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[TAJ4Life]

I think 400points is well worth it I will be getting the DLC I hope Bioware release expansions or bigger DLC for this game wouldn't mind paying 800 for DLC that lasts 2hrs at least or more with more content etc.

[The Angry One]

Druscylla wrote...

So if EA is so evil they wouldn't have refunded you.

I was a bit sad to learn that the big feature is the new set of warrior armor. Alistair looks tricked out and I am resigned to non bling leathers. Aw well. I still wish they'd hurry up and let me give them my money for more game.

A new set of warrior armour that's already in the game anyway... available to modders at least.
It's Mehrunes' Razor all over again!

[Sferzar]

The Angry One wrote...

Druscylla wrote...

So if EA is so evil they wouldn't have refunded you.

I was a bit sad to learn that the big feature is the new set of warrior armor. Alistair looks tricked out and I am resigned to non bling leathers. Aw well. I still wish they'd hurry up and let me give them my money for more game.

A new set of warrior armour that's already in the game anyway... available to modders at least.
It's Mehrunes' Razor all over again!

Haha, no kidding!

[Valcutio]

$2.50 per hour of content. That's how it should be IMO based on previous games I've played. I'm a bit confused on the purpose of releasing such tiny downloads besides to nickle and dime us. I'd much prefer more time spent on these DLCs and having a bigger price tag. I'll buy the content, only because I love the game but I'm not under the impression that it's a good deal.

[The Angry One]

It's entirely EA's influence, I suspect.

BioWare never pulled this kind of nonsense before (hell, Mass Effect's Bring Down the Sky on the PC was free).

[dwiz316]

[quote]Well i don't care i'm not buying dlc's i believe they are a corrupt business but will buy expansion.[/quote]

Putting out a product for money is not corrupt, no matter how you feel about it. To call it corrupt is pretty darn extreme.
[/quote]

Putting out a product for money is not corrupt, but in some instances it seems game developers put out an unfinished product and charge u for the rest of it. $60 bucks is a lot to pay for a game, tack on 10 dollars here, 5 dollars here, 7 dollars here, and before u no it u have paid $80+ and for what? I have nothing against this expansion, but when a racing game (burnout paradise) wants to charge u 10 bucks so u can play multiplayer offline, when every racing game sense nintendo has come equipped with this feature at no extra cost? Things like that seem to be "corrupt". And i use that example because burnout is an EA game aswell.

Im a little up in the air about the dlc for DAO atm... 1 extra suit of armor and a few new scenes hardly seems worth it, although if u think about it, scenes may have some variations on playthroughs. A lot of subteties make this game a very in depth experience. After 4 playthroughs im still shocked to discover new things and make connections i was previously oblivious to. However, does that justify me paying 12 extra bucks on top of the original 60?

[Kungpaoshizi]

What's that, the new DLC will be called "The Land of 4000 Dragons: A Fortnight"???

[Vertias Martis]

so when does it actually come out? stupid email got me all excited so i open the game and its just a dagger that downloads.

[Bryy_Miller]

The Angry One wrote...

It's entirely EA's influence, I suspect.

Except BioWare said it is not.

[Merithea]

Pretty much been reading a lot of complaining about time vs money and frankly, considering the fact that playing the game more than once with the various options available...the point becomes moot. I will get the DLC, and future ones, and be happy about them. Constructive criticism is good, whining is bad. Don't want it, don't get it. Some of us put value on the enjoyment of the game, instead of how long it takes to finish. Side tracked myself...BioWare, keep up the good work, put out the good stuff, and folks like myself will be happy to grab it first chance.

[HighlandBerserkr]

I never have a problem buying DLC for a game i love, it extends its lifespan, i love DLC.

[Darth_Trethon]

There's a great potential for positive and for negative reactions here. They have to understand that most gamers would rather pay a couple bucks more for quality than less for something that leaves them disappointed. I don't know about you but not being able to go back inside the Warden fortress left a fairly bad impression on me. They have to get away from that sort of thing. Then there's detail amount that can greatly enrich the experience.....we all remember where the King's tent and Loghain's tent was so even if the tents are torn down there should be something interesting to find there.

[taliefer]

the current DLC is overpriced for the amount of content it provides imo. its not that 5 dollars is a vast sum of money. its about the value of that dollar.



at the rate they are going, by the time they add enough DLC to equal the amount of content that normally comes with a typical expansion, you are going to be paying WELL past the price point of said expansion.



now obviously they make games to make money, so i dont think this is "Evil bioware", i just think its a dramatically more efficient way for them to make money than the old model of just doing expansions. more efficient for the company = less value for the dollar for their consumers.



obviously some people may consider 5 bucks for an extra hour of a good game worth it, but tahts up to each individual~

[Worrow]

taliefer wrote...
...at the rate they are going, by the time they add enough DLC to equal the amount of content that normally comes with a typical expansion, you are going to be paying WELL past the price point of said expansion...

Agree.  I always wonder how much would Bioware(EA) charge for a lengthly content... 

[Wild Maiden]

taliefer wrote...
at the rate they are going, by the time they add enough DLC to equal the amount of content that normally comes with a typical expansion, you are going to be paying WELL past the price point of said expansion.

Exactly.  That's how the nickel-and-dime strategy works. They are already past the price point of a typical expansion.  It would cost you $27 to purchase the 3 DLC packs that have been released or announced already.  $27... is there anybody who would pay that much for a bundle containing The Stone Prisoner, Warden's Keep, and Return to Ostagar?  When you add it up it's very obvious that the pricing of the DLC isn't reasonable.  The DLC model, which works fairly well apparently, takes advantage of fans who fall into the practice of thinking "$5? I pay more for a sandwich!" and don't consider the big picture.

