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Titius.Vibius

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So when will this DLC come out? No date yet?

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sonlockdon

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you need to be patiant thats why these forums were made to talk about it to waist time and ask questions till we get a response or it is posted .



it is quit ovious that we dont know.

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sonlockdon wrote...

you need to be patiant thats why these forums were made to talk about it to waist time and ask questions till we get a response or it is posted .

it is quit ovious that we dont know.


It's not obvious that we don't know because there's over 60 pages of worthless crap including this post that has no information about the DLC whatsoever.

By the way, learn to spell.

There was a posted release date on another website that said, cryptically, "December 2009" and the Bioware website's "holiday season" release date means somewhere between now and December 24th. Exact date unknown on account of the DLC is undergoing testing (so how long until we get it depends on how many bugs they find/fix).

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Enchantment?

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Duncan can't be alive. It specifically says in the codex that he died at Ostagar. I don't see Bioware bringing him back to life and changing the codex after the fact. Not to mention Zepheera's very good point about it completely changing Alistair's dialog and motivations, and messing with the PC being in charge. I just can't see Duncan letting the newest Gray Warden stay in charge if he's brought back to life.



I do wish they would at least give us an estimated time frame though. It's been 21 days since the original announcement. If it's coming out sometime this month they should know by now roughly when they plan to release it. My only hope is that for the next DLC they don't tell us a month ahead of time. All that they've accomplished by announcing it will be released at some point during the holiday season (which lasts till the New Year by the way) with no updates is getting people to snipe at each other over what will be in it, when it will be out, and whether it will be worth the money, as evidenced by this thread.

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jennamarae wrote...

Duncan can't be alive. It specifically says in the codex that he died at Ostagar. I don't see Bioware bringing him back to life and changing the codex after the fact. Not to mention Zepheera's very good point about it completely changing Alistair's dialog and motivations, and messing with the PC being in charge. I just can't see Duncan letting the newest Gray Warden stay in charge if he's brought back to life.

I do wish they would at least give us an estimated time frame though. It's been 21 days since the original announcement. If it's coming out sometime this month they should know by now roughly when they plan to release it. My only hope is that for the next DLC they don't tell us a month ahead of time. All that they've accomplished by announcing it will be released at some point during the holiday season (which lasts till the New Year by the way) with no updates is getting people to snipe at each other over what will be in it, when it will be out, and whether it will be worth the money, as evidenced by this thread.


Remember gandalf dying in lord of the rings?

Ever heard of comic book deaths?

Maybe someone researched a ressurection spell or duncan is back as a meat puppet of some blood mage?

Duncan could be chuck norris and is only resting.

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jennamarae wrote...
All that they've accomplished...is getting people to snipe at each other...

But that's exactly what they want! If we're busy sniping at each other that means we're less likely to snipe at them. A classic divide-and-conquer strategy. ;)

Modifié par Pseron Wyrd, 11 décembre 2009 - 02:21 .


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TastyLaksa wrote...
Remember gandalf dying in lord of the rings?

Ever heard of comic book deaths?

Maybe someone researched a ressurection spell or duncan is back as a meat puppet of some blood mage?

Duncan could be chuck norris and is only resting.


That would be a cool idea and can create more interest on this game. A legendary grey warden once thought to be dead, only to return as Chuck Norris err to turn the tide of the battle.

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Or reanimated as the Abonimation Duncan ala Warden's Keep.  Duncan's will to survive at all costs to stop the Blight led to him accepting an offer from a Desire Demon...Image IPB

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people are so abrassive and deffensive on these forums,

and yes it is obvious[happy] because theres at least 2-3 people asking the same question with no real date response.

by the way, learn to lighten up a bit huh.

Modifié par sonlockdon, 11 décembre 2009 - 03:03 .


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jennamarae

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TastyLaksa wrote...
Remember gandalf dying in lord of the rings?


Yeah, but he had magic. Duncan doesn't.

Duncan could be chuck norris and is only resting.


You may have a point there, if only because I laughed at that one. :lol:

Pseron Wyrd wrote...
But that's exactly what they want! If
we're busy sniping at each other that means we're less likely to snipe
at them. A classic divide-and-conquer strategy. ;)


Very true. Aside from a few minor annoyances that I can ignore till they patch the XBOX version, I personally don't have anything to really snipe at them for. Except not giving an update or an actual release date that is.

