapon]

Personally, I'd like to add that I bought Warden's Keep, and literally took me an hour. It did add some nice elements and backstory, but if I had to do it again, I wouldn't purchase it.



I can see both sides of the coin, from the devs perspective it takes time to develop, code, craft, record voice over, etc. And the need to recoup investment makes sense.



But from a gamers perspective this really isn't worth my time or money I'd say. I mean if you figure Warden's Keep and this DLC equals about $13 bucks, possibly add in the value of the stone prisoner at $15 bucks and you have the cost of a full fledged expansion. As it stands the current DLC combined adds a whopping 3 hours of gameplay at the cost of 28 bucks. That is the cost of a full 20 hour expansion.



Mask of the Betrayer added about 30 hours for me and cost me that much. Along with great music, a totally imersive storyline and new characters. We can sit and compare the $5 cost to hamburgers, skittles, a movie ticket, a music cd - anything really, it's not really the price of the DLC, but the perceived value. For me it's not worth 30 bucks for 3 hours of gameplay.



I do love the universe and the gamer part of me says pump these things out, but the practial side says either put out a meatier 3 to 5 hour DLC for 5 to 7 bucks or just wait 6 months for a full fledged expansion.



As it stands now I just feel nickel and dimed.

[Brimleydower]

DLC with more substance, please! And let us inside the glorified house they're passing off as a Keep. Lawn-squatting is not the domain of the heroic!

[Rexxean]

atomaweapon wrote...

Personally, I'd like to add that I bought Warden's Keep, and literally took me an hour. It did add some nice elements and backstory, but if I had to do it again, I wouldn't purchase it.

I can see both sides of the coin, from the devs perspective it takes time to develop, code, craft, record voice over, etc. And the need to recoup investment makes sense.

But from a gamers perspective this really isn't worth my time or money I'd say. I mean if you figure Warden's Keep and this DLC equals about $13 bucks, possibly add in the value of the stone prisoner at $15 bucks and you have the cost of a full fledged expansion. As it stands the current DLC combined adds a whopping 3 hours of gameplay at the cost of 28 bucks. That is the cost of a full 20 hour expansion.

Mask of the Betrayer added about 30 hours for me and cost me that much. Along with great music, a totally imersive storyline and new characters. We can sit and compare the $5 cost to hamburgers, skittles, a movie ticket, a music cd - anything really, it's not really the price of the DLC, but the perceived value. For me it's not worth 30 bucks for 3 hours of gameplay.

I do love the universe and the gamer part of me says pump these things out, but the practial side says either put out a meatier 3 to 5 hour DLC for 5 to 7 bucks or just wait 6 months for a full fledged expansion.

As it stands now I just feel nickel and dimed.

ATOMAWEAPON is the Goddess of Reason in this madness,, IMHO>!

[Maggilein]

5$ looks less for buying it, but if 100k buys it, we are talking about 500k $, and this is very much for a few weeks of work, i like to have a company which will bring me this money for this time.

ok, i dont know, how many people work there and how long, but I thing, for 1 or 2 $ many people would buy it and bioware will also reach 500k $.

so make 2 DLCs and try out, which one bring more money, if one is expensive and the other is not.

Wardens Keep was expensive and i won´t purchase it again, if i had the choice. and i won´t buy the next DLC with one hour gameplay for 5 $ oder maybe 5€, while i´m from germany and its even more expensive here^^



and our coffee here cost only about 1 or 2 $

[phordicus]

value be damned. let's get better content than a one-use-only dungeon crawl.

[Ancastna]

I'm not complaining. Not bad value and more game to play.

Modifié par Ancastna, 24 novembre 2009 - 09:42 .

[aries1001]

Are there any plans at all to put the DLC up on Steam? or Direct 2 Drive? including, but not limited to, the Return to Ostagar DLC? As I recall, Bethesda did this with the DLC for Fallout 3 and Oblivion...

[Armakoy]

Still no word on release day for this? Buying it without a doubt. You all know this game rules!

[Naarmutin]

I want my zombie kitten!

Modifié par Naarmutin, 24 novembre 2009 - 11:35 .

[DEADP0OL]

will it have achievements or trophys on 360 or ps3? new companions would be nice too but what about a second chance at getting leliana?

[SithLordExarKun]

Rexxean wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Well would you rather spend $5 on some expensive coffee you can down in a few minutes or a DLC which you can essentially replay over and over?

Also i'm tired of 5$ coffee comparision , If you pay 5$ for a cup of coffee you are a moron, A fiscal moron at that no matter what your income level. Same applies to buying. waiting, ancipating and downloading a 15 min run though if you know what your doing ... It's the same deal think about it. Why are there 5$ coffee cups out there because there is enough morons to buy into.

Same will be with DLC you let bioware get away with low content to value DLC you will always get low content to value.

Also  maybe peple who disagree in any way with a bioware should start  whiners club, Even those of you with bug problems you can fit into the catagory to because if you disagree with something bioware is doing you are a whiner Sir. According to DOA is god ppl crowd we should just kiss the ground that it is availble..No Sir I hold ppl accountable regauldess if they make something i like it does not mean they get a free pass on other actions..


Yes i loved the game and it is a Great value for the money, one the best RPG to date imho, but i don't then just turn my brain off and take anything bioware throws at me.



Anyways this is becoming like beating a dead horse but our choices do matter and will effect the content and outcome of DLC. That a simple fact that cannot be ignored, as long as it is profitable for then which it should be there will be DLC. And to the other side I'm not Anit DLC i bought WK and was dissapionted for $7.48 inc it sucked ..Do a opnion poll on value ..I just hoped that RTO DLC would be the true judging stone DLC content in the future and if 30min is it well DLC for this gamer is pointless.

I'll wait for Mass Effect 2 or The Witcher 2 which is a trully adult RPG. Notation, so adult that even with 17+ rating they had to cut out text and nudity for North American Version of the Witcher 1  but there is the Directiors cut that can be download and applied and restore it to full version on there website. Sorry not a plug for the witcher but RPG in gerneral,, its amazing how ppl say DOA is so graphic, The Witcher Enhanced Edition is twice as adult. with Directors patch applied as the game was inteded and it can be bought for 19.99 ..so anyone who is bored and waiting on Mass effect 2 like i am Try that game and apply the patches it definatly was worthy of it's 2007 RPG of the year award./

I guess you stress a valid point regarding the coffee analogy, its like comparing apples to oranges, bodybuilders to powerlifters...



Honestly is this DLC going to be incredibly short like wardens keep? I wouldn't mind waiting a little longer for some quality DLC(BDTS in ME was pretty good IMO) which would be significantly longer than both DLC;s for DAO and have a little more depth to it.

Not that its importanant but regarding the 5 buck coffee, well it is that expensive in the country i live in and there are alot of people who pay for that kind of drink(its not worth it so i dont bother buying).

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 24 novembre 2009 - 12:13 .

[LadyDrusilla]

I've read all 30 pages of this thread, and I hope 90% of the posters die horrifically.

I am dissapointed that it is only one hour, but one more hour of DAO for five dollars is worth it, in my opinion. It may not be in yours, that does not mean either of our opinions are invalid or that Bioware is doing something wrong.

Modifié par LadyDrusilla, 24 novembre 2009 - 02:21 .

[Raint]

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