In other words, the producers get more money while the fans get less content.  Yes, of course we have the option to not buy it, but the fact remains that WE, the fans, are being ripped off through a deceptive business practice that does NOT benefit us.

There seems to be two distinct groups of people with regards to the way Bioware has been doing DLC with Dragon Age: those who hate it and those who don't mind it.  There doesn't seem to be a lot of people who are thrilled by the prices, content, delivery mechanism, in game advertising, etc.  In other words, this community has pretty much reached a consensus that the DLC aspect of Dragon Age could be better.

Why are so many people content with what is at best a mediocre DLC component?  Shouldn't we expect more from a company like Bioware?

[Raint]

thats the point they dont release a new DLC every day, this is like $5 the first time, then might be the same but 2 months later? where is the problem?, and yes in overall it might be $30 + - but not all at once, save some cash maybe? if someone have a problem with this then their income must sux

[Darth_Trethon]

The Stone Prisoner was rightly overpriced IMO since nobody should ever have to buy it unless they try to rob BioWare by purchasing a used copy of the game. The Warde's Keep was fun and had a good story but not being able to go back in was an enormous failure....nonetheless I thought it was worth the 7 USD. As for Return to Ostagar.....time will tell....it sounds good but its duration and story as well as other potential let-downs are in the air.

[AdrianC25]

if you dont want to pay extra money for extra content then dont ... pretty ez imo. BUT if your willing to pay a little bit of money for a quality publisher made add on then by all means buy it. But lets get real here kids there is no reason this should be free and you are not forced to purchase this by any means.



There is nothing wrong about any of this, and i for one am glad im being given the option to toss over $5 to continue to play more of this game which im totally down with. better then waiting a year for a possible expansion.



GO GO more add ons as long as they are good i have no complaints

[TearsoftheForest]

Will there be a good amount of gold to loot there?

[gammle]

AdrianC25 wrote...

if you dont want to pay extra money for extra content then dont ... pretty ez imo. BUT if your willing to pay a little bit of money for a quality publisher made add on then by all means buy it. But lets get real here kids there is no reason this should be free and you are not forced to purchase this by any means.

There is nothing wrong about any of this, and i for one am glad im being given the option to toss over $5 to continue to play more of this game which im totally down with. better then waiting a year for a possible expansion.

GO GO more add ons as long as they are good i have no complaints

So agree and i will get them all all dlc's that will be made..and relesed i will get them no mater what the cost is..just cant wait on a new game true whit new areas..

[Travadonna]

Expanding on a epic game such as DA is always a good thing for me, im just hoping for DLC that is the size of shivering isles..

[Travadonna]

All dlc for this game is a plus in my book i will get them all no matter the cost and if it supports new achievments or not......this game is to good to let pass

[KalosCast]

Darkest Dreamer wrote...

Pseudo310 wrote...

I paid $5 for lunch at McDonald's and that only lasted fifteen minutes. The price is *fine.*

But that food stays in your system for an entire eight hours while offering life sustaining nutrients!

Not if it's McDonald's

[Targonis1]

I don't think people are complaining about DLC as much as how much said DLC costs based on how long it takes to get through the content. That is the issue at hand.



So, three questions remain to be answered:

When will it come out?



How much content is there in it? Is it just one small building worth, or will it be multiple areas(Stone prisoner), and will there be more than just the raw content(new features and such)?



How much will it cost?







The game is great, I really feel that the people working at Bioware have done well(though the romances are a bit tame IMO).



Along with Ostagar, it would be nice to go back into other areas that have been wiped out by the Darkspawn going forward. More Deep Roads content since there is a LOT of room down there to explore given the chance.

[Rostas7]

jableskage wrote...

Rob Bartel wrote...

Will there be future content available for less than $5? Yes and there will be future content available for more than $5 as well.

The specific release dates are still in flux and are dependent on final testing and certification. Current projections are for sometime in December.

As for the success of the Neverwinter Nights premium module program, it's something I'm very proud of. It proved that it could be done and gave us a lot of experience in doing this kind of thing. Was it a financial success? Well, if you juggle the math just right and squint your eyes a bit, you can make the argument that it hit the break-even point. =o) To be clear, however, that program's lack of profitability had very little to do with the size or scope of the content. The key determining factor was that we only launched it once the game was already three years old. By having PRC available at time of Dragon Age: Origin's launch and by following up in a timely fashion with a wide variety of content at different price points, we hope to be a lot more successful this time around. We're not profitable yet as we have a large infrastructure investment to recoup first (trust me, building a suitable framework for PRC doesn't come cheap), but I think we're on track.

Well, thanks for reading and for being so patient with me, everyone. This thread's getting a little long in the tooth and newcomers are no longer reading it from the start, so I think this will be my final post here. Tomorrow, I'll be back at work on some other upcoming content but I'll see if I can poke in on the forums every now and then to help out.

Regardless, thanks for playing Dragon Age and I look forward to seeing your impressions of Return to Ostagar when it's finally released. Please feel free to copy and paste my answers into other threads as similar questions come up between now and the module's release.

For Ferelden,
Rob

good to see dedication to the fans by quitting on page 15... /end sarcasm

It's just his way of saying "Hey,I'm sick of all the "Fail to price and spice" DLC comments ,my interest balloon has just popped,I'll return when we'll get the cash,HOAAAH!!". *insert lame joke here-The name should rather be Return to Costagar * . Nevermind,the DLC is welcome but I also expect a bit of a surprise cake. Not like in Portal,damn,I was so dissapointed about the cake.I'll buy it,play it ,and then maybe complain about it.That's just the most interesting part isn't it?  Play'n and complainin' ,get it? ....oh nevermind.