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jennamarae wrote...
Duncan can't be alive. It specifically says in the codex that he died at Ostagar. I don't see Bioware bringing him back to life and changing the codex after the fact.

David Gaider has said that the Codex contains deliberately faulty information so as to replicate a realistic word-of-mouth history where the "facts" are delivered through the bias and perspective of those giving them.  Considering that, it would make sense for the Codex to say he was dead because certainly he is perceived to have died, even though nobody saw the corpse.  

I don't know if I like the idea of Duncan coming back, but the Codex certainly does not rule it out.

Edit: You're right about them not changing the codex after the fact however, they basically said in another thread that they won't be making any effort to correct inconsistencies in the backstory even if the "we made the codex wrong on purpose" idea doesn't explain it.

Modifié par Wild Maiden, 11 décembre 2009 - 03:31 .


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will thier ever be online gameplay?

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It doesn't sound like it, and apparently a lot of the players around here are SUPER opposed to adding it. Why? Beats the hell out of me. There certainly has been no announcements regarding online play, but personally I think adding a Never Winter Nights style multiplayer option would be a logical thing to include in a future expansion down the line.

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If Duncan is alive and try to take the leadership as some ppl posted here ill teach him a lesson in pain as i did with another party member that tried to take the leadership from me(no spoilers)and btw except Alistair and maybe Wynne the other party members joined me not the grey wardens

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Duncan could always resign leadership to you... He didn't strike me as the power hungry type.

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As for me, personally, this is the best game I ever played. I jumped on my bed for several minutes when I got the e-mail about this DLC coming. Now I can cross my fingers and hope there will be a return to Highever too. Can't wait can't wait. YAY

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I fail to see the point of that much excitement Bioware can do better i hope all this delay has something to do with the quality of rtO btw you should read some of the earlier posts of Wild Maiden he made a very credible argument about dlc,ill i have to say is dont be blindfolded ppl dont support mediocre jobs.

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UryuuIshida wrote...

I fail to see the point of that much excitement Bioware can do better i hope all this delay has something to do with the quality of rtO btw you should read some of the earlier posts of Wild Maiden he made a very credible argument about dlc,ill i have to say is dont be blindfolded ppl dont support mediocre jobs.




Why would you think it is delayed? They said, this holiday season. It is still the holiday season and will remain so for a few weeks. I am sure they have a target date they are shooting for but just dont want to release that info because if they somehow had to miss it by a few days the moaning and wailing from the forums could be heard on the far side of the internet.

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UryuuIshida wrote...

If Duncan is alive and try to take the leadership as some ppl posted here ill teach him a lesson in pain as i did with another party member that tried to take the leadership from me(no spoilers)and btw except Alistair and maybe Wynne the other party members joined me not the grey wardens


A duel perhaps with only a longsword and no poultices, that would be fun!

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UryuuIshida

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Titius.Vibius wrote...

UryuuIshida wrote...

If Duncan is alive and try to take the leadership as some ppl posted here ill teach him a lesson in pain as i did with another party member that tried to take the leadership from me(no spoilers)and btw except Alistair and maybe Wynne the other party members joined me not the grey wardens


A duel perhaps with only a longsword and no poultices, that would be fun!

If we have this duel i will tell Duncan one of my favorite Star Wars lines The last time we fought i was but a learner NOW i am the master

Modifié par UryuuIshida, 11 décembre 2009 - 04:55 .


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BioWare, will there be anymore surprises that will come with Return to Ostagar? I have a gut feeling that this excitement will just last for like 30 minutes.

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Gunru wrote...

will thier ever be online gameplay?


Hopefully not.

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Seriously this DLC has got to be way longer than 60 mins. I played wardens keep in about 45 mins and was really disappointed in the length and depth of the content itself. I will admit that i love this game and think it's one of the best I've played but seriously - 60mins?

The DLC needs to be way longer. I would expect at least 3 hours of Gameplay, unique items and armour too. The other thing about RPG's is why do they always overlook certain weapon types like Flail, two handed spears, spear and shield combo etc. I find that really annoying. The characters would also look better in cloaks/hoods etc. It's a lot of work sure but it would still be cool. animations for searching corpses should also be in.

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TastyLaksa wrote...

Maybe someone researched a ressurection spell or duncan is back as a meat puppet of some blood mage?


According to the rules of magic, ressurection spells are not possible.  Dead is dead.  Couldn't see them violating that in something that has as little playtime as this is supposed to have.

Don't think dead things can be possessed either.  Animated, yes, possessed, no.